Talk:El Lissitzky

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[edit] "Polytechnic Institute of Rima"

I'm guessing this is a typo for "Polytechnic Institute of Riga". -- Jmabel | Talk 23:12, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)

Yes, you are correct, I fixed it. Sharp eye --Clngre 23:39, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Had gadya

Had gadya is a reference to a traditional song associated with Passover, is it not? Unless I'm wrong, this should probably be mentioned. -- Jmabel | Talk 23:14, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)

Yes it is, I'll mention that. --Clngre 23:39, Mar 23, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lazar or Eliezar

Which of the above is his real given name? The article gives the first, but the only redirect to the article comes from the latter. If it's Eliezar (I know little about him, but that would make shortening to "El" more comprehensible), then the article should be corrected, and if it's Lazar, an appropriate redirect needs to be created. --Michael Snow 23:58, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

To be honest, I can't really say 100% because I think the exact spelling has something to do with how its spelt in Russian or translated from it. For example, I've seen his middle name as "Morduchovitch", "Markowich", "Markovich", etc. I'm just what is the best way to approach this issue other than by sheer Google popularity, in which case Lazar is the most common. For now I'll leave it at that and create redirects for the many variations. --Clngre 00:14, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
You may well be right on that; the Cyrillic form of his name should probably be added in parentheses. Multiple redirects is the way to go, then. As for the variations on the middle name, my instinct is to see a rendition like "Markovich", like the shortening of the first name to "El", as a way of making his Jewish roots less obvious to the public. I expect Morduchovitch, however transliterated, is correct. --Michael Snow 00:24, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I fully agree, I'll do that now. Also, if you know how to do the Cryillic form, please do, because I have no idea. --Clngre 00:27, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)
In one of the biographies by Sophie Lissitzky Kuppers, Lissitzky's full name is Lazar Markovich Lissitzky.

[edit] Rather delightful

Thanks for noticing our lack of great art articles. This is great stuff, particularly the selected works table. (Was that copied from some other article? If not, it should be made a template for some appropriate [set of] WikiProject[s]. +sj + 05:59, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I made the table and I plan on expanding it. Even as a "selected works" I think its a bit too selective and skimpy --Clngre 14:32, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Great

This is the best wikipedia, perhaps paper as well, article I have seen for a while. Well done to the contributors for their great job. --82.33.200.49 04:28, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I would have to agree with the above. I never heard of El Lissitzky until I came across this article. Bravo! Nice article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.74.192.210 (talk) 02:54, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Page vandalised

Thanks a bunch to the tosser who deleted the whole article "one of the best on the Wike site", replacing it with drivel. Grow up.

[edit] Side note: Page vandal

Side note: User 209.158.114.51 has already vandalised a number of pages. Any way to block him? (I know this really doesn't belong here, so feel free to remove this comment once something has been done)

[edit] Teyashim

Given all the vandalism that has gone on: I notice that Arba'ah Teyashim (Four Billy Goats) was turned into just Teyashim. Was this a deliberate change (i.e. the title was previously wrong) or an accidentally introduced error? -- Jmabel | Talk 07:08, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)

Well, I'm pretty sure teyashim means male goat, and I just assume "Arba'ah" means four. ? I really forget. If you know of anyone that speaks Hebrew and can confirm this, it'd be great. --Clngre 01:50, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
I changed the title back to Arba'ah Teyashim. Looking at the history, it appears that originally the title was Teyashim. However, someone corrected the title shortly after. It seems that it was later reverted when someone was removing vandalism. "Arba'ah" does mean four. The cover of the book clearly says Arba'ah Teyashim and there are various representations of four (4, IV, the letter dalet, etc.)
If anyone feels that this change is wrong, please explain why.

[edit] Featured article review of December 8, 2005

This review resulted in the passing of a new version of the article. Some minor extant issues remain unsolved, including empty section "avant garde", remove or add content.

This version was promoted in March, and has not really changed much. Some links were fixed, and I note the addition of an invisible comment asking for a clarification on one issue. All other changes were copyediting, image moving and such. Tuf-Kat 06:49, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

  • Excellent article. Technical issues include, two unreferenced quotes: one from an "one English newspaper columnist" and one from his own autobiography(!). Note 3 is not properly referenced (references quotes but does not provide a page number). The "The avant garde" section has no text (why do so many article have sections without text? what is that suppose to accomplish?). Otherwise, it is an amazing article. --maclean25 22:54, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
    • I removed the unreferenced quotation by "one English newspaper columnist" and added the footnote to his autobiography. "The avant garde" section was re-named to "Avant garde" per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings). That section does not have text but can used to discuss his impact on avant garde and tie the three subsections together. I do not believe I am qualified to write such an introduction. --maclean25 05:39, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
      • I think that it's meant to be a super-heading only. It's poor organization rather than an empty section. Jkelly 05:44, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] OTRS

WTF is OTRS? (I believe they were all Jews. Who is in doubt?) - Jmabel | Talk 20:10, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] interwiki

hello everybody,
can someone add the interwiki to the article on the hebrew wikipedia - he:אל ליסיצקי? the "Spam protection filter" does not agree to the adding. thanks, 88.153.194.158 19:01, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I just added it. Earlier today Mzlla removed a blacklisted link. That looks like it was the problem. ~CS 14:17, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] El Lissitzky's teacher

In the El Lissitzky book Life Letters Texts (Thames & Hudson, 1980) by Sophie Lissitzky-Kuppers, Lissitzky's teacher/advisor/mentor's name is Yuri Penn, as opposed to Yehuda, or Jehuda Pen. I thought this might be of relevance.

Dudeglove 21:56, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Victory Over the Sun

'In February of 1920, under the leadership of Malevich, the group worked on a "suprematist ballet", choreographed by Nina Kogan, and the precursor to Aleksander Kruchenykh's influential futurist opera, Victory Over the Sun.' Victory Over the Sun was produced at the Luna Park Theatre in Petersburg in December 1913 (Ref Gray, The Russian Experiment in Art); I think that the dates are mixed up here? 84.55.153.98 (talk) 14:23, 28 November 2007 (UTC)