Talk:Edmund Crouchback, 1st Earl of Lancaster

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Burkes peerage (http://www.burkes-peerage.net/sites/common/sitepages/roking04.asp) recommends 1278 as birthdate for Thomas

The correct name of the kingdom is simply the Kingdom of Sicily, Apulia was already part of the kingdom, since it included the whole of southern Italy right up to the papal states. Why is Apulia mentioned separately? Why not also mention separately Calabria, Capua, Naples and other bits of the mainland part of the kingdom? ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ - (waarom? jus'b'coz!) 05:06, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hunchback?

I've removed Category:Hunchbacks from this article. I'm not a scholar of history myself, but since the article didn't mention anything about Edmund's having a hunchback, I went looking for support on Google. Apparently the story of Edmund's deformity was current in the 16th or 17th century, and at that time the epithet "crouchback" was interpreted to mean "hunchback". However, there seems to be no preponderance of evidence one way or the other as to whether the story was told because it was true, or put about falsely because of some kind of intrigue involving John of Gaunt and line of descent.[1][2] (Personally, I like the crouch="cross" derivation, because it's more interesting.) I wish someone with more knowledge in the field would expand this article. --Quuxplusone 08:45, 9 June 2007 (UTC)