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[edit] Spelling

Granting that we're talking about translating cross-alphabetically, but can we get some agreement on the "proper" spelling of this festival? Where exactly do the accent marks (') if any go? How many hyphens are there? --Dante Alighieri 23:15 Dec 5, 2002 (UTC)

OK, I mean: is it Eid ul-Fitr or 'Eid-ul-Fitr?

Since no one is answering, I'm changing the second instance to match the first. --Dante Alighieri 00:29 Dec 6, 2002 (UTC)

the question is not that simple to answer: there are two forms in arabic, one declinated (eid ul-fitr) - the u signifying the nominativ - and one in pausa, case independent (eid al-fitr), the other problem is that an ayn is missing at the beginning of eid. Usually this is transcribed by a small superscript c. Does anybody know a Unicode-entity for this? --elian

The all spell of Eid ul-Fitr are same. In Malaysia we spell it as Aidilfitri. The spell is not important because it will back to the same meaning >> Back to the fitrah ( natural tendency ). It is same like Koran. Some of people will spell it as Koran, in Malaysia we spell it as al-Quran, but some of the book will spell Qu'ran or Quran without 'al'. Or another example, United State of America. At Malaysia, we call it as Amerika Syarikat... so it is still refer to USA, rite?

[edit] Alms

The article gives a pretty exact USD quote for the Zakat al Fitr, but in which country, and what year? --Shallot 20:42, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Now it talks about "basic foodstuffs", but the list is rather Arab-centric. How is it done elsewhere? --Joy [shallot] 09:38, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Title

Upon some further investigation, I don't see much reason not to rename this page into an English title -- for example Feast of Ramadan, a term known to Google at least. I don't know to what extent the Arabic word is more Islamic than others — we've already got recorded various Turkish/Albanian/Bosnian, Indonesian and Singaporean variants. --Joy [shallot] 20:31, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Just make sure that this article is found when someone searches for "Eid".

I'm not the biggest expert in Islam nor editing Wikipedia but here is something about the title. This is the first time in my life I'm hearing this title. In Turkish we use 'Ramazan Bayramı', the translation is 'Ramadan Holiday' (or it can vary as Feast of Ramadan, Ramadan Feast, etc.) or as an unofficial term we use 'Şeker Bayramı', the translation is 'Candy Holiday' (as always it may have variations) because of the traditional candy offering to people. I'm not sure the Arabic name must be kept. It better be a generic name like Feast of Ramadan and there must be links to it. And I better write a paragraph or so for the holiday in Turkiye. —Jack in the box 12:40, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation

How do you Prononciate :) this? TomCerul 22:33, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Eid, is the 'eed' in need. Ul is sometimes 'ull' as in hull, but often a mixed or leaning towards 'ahl' as in "doll" if you know the food... This is a guess kind of... I think it's fitter, but, you need to it more... like r. (the dot being under the r, to show it's not really affected by the letters around it)... That was a really bad explanation but someone who probably fails at pronouncing it. :( gren グレン 11:31, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Unreferenced

When I saw the Eid in the US section added I realized this article has gotten large but the sources are not really expanding. I personally don't know much about local traditions... I would say that in America it really depends on your community. The Pakistanis I know celebrate Chānd Rāt so I would say there is no real distinct American tradition. We need to cite all of this though. What we have now seems too narrow and specific. gren グレン 11:31, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

I threw in the section on Eid around the world after reading this [1] article, with the idea that it could eventually become its own article, or even collection of articles. I didn't cite the article because I was lazy, and now edit creep makes the task more daunting. I'll try to reference things, but what do people think about spinning off a new article, a la Christmas worldwide? Smmurphy 05:03, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

What is eid-ul-fitr in short

[edit] 2005 date

Since it's now already 2006, using the future tense for talking about the date (in the Gregorian calendar) or Eid ul-Fitr doesn't make much sense to me. Either the date is certain (since it's in the past), or there are still disagreements, but either way, the past tense seems appropriate. And if it's certain, then saying when the date was determined to be seems like a good idea to me. -- pne (talk) 12:19, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chand Raat

It is not a variation on the word Eid ul Fitr, for more information look at Chand Raat -- Ali 10:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name

  • This is a holy days for all muslims.
  • The Muslim world has many languages, as everybody knows, arabic is one of them of course.
  • Arabic article name, make no any sense for other nations.
  • Suggestion;
Lets named it in English.
All other names in different languages redirected to English named article.

Regards Mustafa AkalpTC 12:58, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

I am not sure what is meant by the proposal. In English the holiday is refered to by its Arabic name, which happen to be language of the Koran. So then the title should be Eid al-Fitr, as it is. Bertilvidet 22:34, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Bertilvidet. Muslims around the world have different languages, but Arabic unites them, it is the language of the Qur'an, the prayer recitation, and even the universal islamic greeting, As salam alaikum. Therefore, Eid al Fitr it is! IstiArief 11:51, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Islamic versus Western POV

I changed "non-islamic countries in the West" to "western countries" Wikipedia by itself could only be a product of the openness that makes western civilization great while "non-islamic countries in the West" somehow assumes that not being islamic is the exception when in fact with most of the world moving towards a western based open society while maintaining key aspects of their traditional culture. Therefore, western society should be the default, expecially on the english wikipedia. Perhaps on the arabic version an islamic society should be the default. Huckfinne 04:36, 13 October 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Eid-ul Fitr in Arab countries

We have sections about eid in usa, canada, india, iran, pakistan, indonesia, philippines, etc. but where are the arab one? Happy Eid!Nielswik(talk) 23:32, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

I was thinking the exact same thing. Arab section please.--DarkCyclone 21:19, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Eid ul-Fitr in the Gregorian Calendar

do we really need a seperate section for this? the information is mostly available in the Infobox and the Timing section already, and keeping changes synced between them seems redundant. --GoldPseudo 03:57, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eid ul Fitr in 2006

This section is completely POV - and I don't think it is needed in the article. We can't add a seperate section for every year. Ozzykhan 14:16, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

the section is also quoted directly from this article, so i'm removing it entirely. --GoldPseudo 04:41, 25 October 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Eid stamp

The U.S. Postal Service commemorated the observation of the holiday with a postage stamp: image at [2]. That image is kind of crappy and pixelated-- if a better image can be found, would it be a suitable addition to the article? Spikebrennan 22:32, 3 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] History Section

removed phrase: "More information please people. I use this website for pure research and this small amount is unacceptable" as commentary of this nature is not relevant to the subject of the page. this comment should have been posted in the discussion page or not at all.

Blueminneapolis 22:31, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] photographs/pictures

Hi everyone! Can anybody put photographs of eid celebration? Or atleast picture of Eid prayers? I would really love to see pictures of Eid Prayers in Delhi's Jame Masjid/Lahore's Badshahi Mosque/Dhaka's Baitul Muqarram Mosque. Will anybody help to insert such pictures in the article?

Hossain Akhtar Chowdhury 11:34, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] So when is it??

I get no sense at all from this article when Eid actually it. The link to Ramadan doesn't help (see my note over there). If Ramadan ends around the last week of October, then can someone confirm and add a note saying so, and that Eid will tend to be around then too? raining girl 10:42, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

See Eid ul-Fitr in the Gregorian Calendar section. Regards. → AA (talk • contribs) — 10:55, 18 July 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Eid in Java

i don't know if these infos are worth enough to be putted in the article, so i write them here first, i hope someone can confirm/fix these...

1. The Eid ul Fitr in Javanese language is "badha" or "riyoyo"(great day).
2. most Javanese people celebrate the Hari Raya Ied twice.
the first celebration day is the Badha/Lebaran/Hari Raya Idul Fitri, they celebrate it at the 1st day of shawwal.
and the second celebration day is called "Lebaran Ketupat", they usually celebrate the second one at the 8th day of shawwal, exactly a week after the first lebaran.
It is called Lebaran Ketupat, because most Javanese people still held the tradition to serve the ketupat (rice dumpling) at 8 syawal. Ketupat is served only at Eid ul Fitr festive, you virtually cannot find ketupat on the other days.

andry 10:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Plus an important thing: the "Mudik" tradition. "Mudik" loosely means travelling to their hometowns to reunite with families and friends. This tradition usually causes many problems around the Eid, such as overcrowded train, plane, ship, bus and another transportation means, causes traffic jams along the island's roads and highways. Look at this Jakarta Post's news archive about mudik.

Ali Akbar (talk) 08:46, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Prohpet (SAW)

I'm wondering if this is appropriate in the context of a neutral encyclopedia. I understand why devout Muslims pronounce peace at the mention of Muhammad, but it seems to me that it is pushing an overtly religious practice. It would be kind of like saying "Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ" or "Jesus Christ our Lord" at every mention of his name. I haven't changed it as I'm not sure of the policy debates that have taken place on articles related to Islam, but I'm throwing my own observation in as someone who just happened upon the article. -- jackturner3 (talk) 14:52, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Seconded, Wikipedia is not a place to praise any religion. If Richard Dawkins (Dup dor a'az Mubster) et al also can have their praises on each mention then The Prophet can have his. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.78.175.107 (talk) 22:06, 25 December 2007 (UTC)