Talk:Education in New Zealand

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[edit] Weasel Words

Because I think [this change] might be a bit controversial, I'll post it here. I've just removed the following sentences from the article:

This is widely believed to increase student debt, funded by the New Zealand taxpayers. Many sources (including leading financial planners) are suggesting that students maximise their 'free' debt by drawing all they possibly can (course costs, course-related costs and living allowance).

My main problem with this is that it's very, very weasely - 'widely believed' by whom? Who are the 'many sources' and the 'leading financial planners'? If it's attributed it becomes a statement of fact, but at the moment it's POV. If anyone has a problem with this I encourage them to discuss it here, in the talk page. --Dom 12:14, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Education infobox

I created a template, Template:Education infobox which can give a quick at a glance demographics table for education articles. See its implementation at Education in the United States and feel free to help improve the template.--naryathegreat | (talk) 01:00, August 7, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] State schools don't ask for fees!

The current page says:

  • However, most schools also ask for a "donation" from parents and often call this a school fee or a "parental contribution"

Note: however not contributing to this "donation" can be costly for parents especially when schools go to debt collection agencies to get this so call donation.

No state school calls this a fee, or more accurately, no state school is supposed to call this a fee. The following is taken from the April 2004 Supplementary Review Report on Rangitoto College [1]

'Other issues arising during the course of this review

· Use of the term ‘school fees’. The reference to school fees in the prospectus and other school documents contravenes s3 of the Education Act 1989, which entitles every person who is not a foreign fee-paying student to free enrolment and free education at any state school during the period between their 5th and 19th birthdays. In order to comply with the Act, the board should delete the word “fees” from its prospectus and from other documentation.'

So, I changed this to:

  • However, most schools also ask for a "voluntary donation" from parents, informally known as "school fees" or a "parental contribution".

Perhaps there should also be a link to [2], but the opening sentence is not really the place to discuss the size of these "donations", nor how "voluntary" they are. Neil Leslie 10:05, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Standard/Junior/Forms

When was the old system replaced by the new? Could someone add that in to the article? It simply says "recently", and I do not feel that that is precise enough. samwaltz 10:39, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

IIRC it was introduced around 1998 or so. Though it didn't really reach widespread use until ~5 years later and many places still use "year x (form z)" or "form z (year x)". No refs though - this is just going by memory 150.203.19.142 02:15, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

And what about the "older" system. Junior 1 and 2 used to be covered by four levels, Primer 1 to Primer 4. Pupils would generally spend two years going through these levels, although I'm not sure what the normal approach was to achieve that. Does anyone know when that change (from Primers to Juniors) was made? Pedrocelli 01:05, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Industry Training Organisations, Apprenticeships and On the Job Training

This article does not cover the role of Industry Training Organisations and Apprenticeships in the education sector. Also not covered is the post-graduation role of Professional Bodies, such as Doctors, Nurses, Lawyers, Accountants, Engineers, etc. have in upskilling recent graduates to be totally work competent through on-the-job training. These organisations are heavily involved in having a say about what tertiary institutions teach and the requsite standards that students need to achieve. The role of workplace training and assessment for the trades and business is also not covered, even though NZQA sets the educational standards in these areas. Education in New Zealand is life long and doesn't stop at the front door of the classroom. -- Cameron Dewe 02:18, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Types of school

It should probably be mentioned that quite a few primary schools go up to form 2, whatever that's called now. --Helenalex 23:04, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Its called year 8 (form 2)

[edit] School year

What are the dates of the new zealand school year? (for example in the uk the school year runs from early september to mid july with breaks at christmas and easter) Pedgeth (talk) 00:59, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

The New Zealand school year runs from February 7th through to December 19, 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.80.123.38 (talk) 22:38, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Huh?

In my school, (which is an area school), middle school goes from Year 7 to Year 9. (And yes, I do live in New Zealand!). Is the article wrong, or is my school the exeption and not the rule? Smartguy777 (talk) 03:26, 3 April 2008 (UTC).


[edit] Kura Kaupapa Māori

There's nothing about these in the article - a bit of an omission, surely, since these are provided for under the Education Act 1989 and there are over 60 of them. Anyway I have started an article Kura Kaupapa Māori Kahuroa (talk) 23:00, 24 May 2008 (UTC)