Talk:Edward O'Rourke

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[edit] Edward O'Rourke - Polish only ?

Edward O'Rourke was from an Irish family, who moved to Eastern Europe. Edward was born in Belarus, lived, studied and worked in a number of European countries for 63 years. Because of war times he - became stateless - and therefore took on Polish citizenship in 1939, he died in 1943, so he was Polish for 4 years versus his previous 63 years. Some people at wikipedia insist on him being labled as Polish only

These are by the way the same people, who declare everyone with a Polish name to be Polish just because of the name, even if they were born or lived in other countries for generations.

Does everyone agree, that O"Rourke was Polish only? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.133.64.78 (talk) 16:59, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

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When did the O'Rourke family move to Poland? Danzig is not a Polish name either, but when part of Royal Prussia, Danzig was Polish. Space Cadet (talk) 22:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

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The O'Rourke Family never moved to Poland. They moved to Belarus, the family was established in the Belarus community, without forgetting that they were an Irish family. (Obviously, they never changed their name). O"Rourke was educated specifically with European education, not nationalistic. He served years in the Baltic community. He never lived in Poland. Danzig was also not Polish, as you claim, but it had connections to the Polish- Lithuanian king/crown, which itself was much/most of the time not Polish. Back to O'Rourke, the only time he was 'Polish' was the 4 years of his life and that was due to war neccessity.

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When did they moved to Belarus then? Space Cadet (talk) 23:08, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
Time up! They never moved to Belarus either, because prior to Edward's birth there never was such country as Belarus. Space Cadet (talk) 13:43, 22 February 2008 (UTC) ---

Space Cadet, or anyone else who insists that O'Rourke was only Polish.

Please be so kind and point out to me exactly where it says in the Polish Wikipedia on [http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_O%27Rourke Edward O'Rourke, that he was only Polish -thanks MfG 22 Feb 2008

Right at the top:
Edward Aleksander Władysław O'Rourke (ur. 26 października 1876 w Basinie, wówczas w guberni mińskiej, zm. 27 czerwca 1943 w Rzymie) – biskup gdański, hrabia rosyjski, polski duchowny katolicki, biskup Wolnego Miasta Gdańska.
Now be so kind and tell me when the O'Rourkes moved to Eastern Europe. Space Cadet (talk) 14:12, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Answering myself: Brian O'Rourke of Gloncorick went on exile to France in 1688. His grandson Cornelius was a general in Russian army. He started two lines of O'Rourkes: one germanized, then russified, settled in Livland; the other one polonized, settled in Grand Duchy of Lithuania (today Belarus). Edward, of course, comes from the second one. Space Cadet (talk) 21:55, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

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Space Cadet and all who keep insisting that Edward O'Rourke was Polish (only)

The changes in article Edward O'Rourke are self-explanatory], when you read the links. Also read all the info on www.google,com on O'Rourke family. Apparently Space Cadet, you did not do that and you just keep blindly reverting to incorrect info. So please do me a favour and read and think b e f o r e you blindly input wrong info.

The fact that the Polish Wikipedia does n o t state O'Rourke, Polska/Polski or Polska O'Rourke or something of that nature, but only much later after :biskup gdanski, hrabia rosyjski" states polski whatever, that fact should have immediately given you pause- reason to check more thoroughly about his status. Also, if he got the formality Polish citizenship in 1939, when he moved to Rome , where he died in 1943, that obviously means, that he was not Polish. Anyway, have a nice day. MfG 25 Feb 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.133.64.78 (talk) 22:09, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Polish WIKI says "Polish cleric catholic" and it still does not give me any "pause - reason" and it does not mean that he wasn't Polish. Born in the nobility family Polish for generations, finally got the citizenship in 1939. Space Cadet (talk) 01:15, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
P.S. How dare you? I ALWAYS read and think b e f o r e I blindly input wrong info!