User talk:Edward Tremel

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[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia!

Hello Edward Tremel, and and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Thanks for dropping us a note at Wikipedia:New user log. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, add a question to the Village pump, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. (A note on process: Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date.)

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Again, welcome!     —ERcheck @ 00:20, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] American Beech, American Hornbeam, etc

Hi Edward - nice work! On American Beech, you'd added "The tree is monoecious, meaning that a single tree can self-pollinate to produce fruit"; this is not wholly true - all that monoecious means is that flowers of both sexes are produced on the same tree. It doesn't mean it can self-pollinate; like most plants with monoecious or perfect flowers, it has mechanisms to prevent self-pollination; pollination will only be successful with cross-pollination between two different plants, so as to prevent inbreeding. On American Hornbeam, can you verify from Rolls-Royce that they use it for the door panels? - it seems a little improbable that a UK-made car would use American rather than European Hornbeam. One last suggestion (re Manitoba Maple), for relatively short articles (like most species pages), it is best to stick to 3 or fewer headers, otherwise the page gets to look header-heavy and ugly (I find a useful guide is to average about 20 lines of text per header) - MPF 23:35, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about the inaccuracy - guess I don't know as much about botany as I thought I did. Regarding the headers, it seemed to me like it was a bad idea to have a second-level (===) header on a page without a first-level (==) header above it - sort of like having a Part Two without a Part One. That's why I changed the levels of the headers, at least (though I didn't have a very good reason for dividing the article into many small sections and you're quite right about that one); is there some Wikipedia guideline that says it's actually better to use lower-level headers without higher-level ones to contain them? Edward Tremel 10:26, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] School IP blocking

Hi, thanks for your cherry articles! So, I noticed your entry at Wikipedia:New user log. I'm pretty sure that school IP addresses aren't supposed to be blocked indefinitely. Obviously I don't know the details of the situation, but if you could place {{unblock}} on the IP talk page, you'd be doing your classmates a favor. Cheers, Melchoir 12:09, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I'm guessing it's doing Wikipedia a favor to keep the school's IP address blocked as this place (my school) is so full of boneheads that Wikipedia would probably be vandalized up the wazoo the minute school computers were allowed to edit it. If you look at the talk page for my school's shared IP, it's been blocked repeatedly for charges of vandalism. Unfortunately, what I initially said in the new user log actually wasn't true - even when I log in to my account (which has no warnings or anything), I still can't edit from a school computer because the IP is blocked. If an IP address is blocked, why can't you get around it by logging into an un-blocked account, since you're clearly a different person than the person with that IP? (I'll also post this question in the appropriate question board, but I thought I'd say it here in case you checked back.) Edward Tremel 16:42, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Copyvio?

I recently created an article on Dionýz Ilkovic, only to return a few days later and find it deleted. Looking around, the only option I seemed to have for finding out why was to look up the article in the Deletion Log. Doing this, however, returned only a single line indicating that someone called Jaranda had deleted it, and the word "copyvio" in parentheses. No further information was available. Now, since I'm not clueless, I'm guessing that "copyvio" means my article was deleted because Jaranda thought it violated a copyright, and I admit some of the material on that page was directly copied from a web page that is the first result if you Google Dionýz Ilkovic. However, I only did that (directly copied) after looking extensively through Wikipedia's policy pages and finding nothing regarding whether you should assume by default that all text is copyrighted, and looking on the site I copied from and finding no copyright notice anywhere. So I assumed, lacking any Wikipedia policy, that it was okay to copy text that didn't say it was copyrighted. But apparently it's not. Or am I misunderstanding the meaning of "copyvio"? Regardless, it would help if the Wikipedia policy said somewhere what to assume if you find some text on a webpage that doesn't appear to have a copyright anywhere on it. -- Edward Tremel 18:07, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

All work, whether they be paintings or text on websites, are protected by copyright unless the author explicitly releases those rights. In some jurisdictions, even this is not possible; so it is safe to assume that all work is copyrighted and unavailable for reuse unless the author is contacted or a notice declaring that the work is in the public domain/published under a free license in provided along with the work. As for clarifying the policy pages, I think that's a good idea - you might like to post a suggestion on the talk page of the relevant policy page, asking other editors their input. Cheers, Tangotango 18:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] help

check out WP:COPYVIO. If this does not help you put the helpme tag directly above your question and I or someone else will return. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 18:23, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] helpme

Hello, you used the {{helpme}} tag. How may I help you? When you've asked your question, please put the tag back so we know to check back. Alternatively, you can join the Wikipedia Bootcamp IRC channel to get real-time help. (Use the web-based client to get instant access.) —— Eagle (ask me for help) 18:10, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Whoops, I guess I didn't know how the helpme tag worked. I put it on this page after I'd already asked the question I wanted answered: the section titled "Copyvio?" directly above this. So it looks like next time I should put the tag on, wait for this message, then ask the question and put it back on. --Edward Tremel 18:16, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Close, but no cigar :) Easiest way is to put the helpme tag right above your question. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 18:19, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Oh. I thought you put it at the top of the page. Like I said, this is the first time I've used this. --Edward Tremel 18:22, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
no problem :) —— Eagle (ask me for help) 18:23, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bot-assisted announcements

Hi Edward! I think you might be interested in

User:AlexNewArtBot/PlantsSearchResult
Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants/New articles

Colchicum 23:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] HEY! Eddie ol' Pal!

You wouldn't happen to know what 1/29's Apush Homework was would you?

Um, hello to you too. Who are you anyway? On Wikipedia, it's customary to Sign your comments on talk pages. I can only guess that you must be someone else from APUSH, but I would wonder why you (or at least someone else using your IP address) edited my user page to say "WOW I am totally NOT the Biggest Dork who ever lived." Why would I feel inclined to help you after you do something like that? And anyway, why do you need to know the APUSH homework from over a month ago? I'm not going to answer your question, because I am rather disinclined to trust a person who puts insults on my user page and tries to remain anonymous when posting an odd question on my talk page. —Edward Tremel 10:48, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Dear Edward, that was Tyler Vosgerchian :) Now you can rage against the machine. Primeromundo 22:28, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
And is "Primeromundo" Tyler Vosgerchian's real account? Or is this someone else entirely who just happens to know what Tyler does on his computer? —Edward Tremel 00:07, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
This is not Tyler, but I do know that that was Tyler, not because I was there when he typed it but for other, undisclosed, possibly scrumptious reasons. Primeromundo 01:05, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] HEY

Hey Eddie,

Just want to say hello and introduce myself. And hey no one likes to be yelled at for questions they ask.

txholdem22

Well, hello, Mr. Texas Hold'em. As a matter of fact, I wasn't yelling at Tyler for asking a question, I was yelling at him for vandalizing my user page, a fact which I discovered when I looked at the edit history for the IP address that asked that question. --Edward Tremel 23:07, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Whoa Eddie, no need to get to defensive here, it was just a rebuttal to your rebuttal.
txholdem22

[edit] About the new edit.

Hey, Edward! I found your website and thought a lot of your "about me" section would be appropriate in your wikipedia user page. We share a lot of similar interests, despite your undying hatred for Alfonso Cuarón, who is an incredibly talented director. Maybe we can discuss his work sometime. Hope you appreciated my additions!

Thanks, cuaronlover

Hey to you too, Mr. Cuaronlover :-). I think it was quite funny the way you bolded certain words when copying the text from my website to my talk page...it reads kind of like an Uncyclopedia article XD . While I would love to argue with you about Cuarón the Moron (as well as add some more information from my website to my talk page, that was a good idea), I have a lot of homework to do and really shouldn't be on Wikipedia right now. TTFN —Edward Tremel 00:37, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WTF

Didn't I just post an edit here? If it goes away one more time, I'll find you and beat your ass.
FootballIsLife 20:40, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

I've taken the liberty of using WP:BB to change your userpage, Edward. Just hoping to better inform the people of what's really important. TTYL Primeromundo 22:03, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Up yours, Joe Miller. If you had actually bothered to read the Wikipedia policy you are erroneously waving about in the delusion that it justifies your vandalism, you would have seen this passage:
"It is also generally not recommended for you to edit another Wikipedian's user page."
I've reverted it to cuaronlover's version and I had better not see any more of this out of you. And you can shut up too, "FootballIsLife." It is completely justifiable to remove an edit that is insulting vandalism.—Edward Tremel 20:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Insulting vandalism or not, it's the truth. From that user page, and without even knowing you, I can tell your a nerd. You probably wear glasses, are extremely arroganr, stick your nose in places where it doesn't belong, and have no friends. I would be shocked if none of my assumptions were close. FootballIsLife 21:29, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
As a matter of fact, it does matter that it's insulting vandalism (whether or not you think it's the truth) because it is a Wikipedia policy not to tolerate personal attacks. I shall continue to remove any and all personal attacks left on my user talk page because that is the accepted behavior under the policy. —Edward Tremel 22:02, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Fine, you want to play that way? In fact, the article you linked to says to comment on the content, not the contributor. Which has been done here. I am merely commenting on the content of your user page. Thank you very much. FootballIsLife 22:11, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, you were commenting on the content of my user page. However, you were commenting on the content by insulting the contributor. Your exact words were "You deserve to have your damn brains beaten out," which clearly has nothing to do with the content of my user page and is directed at me as an individual. Therefore I would say that you were in violation of WP:NPA after all. —Edward Tremel 22:26, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
OK. I guess your right. I went a little too far with that first statement. I'd just had a bad day and didn't mean to take it out on you. However, I still agree with my other statements. Your still a nerd.FootballIsLife 22:33, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Username stealing

Hey Edward, I was silly and used the same password for a bunch of sites... I think somebody stole my password, cause they've been posting under my name, and it seems, screwing up your userpage :) I apologize for my stupidity and I've changed my password, so hopefully no more vandals. Primeromundo 22:30, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Okay...well, assuming your story is true (sorry if I sound a little paranoid but several people have been giving me a hard time on Wikipedia lately), your password was stolen by somebody who also knows me, because in the edit history where the vandalism was made the edit summary says "We all know its true Edward." And just to let you know the vandalism warnings on your talk page were put there before you posted this. —Edward Tremel 22:53, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Summer Biology Question

Hey Edward, Chapter 47 question #7 asks, in part, "What is the famous example of succession right here in our home state of Michigan?" Any ideas? Primeromundo 19:52, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Joe, I only said about three times in school that I was going to a summer camp at Case Western Reserve University through most of July. I'm writing this from there right now and I shouldn't even be doing so because I have homework I should be doing. I'll come back next week and only then will I look at the Biology questions for the first time. --Edward Tremel 20:36, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Well gee. Sorry your ten seconds is more valuable to you than other people's feelings. I've got the answer now anyway, so nevermind it. Primeromundo 02:03, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I don't consider my ten seconds more important than other people's feelings. At the time I wrote that I was already angry because the camp was quite fast-paced and stressful. Next time I'll wait to respond until I actually have the time (and the frame of mind) to do so, even if it means not responding for 3 weeks. —Edward Tremel 23:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
I would appreciate that. Primeromundo 21:36, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi

Hi from Steve Luckyz21 17:47, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi...you're Steve from cross-country, right? —Edward Tremel 11:46, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Temperate Deciduous Forest

I removed the speedy tag from this page. The page you wanted to move there should probably be merged into and/or redirected to the same page that this one already redirects to. Even if this is not the best option, it should be saved at temperate deciduous forest- we use sentence case in page titles, the second and subsequent words should only be capitalised if they are proper nouns. J Milburn 18:00, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Germany Invitation

Hello, Edward Tremel! I'd like to call your attention to the WikiProject Germany and the German-speaking Wikipedians' notice board. I hope their links, sub-projects and discussions are interesting and even helpful to you. If not, I hope that new ones will be.

--Zeitgespenst (talk) 22:51, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Edit War with Anonymous Editors

Hopefully I put this helpme tag in the right place; I had some issues with it before. I have a question for an administrator regarding the proper process for settling a rather unusual dispute. If you look at the edit history for DePauw University (and go back a page to get past all the Rovergirl88 edits), you'll see that several times since I first read the article I've put the "newsrelease" tag on the page - I explain why on that article's talk page. Every time, an anonymous editor has undid my edit to remove it and made no comment in either the edit summary or the talk page as to why they did so. Although all of the anonymous editors are different IP addresses, if you trace them you'll find that they all come from the DePauw University computer cluster. Evidently someone at that university objects to my claim that the article is written in an overly promotional tone and is confrontationally dealing with it by removing the newsrelease tag every time I put it on the page. Ordinarily I would take such a conflict to the user's talk page or request mediation, but since it is always an anonymous user and it is a different IP address every time this doesn't really seem feasible - which IP address's talk page would I go to, or which one would I ask for mediation with? Without those options, what do you think I should do about this? —Edward Tremel (talk) 22:45, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Edward. You have a few options. First is to start on the article talk page, which I see you've already done. I know a few days has already gone by, but maybe ping your posting again and see what happens.
Your next step would be to bring this to WP:RPP and request semi-protection, but make sure you have your evidence at hand. Gather a few diffs (both your edits and the IP edits), and show that you've attempted resolution on the talk page. Look at other requests for PP and see what the standard type of format is, and successful or denied reasons; that'll give you a good idea how to submit your request. If the reviewing admin agrees, the page won't be editable by IP editors. Semi-page protection usually is usually a finite period of time, but after protection lapses, you can re-request it if need be. Just mention previous page protections on any subsequent requests.
I'd also look at WP:ANI, where you can post for admin intervention. If semi-PP is denied, I'd go here, but there may not be much that they can do. Since it's a school IP address range, admins are generally hesitant to block those types of IPs. Yngvarr 23:17, 21 February 2008 (UTC)