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Elphion (talk) 19:23, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Welcome!

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[edit] King Lopez

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Hello take a look at your edit It looks like you blanked a large section of the page. Your edit is in yellow. Mine is in green. If you are improving the artical it is ok. King Lopez Contribs 07:57, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok I see now. Sorry for the confustion. King Lopez Contribs 08:06, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] White Witch

Well unsourced speculation is not a good thing on Wikipedia, I removed the Turkish example because it was unsourced speculation, but also because for some reason I assumed the pronunciation of the Turkish word was [tsadɯ] (which would be virtually nothing like the pronunciation of Janis and would sound more like sadu to speakers of English) but I see that Turkish alphabet says c represents the same sound as English j. However, it's still quite a stretch and I think there should be some sort of sourcing to include it. This is technically true for the French etymology as well. I suppose that means that I've got a double standard though like you I also think that the French explanation is the more likely one. As for the "supplementary" guide, I personally find it abhorrant when English ad-hoc pronunciations are given for foreign words. Such guides are largely equal with IPA in English words because there's no loss of information, but saying for example that Běijīng is pronounced like "bay jing" omits important phonetic information for Chinese. jar-duh for the Turkish word is especially bad; American readers will read that differently than British ones. I'll fix my goof in the article. I suggest that, to give readers the proper (English) pronunciation we should start the article with it. Something like

Jadis, the White Witch (IPA: /ʒəˈdis/ or zha-DEES) is the villain...

I'd do it myself but I'm not sure what exactly the proper pronunciation is. I'm curious. How do we know that the Disney movie got it wrong? — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 18:49, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

You repeat arguments against use of the IPA that people put forth every once in a while, the strength of which I believe caused the rule allowing respelling guides to be put with IPA. People come to Wikipedia to learn new information and if they come across IPA and don't know it they can do one of two things a) work hard to figure out how to pronounce a word or b) say "ah, it's not that important anyway." — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 19:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
(copied from my response on User talk:aeusoes1) You write, "You repeat arguments against use of the IPA ... " — but there are no arguments there against using IPA; indeed, I wish it were used more universally. I'm simply saying that in some situations (and I think this is one of them), it would be helpful to supply in addition an approximate guide as well. The most elegant tropes are naught but air if the audience fail to hear them. Elphion (talk) 21:13, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, the things you were saying (not many know IPA, font issues) are things people sometimes say against the IPA though I recognize that you're not anti-IPA. English respelling is fine for English words but for non-English words it is simply wrong. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 00:04, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Happy First Day of Spring!

[edit] Saruman

A couple of initial responses on the talk page. Cheers. 4u1e (talk) 20:31, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] treebeard

Hi thanks for message. I'm using Tuckboriugh just now because I look at the primary referances later aince they take a while to look for in the book. This is just a start. Upon completion I'll use Tolkiens work more often. Hope you understand. LOTRrules (talk) 18:11, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Not extaly trying to increase my edit count. I just spot mistakes or I want to upgrade the article or add more info in after I press the save button. That way the article improves and I get the edits as a bonus. I'll get proper references later, you should see what I have done with Watcher in the Water after it was finally completed. LOTRrules (talk) 15:10, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Boromir image

Just curious why you felt the new image is a better image? Elphion (talk) 18:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I think it would be better if we have a high resolution picture. it really brings a good look to the article as well as improves wikipedia's coverage! GLAD TO SEE YOU editing on middle earth's article. thanks, Sushant gupta (talk) 07:18, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, (1) the image you replaced is pictorially a much better image (the information lost is certainly not compensated by the higher resolution of the new image), and (2) high-resolution makes fair use of copyrighted images harder to establish. I would vote for restoring the previous image. Elphion (talk) 14:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
whether high reso or not; there is no such rule that whether fair use rationale should be lengthy or not. there is no such BIAS. fair use for movie screenshots are not dependent upon the resolution. thanks, Sushant gupta (talk) 14:31, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
OK, I'm no expert on free-use. I do see a lot of verbiage in free use justifications about keeping the image limited to a size "necessary to illustrate the article" -- which your image certainly exceeds. If that truly is not relevant, I withdraw that objection. I still think the other image is more "illustrative". Elphion (talk) 15:03, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
fine i will upload a new image with high resolution with more illustration. Sushant gupta (talk) 02:26, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] People keep getting things wrong

You've surely seen, but http://xkcd.com/386/ :) -- Quiddity (talk) 19:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

No I hadn't seen it -- I love it! And all too true. It (or a link) may end up on my User page, when I get around to doing something about it. I like yours, by the way: clean, simple, to the point. Elphion (talk) 19:59, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mithrandir =

Good point. I do think the texts need to be separated, and my edits didn't really help with that. If the date information could remain in the Appendices section, and the story part go into the Silmarillion (with citations to the Silmarillion) - I think that would be the best approach, so each book is separate. What do you think? --Davémon (talk) 18:53, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Smith of Wootton Major

Hi, I noticed your edits to Smith of Wootton Major today. Thank you very much for adding references. And what good references they are! I'm happier than ever to see my favourite story get its article improved. :) --Kjoonlee 22:37, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Middle-earth canon

Hiya. The whole article is original research insomuch as it doesn't have any sources that directly address the subject. If you have sources that do, please add them. I've also added a note on the talk-page as you requested.--Davémon (talk) 09:16, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Meaning?

What do you mean the Dol Guldur needs "*lots*" of work? See the talk page that I'v documented in the past few days. Expansion on history, etymology and culture are I'm sure at their peak. However the other sections do look a bit weak I'm sure. All I need are the refs from the Hobbit and unfinished tales, two books which I have not as of yet read. LOTRrules (talk) 20:11, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I have seen the talk page. See my additions there. I'm not trying to be unfriendly, and I appreciate the effort you've put into the article, but the organization and language need improvement. I hope to interest you in providing that. As the talk page indicates, I think you should address the structure first.  Elphion (talk) 20:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC)