User talk:Eldanest

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[edit] February 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, one or more of the external links you added to the page Steven Seagal do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. NeilN talk ♦ contribs 03:39, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did to Steven Seagal. Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam guideline for further explanations. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. Thank you. NeilN talk ♦ contribs 20:48, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

If you have a close connection to some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Steven Seagal, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:

  1. editing articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
  2. participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors;
  3. linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam);
    and you must always:
  4. avoid breaching relevant policies and guidelines, especially neutral point of view, verifiability, and autobiography.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have conflict of interest, please see Wikipedia:Business' FAQ. For more details about what constitutes a conflict of interest, please see Wikipedia:Conflict of Interest. Thank you. NeilN talk ♦ contribs 20:52, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
The next time you insert a spam link, as you did to Steven Seagal, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Persistent spammers may have their websites blacklisted as well, preventing anyone from linking to them from all of Wikipedia. NeilN talk ♦ contribs 21:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Stop Spamming

I urge you to read Wikipedia:External links before you are blocked. --NeilN talk ♦ contribs 21:09, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

In addition, I urge you to read Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines. Your comments on Talk:Steven Seagal clearly indicate that you are associated with the site whose link you keep inserting. On Wikipedia, you aren't allowed to add your own links to articles. ~Amatulić (talk) 21:37, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

First it was a conflict of interest that bothered you about this link. Well I have nothing to do with neither Steven Seagal nor any of his accredited TenShin instructors. So there is no conflict of interests. Calling me a spammer is a below par remark since I have never inserted one other external link anywhere in Wikipedia. I read the Guidelines of External Links and they certainly do not say anything that would make the TenShin link unacceptable. This is an external link to one of only three Aikido teachers in the world that are endorsed by Steven Seagal. You can verify that on the official Seagal web page. This is clean and neutral and fact based and can be verified through Stevens website that is already part of the external links anyway. NeilN you asked me to explain myself on the discussion page which I did in all details and all you shot back to me are generic write ups about conflict of interest, soapboxing and spamming - none of which applies to me or what I try to do here. Maybe you can dignify my sub-intellectual position with answer that actually is written in response to my arguments and not some links to some rules that never were violated in the first place. Maybe you could move from being sanctimonious to actually say or explain something that make sense and is in response to the issue. I can look up the guidelines with out your guidance. Its not the guidelines but their interpretation that is at stakes here. And that is all your opinion is - one interpretation that may or may not be supported by anybody else but you. So try to formulate a position instead of patronizing me. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.220.32.166 (talk) 23:11, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

The link you provided has absolutely no information on Steven Seagal beyond one mention of him. It goes against:
  1. Links mainly intended to promote a website.
  2. Links to sites that primarily exist to sell products or services.
  3. Sites that are only indirectly related to the article's subject
As an an example, lots of famous people promote various products/services. However links to these products/services are not present in the person's article. --NeilN talk ♦ contribs 01:15, 23 February 2008 (UTC)