Talk:El Al Flight 1862

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Contents 1 From National Geographic documentary 2 dimethyl methylphosphonate 3 things to do on this page 4 inconsistency on the page

[edit] From National Geographic documentary

I am watching a program on National Geographic. It says that engine 3 ejected itself forward, and then smashed back into engine 4 by pure chance. A 747 supposed to be able to operate on two engines, but the damage to the wing disrupted the air flow in such way that the plane could not sustain sufficient lift on the right wing below a certain air speed. The pilot, unaware of this, reduced the speed to prepare for landing, which caused the plane to tilt 90 degrees to the right and crash. Comments please? -- Heptor _talk 01:00, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

I simply do not understand the connection in sentence "[...] causing the engine and nacelle to tilt up and right due to gyroscopic forces, knocking engine 4 off the wing too." How would gyroscopic forces cause the engine to tilt up and right, and how this would affect engine 4? -- Heptor _talk 01:05, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

If you imagine engine 3 not attached to the wing but still spinning at high revs it will rotate completely - I believe jets generally spin clockwise, which would push it towards engine 4. It's the same principle as on a helicopter: without a tail rotor, the body of the helicopter would spin around as well as the blades. --[[User: Brumie _talk 14:05, 05 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] dimethyl methylphosphonate

Checking the history, there seems to be a bit of an edit war on this issue. The current text states that this material is "used in the synthesis of Sarin nerve gas". While this fact is true, the material has many other more common uses. Picking this specific use and mentioning it in passing may be classified as weasel words as it implies that this was the intended use of the material. If any such allegations were made publicly they may be reported in the article and attributed with proper citations to whoever made the allegation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.8.159.153 (talk) 13:49, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] things to do on this page

I just added some translated text from nl.wikipedia article on "Bijlmerramp" and additional information to this page. I don't know how to make a real TODO Wikipedia list, but here are a few suggestions on how to improve this page as of the current date:

• Wikify the text
• Add citations wherever possible
• Polish the syntax, it is a rough translation from the nl.wikipedia article on the Bijlmerramp
• Clean up according to Wikipedia style guidelines
• Correct factual errors or translation errors

I will continue to add translated text from the nl.wikipedia article, or if you would like please do it yourself. Let's make it a Good Article. plmoknijb 03:38, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] inconsistency on the page

• Death toll in the summary on the right (47; (43 + 4)) is not equal to the other statements on the page (43; (39+4)).