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Contents 1 Revisions 2 Buying the film 3 merge Abelcain into sequel section? 4 Introductory Quote 5 Re-write 6 Fair use rationale for Image:El Topo 0000.jpg 7 Fair use rationale for Image:El Topo 0001.jpg 8 Fair use rationale for Image:El Topo 0003.jpg 9 Fair use rationale for Image:El Topo 0004.jpg 10 Fair use rationale for Image:El Topo 0005.jpg 11 Fair use rationale for Image:El Topo 01.jpg

[edit] Revisions

I've made some major revisions to this article, but since I haven't seen the movie in at least 5 years I'm not gonna stand by all of them. I cleaned up the text considerably, removed references to the freaks (sorry if that offends, but it is obviously a part of Jodorowsky's conception of how they will be perceived, as is reinforced by later work like Santa Sangre) as 'mutants' (see it was worse), added a number of details about the plot, added an interpretation section, moved the info about John Lennon to an "Other" section (not really needed to be mentioned in the intro graf, IMO), and probably a few other things I can't remember. forgot to sign: --Andymussell 04:11, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

The "Interpretations" section looks to me like it might be original research. Is there a source? --Misterwindupbird 09:08, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

There seems to be a conflict between the summary and the trivia. In the summary, it says that there was no finished sequel to El Topo, but in the Trivia, it says that the sequel was called Holy Mountain (which was finished). Which version is correct?

Follow-up, not a sequel. Perhaps this was already correct, or was corrected after you posted. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SlipGun (talk • contribs) 06:32, 18 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Buying the film

This film doesn't seem to be available anywhere within the UK. Does anybody know if it's actually available for purchase? --^pirate 16:08, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] merge Abelcain into sequel section?

The film Abelcain seem to be on hold indefinitely, and it seems unlikely the article stub is going to be added to any time soon. I suggest what little info is on that page be merged here so that people interested in El Topo can get all their info in one place. This will also keep news of the sequel from getting out of synk by keeping it all together. If the sequel gets back into production, we could always re-create the page.

Discuss.

--142.103.211.29 00:58, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Okay, since nobody seems to object, I merged the Abelcain info into El Topo and added some info from the article on Jodorowsky. --Mr Wind-Up Bird ✈ 17:28, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Introductory Quote

I looked up this article hoping to find the exact quote about from the beginning of the film (about the mole being blinded by the light). There is an interpretation here, but not the quote itself. It would be nice to include it. (Can't help with this myself. If I knew it I wouldn't be here.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ericfluger (talk • contribs) 18:03, 24 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Re-write

I'm thinking of rewriting the plot. There are a lot of grammer errors as well as a lot of past tense telling of the plot like "During their journey they found a lifeless town", generally when telling a plot you tell it as a present tense type of thing. "During their journey they find a lifeless town". It also jumps from using a past tense to present tense and back again.

"Mara convinced El Topo to defeat the four great gun masters to become the greatest gunman in the land."

"The man claims to be impervious to bullets stating that "he offers them no resistance," and even demonstrates this ability."

As an example of other plots written, from Star Wars: "En route to Alderaan, Obi-Wan instructs Luke in the Force. When they arrive at their destination, all they find is a hail of debris." It is not written in a past tense.

I would think that it would read better if this was cleaned up. Anyone object to this?

Also, what would lead one to believe that the first master was a hermaphodite? I didn't see that at all or an implication that he was one. He was feminine but that doesn't mean anything. Has this been something that has been stated by the film maker?

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:El Topo 0000.jpg

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