Talk:Elphaba

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Contents 1 Clarification in lede 2 Wicked summaries 3 Elphaba's sex organs 4 Page name 5 Mexico Cast Member 6 Cast Replacement Information

[edit] Clarification in lede

Elphaba does not, in fact, have a last name in the book of the musical, does she? The lede is phrased to suggest that the last name is mentioned, but *I* don't remember hearing it. --Baylink 00:05, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wicked summaries

I think it's fine to have a bit of a summary in regards to what happens to Elphaba in the Wicked novel and musical, but I'm not sure it's necessary to completely retell the plots of both, seeing as this article is supposed to be about Elphaba, not the works themselves. Both of the novel and musical have their own respective articles, so the extensive retelling-of-plot should be kept to those pages. Let me know what you think. Alex 04:28, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree, the article is about Elphaba, not the retelling of 'Wicked'! TR_Wolf

The musical description is almost nothing but comparison to the novel. Something should be done about that. Sailorknightwing 03:16, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Elphaba's sex organs

There is no comment on the page about Elphaba's sexual organs (being scarred or perhaps hermaphroditic), despite all the attention paid to them in the book such as: the discussion in the intro, the uncertainty at birth, Fiyero not being allowed to see them, her own discussion on her gender (I think this occured while still in school) and perhaps there are more instances. I think this is an important part of her identity, and part of one of the overall themes of the book. I'm not much for writing, but if someone else it up to it, I think it would be an informative addition. 24.240.37.142 07:54, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Page name

I don't want to make the move unless I've brought it up first, but shouldn't this page be under the name Elphaba Thropp? That's the usual form for fictional characters. --UsaSatsui (talk) 08:08, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

It's up for debate, because I think the use of "Thropp" as an actual surname is only in the musical, not in the novel (which, being the original work, I think would take superiority?). Alex (talk) 10:29, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

She's referred to as "Elphaba Thropp" a few times in Wicked (though it's usually in the context of "Third Thropp Descending", meaning it could be a title rather than a last name), but she's called Thropp many, many times in Son of a Witch. --UsaSatsui (talk) 16:54, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mexico Cast Member

I have deleted the Mexican entry in the cast list for Elphaba. I haven't heard about a Wicked opening in Mexico but even if there is, it certainly won't have been confirmed yet. The Australian production isn't mentioned here so any future Mexican version shouldn't be either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.68.159.69 (talk) 04:41, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cast Replacement Information

Shouldn't this all be deleted since it's all present in Wicked cast lists? It makes the article look terrible. I'm de-redlinking enough as it is right now.--Conor (talk) 21:42, 7 March 2008 (UTC)