Talk:Elizabeth Hutchinson Jackson

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Yes, by all means do go to that one article, and look at the dead links under surnames. Jackson and White.

I'm not sure what you mean. That article indicates that his Hutchinson grandfather is not known, and it is backed up by Jackson's estate, The Hermitage (see [1] and [2]) and Ancestors of American Presidents by Gary Boyd Roberts, p. 12, the definitive resource on Presidential Ancestry (see [3]). So, unless you can find a reputable genealogical source to counter those two authoritative sources I've just given, please do not re-add unsourced information.--Michael WhiteT·C 16:36, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I have already been in touch with The Hermitage site. They claim that it looks better, if he is an orphan. His aunts are all known, and so are their kin. This is a fact period. To say that all his aunts, did not know there father and grandfather is a bunch of bull. All of his aunts are listed on the Hermitage site. Where is your link to ((Gary Boyd Roberts))? First your had another source, now you switch to Gary Boyd Roberts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.19.117.40 (talk) 06:58, 27 February 2008 (UTC) The link on Andrew Jacksons aunts is the same as mine only i have added a few dates and names. Where is this chart and page 12, you use as a reference? People should be able to look it up on line. Where is it? Many people wanted to be kin to him((Andrew Jackson)) and have included him in their genalogy charts. This has been done for centuries. Randall O (talk) 08:23, 27 February 2008 (UTC) Randall O

I provided the link to the Gary Boyd Roberts source above. Here it is. A fellow Wikipedia editor looked it up because he owns the book, at an earlier time when I was asking whether Andrew Jackson had royal ancestry. So, it is verified. Roberts is the expert on presidential genealogy. Please provide a reputable genealogical source, or even a source that shows that his aunts claimed Francis Cyrus Hobart Hutchinson was their father. --Michael WhiteT·C 14:13, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment You have only given this one writer, there have been over 40 people who have written books on the Presidents families. Randall O (talk) 11:09, 29 February 2008 (UTC) Randall O
Well, Roberts is the preeminent one. Could you actually cite a source? --Michael WhiteT·C 13:43, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
You're making a number of illogical statements. First, that writer is the preeminent presidential genealogy scholar, and you say "40 people who have written books on the Presidents families," but that doesn't mean 40 people have written books on Andrew Jackson's family that said Elizabeth Hutchinson was Francis Cyrus Hobart Hutchinson's daughter. Second, your explanation of The Hermitage's report is entirely unconvincing. Why would you say they claim it looks better if he is an orphan, when it is undisputed that he was (as his mother died when he was a teenager), while that has absolutely nothing to do with his mother's parentage? Third, your attempt to use Ancestry.com public member trees as a source is laughable. It's just shoddy genealogy; if you provide a reliable source, such statements can be included on Elizabeth's article. --Michael WhiteT·C 05:31, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
See this page. It has them with a daughter Elizabeth, but born in 1720. It's highly unlikely (but not impossible) that Margaret Lisle had Elizabeth Hutchinson at the age of 47 (because she was actually born in 1737). This indicates to me that the claim that Elizabeth Hutchinson was his daughter is poor genealogical scholarship, and almost certainly false. --Michael WhiteT·C 05:36, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
More links: [4] [5]. --Michael WhiteT·C 05:44, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment Burkes Presidential Families of the United States of America, Burkes Peerage Limited, 1975 Edition. I think i will take there word, for her father being Francis Hutchinson. After all her sister was married to James Crawford, who was the son of Sir John Crawford. 10:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC) Randall O —Preceding unsigned comment added by Randall O (talk • contribs)
There we go :-) . --Michael WhiteT·C 13:51, 3 March 2008 (UTC)