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[edit] wine stock

Is there a standard English term as 'wine stock' with the meaning as used in the article?

[edit] Speculation

I think that when writing his Foundation Trilogy, Isaac Asimov might have been inspired by the Elmer character when crafting Anacreon ruler Lord Dorwin's manner of speech. (At least it was Elmer's voice ringing through my skull when I read Dorwin's lines.) -- knoodelhed 13:48, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Wolling Stones

I've reverted to the version that claims that it was "satisfaction" that was parodied, but if you're quite sure, please revert back with discussion. --Slashme 17:32, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

It is from the Stones. A Google search of the appropriate phrases will show that. Whoever changed it to Springsteen is either misguided or vandalizing. — Amcaja 18:12, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
It's Springsteen's song "Fire" (also covered by the Pointer Sisters): "I'm drivin' in my car. I turn on the radio", not "Satisfaction" that Williams sings.
Yes, it's the Springsteen song. "Satisfaction" has a similar line, but the part about "when we kiss... fire" ID's it as the Springsteen song. Wahkeenah 22:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What does he look like?

Would be nice to see a picture of the character, I still don't know what it looks like. - User:Gonzen

"Elmer+Fudd" Try here - knoodelhed 21:21, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Was he named Elmer after someone ? Jay 08:04, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Is his full name not "Elmer J. Fudd"? 213.51.209.230 15:15, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

  • I recall rather clearly him declaring in one episode that he was "Elmer J. Fudd, millionaire. I own a mansion and a yacht." - knoodelhed 11:24, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Well, I'm glad to see someone put up a picture of Mr. Fudd, but could someone find one w/o the stupid looking 3d shading? Bugs Bunny, for example, appears to have an actual still from an actual cartoon. -- 148.65.113.28 22:15, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gollywog

I have a DVD with some 30s/40s WB cartoons on, and one of them(All this and Rabbit Stew) features a character in what is essentialy Fudd's role, but he is a stereotype black man, although he does looks similar to the modern form or Elmer Fudd in shape. I beleive I have seen this cartoon on TV a few years ago, but possibly re-animated to with Elmer in place of this pre-Elmer. Are there any sources on his history which indlude this?

The cartoon All this and Rabbit Stew was never remade entirely. The gag with the rotating log was reanimated for use in the 1946 Bugs Bunny cartoon The Big Snooze. --b. Touch 09:13, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Vegetarian?

Elmer Fudd appears to be listed under the category "Fictional vegetarians". Is he really a vegetarian, though? I don't recall any cartoon where this is revealed in any way. Is this just an ironic joke by someone, putting him in that category?

First, I can't believe that there is a category "Fictional vegetarians". Second, I think he does mention in one cartoon that he is a vegetarian and that he hunts for sport, yet in others he is clearly not a vegetarian (preparing a rabbit/duck dinner, for instance). Like most cartoon characters, traits often vary from short to short so calling him a vegetarian is, at best, wishful thinking. Jeff schiller 14:09, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I remember an episode in which he says hes a vegetarian, and that "wabbits are my favorite vegetable" --Pdinc 20:40, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

But this makes no sense! How can you be a Vegeterian and hunt animals, I mean the whole point of vegeterianism it to avoid the suffering of animals.203.53.167.180 10:22, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

Vegetarians can kill animals, they just don't eat them. You're thinking of Vegans. Besides, he has been shown to try and cook rabbit or duck, as Jeff schiller pointed out. --Piemanmoo 00:31, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

In one of Elmer's solo shorts (well, the real star is a one-shot rooster), Each Dawn I Crow, he prepares a chicken dinner. The vegetarian claim was just a throw-away gag in Duck! Rabbit! Duck!. Accordingly, I took it out. -- Ted Watson (talk) 21:14, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Actually, that was Rabbit Fire. WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 18:35, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cartoon name assistance

I'm looking for the name of this one Elmer Fudd animated short where this singing black cat unwittingly wakes Elmer up. There's this one particular scene (that I find adorable) where the cat sings Brahms' Lullaby to put Elmer back to sleep. It works and the cat carries Elmer into his bedroom, tucks him in, kisses his forehead, and quietly leaves the room, turning off the lights as he goes. (Awwwww ^_^). Angie Y. 00:53, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Wait a minute, I figured it out. It's titled Back Alley Op-roar. Angie Y. 00:41, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Elmer Fudd

I went to college with this guy. --Wayne Neptune 02:23, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

  • He's a cartoon character. I find it hard to believe you went to college with a cartoon.GalacticExplorer 04:49, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

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Fair use added. SkierRMH 07:24, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recognizable picture

There's no picture of Elmer Fudd's most recognizable design, from the era described in the "Elmer's peak" section. This is a serious flaw for a high importance article. It's rated B-class without one? -- AvatarMN 19:06, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First Elmer Fudd?

I heard this was the first one? It was just from this page but there's two pictures, one in colour and one in black and white. So I'm not very sure. http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/cartoons/47.htm http://www.ferris.edu/jimcrow/cartoons/allthis.htm Like, is it mentioned in the article? I skimmed. Or does another person jump in and say, "Hi I'm going to blow your brains out now!"? - Babylon pride (talk) 01:08, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

The closest thing to a connection between this (from the short, All This and Rabbit Stew) and Elmer Fudd, is that in his book Tex Avery: King of Cartoons, 1975, De Capo Press, Joe Adamson said there was a later, censored version that somehow replaced this African-American caricature with Fudd. I've never seen any such reworked version or any corroborating report, however. Ted Watson (talk) 20:33, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Contrary to what Adamson may say, there is no such "remake" of All this and Rabbit Stew. The Big Snooze used the famous "log-over-the-cliff" gag, animating Fudd over the Stepin Fetchit hunter, but that's it. — Cinemaniac (talk) 20:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Change of The Fairly OddParents episode title--is that right?

In correcting the "...in popular culture" reference to an episode of The Fairly OddParents, I also Wikilinked it to the article on that show. There was a link to a list of episodes, which I checked just in case the episode had its own article. However, while the ep. title given here was "TV Chasers," the closest I could find there was "Timmy TV." The very skimpy plot summary there was not inconsistent with the description here, but it's not that good a match, either. Can anybody confirm if this was a good faith mistake or a case of "Sneaky vandalism," per this? Ted Watson (talk) 21:58, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Egghead?

In the Egghead section of the article, it states that "many cartoon historians believe that Egghead evolved into Elmer over a period of a couple of years." However, in his book Hollywood Cartoons, Michael Barrier thinks that Elmer and Egghead were always two distinctly different characters, stating that the misconception that Egghead evolved into Elmer is one of "those persistent little errors that will never go away". While I've always heard and read that Fudd evolved from Egghead, maybe we should mention this. Whadaya think? — Cinemaniac (talk • contribs) 00:14, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't know much about this Barrier, but in A Feud There Was (1938), Egghead rides into the action on a scooter bearing the unmentioned words, "Elmer Fudd, Peacemaker." The last short in this original series was A Day at the Zoo, in 1939. There were subsequent to this a few cartoons with a character called Elmer, who has the face and voice we now associate with Fudd, but dresses like Egghead, and the shape of his head reflects the other, as well (Elmer's Candid Camera, Good Night, Elmer and Elmer's Pet Rabbit), along with two others that are clearly the same man, but in period costume appropriate to the story at hand (The Hardship of Miles Standish and Confederate Honey). With the 1941 exception of Rabbit, these are all from 1940. Between Hardship and Night, Fudd as we know him appeared in A Wild Hare. Barrier can "think" whatever he wants, but the prevailing evidence says otherwise. Ted Watson (talk) 22:26, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

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