Talk:Egyptian Revolution of 1952

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[edit] "1952 Revolution" vs. "Egyptian Revolution"

The title of the page, "1952 Revolution", is most curious given that the most commonly used term is the "Egyptian Revolution".

While not discounting the immense importance of the 1919 Revolution, even a cursory view of historical literature, and various media will reveal that "Egyptian Revolution" is the standard historical term for the revolution of 1952. This is an incontrovertible fact and not in any way Nasserist as one contributor falsely claimed. Both supporters and opponents of Gamal Abd-El-Nasser routinely refer to the "Egyptian Revolution", and the use of this term does not preclude discussion of any of the negative policies and consequences flowing from the Revolution.

Indeed, certainty of terms is a desirable prerequisite for an open and frank exposition of the negative aspects of the Revolution and the republican era, in addition to its effects in other parts of the Arab World and Africa. Supplanting the standard and accepted term for "1952 Revolution" fundamentally compromises the neutrality of the article and could have the effect of misinforming the reader.

The preference for "1952 Revolution" over "Egyptian Revolution" either stems from ignorance or from a biased personal political attitude. Such an approach compromises the neutrality of the article and the purpose for Wikipedia's existence.

Furthermore, it defies common sense to use the less used term as the title for the page as the average Wikipedia user would generally type in "Egyptian Revolution" in the search bar, and would then be left with no page (I myself, and many of my colleagues have experience of this).

Louse 08:29, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

The issue over the title of this page has been raised as a result of a question on the Humanities Desk. This important event in Egyptian history is, quite frankly, difficult to find under the present title. I suggest changing it to the 'July 23 Revolution' or the 'Egyptian Revolution of 1952', the latter for preference. Are there any objections to this? Clio the Muse 23:09, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

I was the person who (eventually) found this article and linked it on the Reference Desk, I meant to say something at the time about the article name which is the worst I can remember seeing in Wikipedia. The article should be changed to Egyptian Revolution of 1952 other revolutions follow this format so changing it shouldn't be contested. - X201 12:40, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I moved the article and redirected "Egyptian Revolution" here (1952 Revolution). --Ghirla^-трёп- 19:37, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I may be coming to this discussion a bit late, but I feel the need to mention that referring to this event as the "Egyptian Revolution" is contested, as Clio the Muse rightly predicted at the Humanities Reference Desk. I am referring BTW to the redirect, not the recent name change. I should also mention that I do not agree with the unsubstantiated claim that the most common name in Egypt is "Egyptian Revolution" as has been suggested in the beginning of this thread, but "July 23 Revolution" or sometimes simply "July Revolution". At any rate, I am going to create a disambiguation page for Egyptian Revolution to avoid the contentious redirect here. — Zerida 03:09, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

As an Egyptian myself, I have never heard any native referring to the 1952 revolution as "Egyptian Revolution", it is predominantly referred to as Zerida said: "23 July Revolution" or "July Revolution" for short, and on a smaller scale would be called "52 Revolution". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bbussal (talk • contribs) 12:20, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Another issue is the term "second revolution" that i have never heard of in Egypt, the first revolution is simply reffered to as "the Revolution of 19" while the 1952 coup is wrongly & widely reffered to as "the July Revolution" or simply "The Revolution". Sokkary (talk) 19:19, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Flag

Should include the Arab Liberation Flag, or whatever it was called... AnonMoos 03:01, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I added a UAR flag but I don't see where the Arab Liberation flag goes. Can we add some more images? RJFJR (talk) 15:44, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Neutrality

There is a neutrality tag on this page. Can anyone cite specific neutrality problems? (It seems pretty factual to me). RJFJR (talk) 15:43, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Calling a military coup a revolution is not pretty factual to me. a few officers overtaking a country by force at night is not exactly a revolution, its not the issue of wether it should be called 1952 Revolution or Egyptian Revolution that interests me, but the fact of it never being a true revolution in the first place and the ongoing brainwash of the Egyptian people to think of any military coup as a revolution is what worries me. calling it a revolution would mean it was based on public opinion rather than the Free Officers' opinion which is untrue, unfair and delusive. Sokkary (talk) 18:54, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

That seems somewhat ridiculous to me. If anything the Egyptian revolution is one of the few examples of what a revolution is (as opposed to the American revolution where it was more an evolution than a revolution) You have here the overthrow of a monarchy and the complete removal of the political structure that was in place, and the installment of a completely different form of government (and public opinion was and continues to be strongly in favor of said revolution) Nableezy (talk) 19:39, 9 May 2008 (UTC)