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[edit] Baseless Nazi allegiance accusations from Russian officials

Per your request, here's Yet Another article with fresh (albeit phony) Nazi allegiance accusations from an influential State Duma member: [1]. I'm sure tomorrow's news will bring more, and then there will be the day after that ... Digwuren 14:38, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vladimir Putin

The Vladimir Putin article received heavy editing today by new/unregistered users, which I noticed at WikiRage.com. The article may benefit from a good review. According to Wikipedia Page History Statistics, you are one of the top contributors to that page. If you have the time, would you please read over the article and make any necessary changes. Thanks. -- Jreferee (Talk) 06:10, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] authors name

are S. Yaroslavtsev and S. Vititsky pen names used for he joint work of Arkady and Boris Strugatsky? Otherwise I am unable to figure out the linking from Devil amongst people and Search for Designation, or Twenty Seventh Theorem of Ethics. Perhaps you could be a little more specific for those articles. And it will be necessary to give some indications that the individual books are individually famous, as shown usually by prizes or best-seller status or both. DGG (talk) 01:18, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A request

I would highly appreciate if you never visit my talk page again because of this incident [2]. I have asked you several times about it. Thank you. Biophys 04:46, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I thought that episode is over. Do you need formal excuses? You have them. I ask you to excuse me for that incident; there were no bad intentions from my side, but that looked awkward and perhaps had put you in awkward position too. Anyway, there were no threats from my side. Yes, that was highly incorrect, but I just wished to check your command of modern Russian slang, which of course involves much of 90-s criminal/business one. So your comment is KG/AM. ellol 04:51, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Btw, just as a friendly advise... Do you know what I myself would see as an adequate reaction for that episode? If I myself on your place had got such a note, I would just ask: "And how do I need to understand this? Shall I see that a threat?" That's enough! Anything on the lines of "Ой, бля, да пошёл ты нахуй, пиздец гребаный" would be also sorts of adequate in that situation (of course, only in that situation, not in everyday life). You are frightened by something, it's evident. Perhaps you still think I'm a security services agent? ellol 05:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

You drastically lack of sense of humour. ellol 05:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I lack any sense of humor. That [3] was coded death threat using Russian criminal slang. That [4] was bad faith accusation. Here [5] you suggested that I think about you that you are FSB agent. But I have never said that. That is something you said. This is over the top. It was always you who was coming uninvited to my talk page with such claims. Therefore, I suggest that we both stop communicating at out talk pages. Let's use talk pages of articles and discuss strictly article's content. Thank you. Biophys 16:02, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
If you don't want to communicate, do not. If you don't mind talking, then what's the problem? I don't see why you need my formal agreement on the action you commit completely on your side. ellol 21:42, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm glad you don't suspect me of being an fsb-ist. I insist that was no death threat. Better you got frightened of your own shadow. I guess the whole problem is we were born in a single country but belong to different cultures. Yours is the Soviet culture with a mix of an American one. Mine is a bit of Soviet culture mixed with the majority of post-soviet Russian culture. ellol 08:47, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your message

thanks for the note. Just to clarify some points you made. I am not really a Wiki rookie as I have been contributing to the Russian one for about year now (if you will go to the Russian article on, say, " Кирилл (Гундяев) ", you will be able to see the history of my edits under the same byline). What i really find amazing is that from my (thus far limited experience) i have found the English politics-related articles much more un-NPOV; in fact they are crudely skewed towards the conventional wisdom, even when the latter is obviously incorrect. Take, as a case in point, World War Two article. Some while ago i tried (anonymously) to challenge the shop-soiled notion that it was started by Hitler on 1st September (to me it is a self-evident fact that on that day a BILATERAL conflict was triggered - not a WORLD war, which broke out 2 days later by declarations of war by Britain and France). I was flabbergasted by the unanimous and unreasonable repudiation of so much as some discussion of the issue. Also, my epithets in my note to User:Biophys mostly referred to "Kulikovsky" and "Cfeet77" who, i suspect, are in effect sockpuppets. Anyway, their activity as to the Putin article is downright censorial vandalism. See more discussion thereof on the discussion page.Muscovite99 (talk) 17:31, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cold War Question

Dear ellol

You don't know me, but I've read some of your discussions and you strike me as a reasonable enough person, and you have a firm grasp of the English language. So there is a question I've always wanted to ask a Russian, and maybe you could be the one to answer it. Do you ever feel guilty about the imperialism that Russia exerted in the Cold War? I do not mean to be patronizing or triumphalistic. Americans often do feel guilty, especially when it comes to Third World countries, where our attempts to "expand our influence" in order to check ya'll (Texas dialect, plural you) was seen by many as merely an extension of American imperialism (Vietnam, for instance.) On the other hand, I feel that some of our interventions, though with obvious failings did have positive results (Korea, for, instance, or Grenada) Coming to grips with the nations imperial past is a somewhat...conflicted emotion. One is both ashamed and proud at the same time, perhaps because the historical subject is so broad. How do Russians feel about this?

Sincerely, --Dudeman5685 (talk) 16:27, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Dear ellol

Thanks for answering. I saw that you were 21 on your user page, and that was part of the reason I contacted you. I was born in 1985, just as the cold war was ending. As I got older, like you, I learned more of my countries history, and, like UK, France, Japan and other places learned about the double edged sword of imperialism which, in the US, only took on a global dimension after World War 2 (we had previously only dabbled in imperialism in Latin America and to a lesser extent in the Orient).

You seem to be expressing much the same ambivalence as I do, yet I think you hit on something important. Soviet imperialism - theoretically - was not advance the interest of the Russian state, but to advance an "international" ideology. Thus it is - during the Sandinista war for instance - people were angry at the US calling us imperialists for supporting the contras - yet no one accused Russia of being imperialist for supporting the Sandinistas!

Further, I think in the Third World many people associated "western" capitalist countries - UK France, Netherlands, Belgium - with the US because of similarity in languages, political systems, etc. few of the newly independent states had a history of Russian imperialism, because the Soviets by and large won most of the Russian Imperial territories back during the Civil War. The only exception is China - which produced its own backlash against Russian influence in the form of "anti-revisionism".

--Dudeman5685 (talk) 21:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Normally, i don't like to give my given name, but in these days of MySpace and FaceBook, I don't think it will matter -- Its Jonathan L. Wright.

My original question was whether the Russian people ever feel a since of guilt about the "imperialist" activities of their government during the Cold War. If you knew a little more about the American experience, maybe you would understand better. There is here, as in many other countries, a whole range of views on the US imperial experience. Some, like Gore Vidal for instance, claim that there was never any reason to be worried about the Soviet Union, and containing it was just a ruse to further our own imperial aims. Others say that we were leading a successful crusade to bring freedom and democracy to the world. The truth, as we say in America, is always in between the two extremes.

I am just curious if there is similier feeling in your country about these historical events. Are there some Russian that say that the USSR only did bad things during the Cold War, others who say that it did no wrong? What do most regular people think.?

Since I've shown my name will you give yours? I hope Ellol is a girls name because Russian women are always attractive -- when they are young. --Dudeman5685 (talk) 00:23, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Who is this guy?

http://mosberglab.phar.umich.edu/people/AndreiLLomize.php Do you know some biophycs? )))


http://mosberglab.phar.umich.edu/people/pictures/AndreiLLomize2.jpg - full face.

I don't give a crap about biophysics, because I've just passed an exam in Quantum electrodynamics. ellol (talk) 14:41, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Patriarch Alexius II

I have made a suggestion at Patriarch Alexius II#Propose Protecting this Article that I think is workable. It changes the rules a little and should significantly reduce conflict. I would like to invite you to review the proposal and participate in the creation of a great article. It will stop edit warring by restricting work to the talk page in part because reverting another editors comments on the talk page is counter to WP:TALK. Jeepday (talk) 04:07, 30 January 2008 (UTC)