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[edit] Hungarian
On the Sept. 28 page Kazan is listed as beeing hungarian-born. In this article he is considered a greek borh in Istanbul(Turkey). What about that?
He was definitely a Greek born in Istanbul, although at the time it was still called Constantinople. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.72.174.119 (talk) 05:38, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
Is anyone familiar with the full list of people who stood up and those who sat for Kazan's Lifetime Achievement Oscar?
So far this is what I know:
Actors/Actresses that gave standing ovation: Warren Beatty Goldie Hawn Helen Hunt Lynn Redgrave Kurt Russell Meryl Streep
Actors/Actresses who sat and clapped: Jim Carrey Steven Speilberg
Actors/Actresses who sat and did not clap: Ed Harris Nick Nolte Mare Winningham Amy Madigan
I don't know a lot about the man, but just because some one sits during an award ceremony doesn't necessarly mean they are making some sort of statement. There are a lot of times that I don't clap in a room ful of people who are clapping because "What the point" My two cents anywaySmith03 22:55, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Well, typically at the Oscars people give standing ovations for Lifetime Achievement Awards, and people definately were making a statement by not standing and clapping.
>>They sat for a reason. He named names. His actions had repercussions. His actions ruined careers and lives.
Hey if those actors had just admitted it they would've stayed working.Believe me losing your career because of political reasons is stupid but if you act like a mobster and refusing to break omerta you deserve to lose it this is a rough and mean world and its every man for himself.Besides Kazan said he was doing because the communists betrayed him and the group theater by trying to control and really that shows how dangerous communism and fascism are they will control even something as innocent as a play.
The reference to John Steinbeck seems either out of place or wrong, as "The Grapes of Wrath" was written well before the Red Scare. Should this be some other book?
Removed reference to John Wayne and Ronald Reagan, they testified in the first round of hearings where 'friendly' witnesses were called, and did not name names.
[edit] Pronunciation
This has recently been changed to something that does not agree with either the "Mickey Mouse" phonetics previously given, or the Greek orthography. In other words the pronunciation has been changed rather than just converted to IPA. I don't know for a fact how Kazan (or most people) pronounced his name, but we urgently need some kind of confirmation that his name was indeed pronounced (eschewing IPA for the non-linguists) "EEL-ee-a" rather than "el-EE-ya". Otherwise it would seem safest to to remove the edit. Flapdragon 18:30, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
I knew the man and he pronounced it EE-LEE-ah. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.72.174.119 (talk) 05:35, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Inadequate Citation
The citation of a right wing blog quoting a reuters article is not adequate as a reliable source for information. There needs to be a link to the original reuters article in this entry, or the passage about a kazan critic wishing that he be shot onstage should be removed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tsg946 (talk • contribs) 2006-12-28.
[edit] Need to improve the references on this article
Kazan is one of the top American film directors of the 20th Century, and aside from his substantial artistic contributions he is noteworthy for the controversy of his ‘naming names’ and refusing to apologize for it. The Wikipedia article on Kazan, however, leaves much to be desired and I tagged it with refimprove. The article now has only four footnotes, of which one seems to be a science-fiction site in Finland and another is the right-wing organization Media Research Center (which bills itself as "The Leader in Documenting, Exposing and Neutralizing Liberal Media Bias"). I realize it's a lot of work to cite everything to one or another of the biographies written about him, but at least let's start with the obituaries of Kazan that were published in mainstream newspapers and serious film journals. There are some other articles listed at the end of this blog entry by Orrin Judd (though of course the blog entry itself is not a good source). Currently the section of the article on his HUAC testimony is not entirely balanced: it has been written to cast Kazan in the best possible light. For example I don't understand why that section of the article needs a list of “some others who named names”. But aside from that controversy, the article is very sparse on Kazan's contributions to American film; it names some of his films and mentions that he ’elicited remarkable performances’ but doesn’t explain how Kazan’s films led an overarching change in the style of American film acting in pictures released by major studios. For example, the style of acting in 1970s films like Taxi Driver, Dog Day Afternoon, and Saturday Night Fever is completely unlike the theatrical acting style in most American films up to the 1950s, but those 1970s films are direct descendants of Kazan movies like On the Waterfront and A Face in the Crowd. --Cinematical 08:28, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Biased
This is highly biased towards Kazan. He certainly ruined a lot of careers and lives. Justifying his actions, he made "On the Waterfron" which I belive did not merit so many Oscars. To talk about the dangers or communism or fascism, I would just like to point out that Maccarthyism was no less dangerous.Shovon 13:22, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
McCarthyism, unlike Stalinism, had no gulags. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.72.174.119 (talk) 05:37, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
