Talk:Educational stages

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[edit] More international!

I added some information I've found about British systems, but I know there's a lot more variety out there even just in the English-speaking world. This article needs a lot of work in this regard. /blahedo (t) 20:53, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Seconded. I also added subheadings to further encourage this. N Nuri 06:59, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Correspondence between British and North American numbering

I just reverted some edits that claim that British "Reception" corresponds to North American "1st grade" and "year 11" to "12th grade". This contradicts everything I've been able to find on the subject, including the very concise table linked from the main page, which says that 1st grade is "year 2" and 12th grade "year 13". While it depends to some extent on location and circumstance, most Americans start school at Kindergarten at age 5, turning 6 some time during the school year or the following summer; their 12th grade/grade 12 year sees them turning 18. If it is not the case that these descriptions correspond best to "year 1" and "year 13" respectively, please cite your sources here. /blahedo (t) 21:51, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Differences in UK Schools

The system in Scotland is NOT the same as in England / Wales - in Scotland you have Primary School (ages 5 to 12, referred to as "primary 1" to "primary 7") and Secondary (12 to 16/18, referred to as "1st year" to "6th year". Some drop out at age 16, making "4th year" their last year at school).

I know this as someone who has been throught the Scottish education system, but cannot provide citations, so I do not feel it appropriate to edit the article.

StuartCarter 15:55, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Differences in UK Schools

The system in Scotland is NOT the same as in England / Wales - in Scotland you have Pruimary School (ages 5 to 12, referred to as "primary 1" to "primary 7") and Secondary (12 to 16/18, referred to as "1st year" to "6th year". Some drop out at 16, making "4th year" their last year at school).

I know this as someone who has been throught the Scottish education system, but cannot provide citations, so I do not feel it appropriate to edit the article.

StuartCarter 15:55, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] more countries

added some countries. Made some reference to France, but I don't really know about it. also put alphabetical order so US is now at the bottom. 203.218.86.162 07:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kindergarten

I don't know if this goes on in the US or other parts of Canada, but in Ontario kindergarten is divided into JKG (Junior Kindergarten) and SKG (Senior Kindergarten) and people usually start kindergarten at 4. Do you think it should be seperate on the chart?

[edit] Better explanations required

This article needs a lot of work. Could people provide better explanations of the systems in their own countries, bearing in mind that people in other countries are not familiar with the local terminology. For example, I cannot make any sense of the American/Canadian grade system. There seem to be wide variations in ages within grades. Do different US states have different systems? Do you have to reach a certain level of education before you go up to the next grade or is the system purely based on age? Dahliarose 11:34, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rename page?

I wonder if it might be best to rename this article "Educational years or stages" rather than grade level. America and Canada seem to be the only countries which use the grade system which rather makes a nonsense of the title. Dahliarose 22:35, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I totally agree with you. In fact that's the first time I ever agreed with you. Grade level does sound to US-centric. (MrsMacMan 22:43, 14 June 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Requested move

[edit] Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
  • Support - as nominator. It might be best to rename this article "Educational stages" rather than grade level. America and Canada seem to be the only countries which use the grade system which rather makes a nonsense of the title. I have listed this page on Wikipedia:Requested moves. -- (MrsMacMan 22:51, 14 June 2007 (UTC))
  • Support. "Educational progression", perhaps? As a Canuck I only dealt with grades, but seeing as they only seem to be used here and the US, changing to a more neutral title would help counter bias. --SigPig |SEND - OVER 02:40, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Support as per my original suggestion. Dahliarose 08:36, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Support – "Educational stages" is my pick, both to avoid North American bias and apply a term that has more clarity. It would be helpful to learn more opinions of those in other countries. —Adavidb 22:37, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

Any additional comments: ←(MrsMacMan 22:46, 14 June 2007 (UTC))