Talk:El Shaddai (song)

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[edit] Hymnbooks / congregational use

OK, someone has added a citation needed tag. I know from personal experience that it has been included in a number of hymnbooks (but don't have copies) and have been in churches when it's been sung, But that's hardly authoritative or verifiable. I've found an entry in someone's blog confirming both these facts, but I don't think that would be sufficient. Any idea how best to handle this? Sidefall 00:11, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Minor edits and requests for expansion

I've done some slight editing to this article - most particularly rearranging the lead section to mention the songwriters first, which I think gives them due credit and results in a more accurate and balanced article. A few questions that I'd like to see answered:

  • Was it originally written for Amy Grant?
  • Which of Michael Card's first two albums (First Light and Legacy) was it recorded on?
  • How did it come to be occasionally used congregationally?
  • I would guess that, for many Christians, it was and still is the only contact they have had with the Hebrew language. Can anyone elaborate on this? Can the song be related to the development of the hebrew roots and messianic jewish movements? I'd be very interested in some contextual background - causes and effects of the song.

I would also agree with the unsigned comment below regarding the authority of an external reference. I am not a sufficient hebrew expert to be able to offer an opinion - I've left the article unchanged, but I will add a cautionary note.

Sidefall 09:21, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "I pity you, God"??

This doesn't seem to be supported by the source. Though it is apparently a rather odd use of the word, it is used in Psalms by David to express love to God. That is all, of course, assuming the source can be trusted at all, which I would like to call into question. It's a geocities site by a user named "Demonobsession666" who appears to have a number of satanic and/or cultic things on his site (e.g. http://www.geocities.com/demonobsession666/occultcrime.html). I believe that this would definitely put him well outside the boundaries of NPOV...

The exact stem (Binyan) and consonantal root combination seen in 'Erħamka at Psalms 18:2 is a hapax legomenon in the Biblical text, so it's difficult to say with absolute certainty what it means, but the general root R-Ħ-M has meanings "mercy, compassion, love" (but not romantic love). See R-H-M for the analogous Arabic. AnonMoos 11:41, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
So, in context, it seems to me the best translation is "Merciful Lord". --68.35.127.124 (talk) 01:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:El Shaddai.ogg

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BetacommandBot 11:20, 27 October 2007 (UTC)