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Contents 1 Pov on title- Kerela nadvathul mujahideen 2 The Butterfly Effect oversided plot 3 Vandalism or edit war? 4 Using image from French Wikipedia 5 Buddhism 6 Da Costa's syndrome take #2 7 Assistance on Biography article 8 Halo:combat evolved 9 Brian Davison (Drummer) 10 External Link question 11 can I go back in years to find a certain article?? 12 Can't find re-submitted article 13 De Cheezy Fanito's 14 Wikilinking subscript

Pov on title- Kerela nadvathul mujahideen

Hi,

It like to keep this simple. The issue under discussion involves a religious movement which recently had a split. However, i am able to resolve the issue between the two split groups. But the problem arises from a third group which keeps vandalising the article in a demeaning manner( current status) The group which brandishes extreme islamo facist ideas is currently threatning what youngsters look up on the net or wikipedia. If you check the article presently, it appears very self demeaning. Thus i would like to know what can be done? We can get a common ground between the two parties but will need to keep the article locked afterwards and can also include criticisms in the article but not as the main title. Is that possible?!...thank you

joeJoeblckw (talk) 00:31, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

The Butterfly Effect oversided plot

Apparently a number of editors wish to ignore the policy WP:PLOT and continue to let the oversized plot section persist. A few editors feel that the plot section is necessary because the storyline is "complicated;" time travel is involved and multiple timelines are introduced. I have noted this fact and suggested that they extend a plot summary that is already in the article to an extent that sufficiently explains the plot to those who don't understand. The editors still persist to keep the bad plot section up though, with almost no notable edits to it. I would revert again, but I may violate the WP:3RR so I have come here. ♣ Klptyzm ^{Chat wit' me § Contributions} ♣ 04:23, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for coming here for help. Please do not use reverting to resolve things. I see you've joined a conversation on the talk page, my suggestion is to continue working the issue there. I've added some text I hope will help. ~a (user • talk • contribs) 05:45, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism or edit war?

A reference that I added to the following article has been removed repeatedly by an anonymous editor (IP121.72.145.82): Getting_Things_Done (history). Yesterday I left a warning on the anonymous users talk page. He calls my addition spam (which it is clearly not) and refuses discussion on the issue. I consider this person's behaviour vandalism but found that the Wikipedia definition of vandalism is rather strict. Therefore I ask your advice on proper action. Thank you! Lausianne (talk) 08:12, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello, I looked at the edit history and it's a little confusing. Am I right in thinking that you're trying to cite the priacta.com page as a source for the "over 100" statement, and the anon IP is reverting that? There could be a concern about citing a commercial site that appears to be selling some of the software mentioned, I suppose. Is there another way of supporting the statistic? btw, it appears that neither you nor your IP co-editor have made many edits to anything but this page, so other editors here might be somewhat sceptical of any claims to neutrality from either of you. That doesn't mean you're not neutral, only that it might be harder to convince others.

The usual solution to this is to take it to the talk page. Neither of you has been using edit summaries beyond "Undid ..." so it might be helpful here to try to understand why you're reverting each other. Perhaps that's worth a try here? --AndrewHowse (talk) 19:43, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello Andrew. Thanks for your comments. Yes, I did add the priacta page as a source for the over 100 statement. Not only for that, but I think that there should be a link to such a list anyway. As I understand, the priacta list used to be on Wikipedia and was removed for some policy reasons that we don't need to discuss here. (Although there are several other software lists on WP, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_statistical_packages, e.g.)

There are of course several lists of GTD software on the web. I added a link to this particular list, because I think it is the best quality and therefore most useful list. Just to support the statistic, any list would be good enough if it has just enough relevant and up to date entries.

Priacta is a commercial site and they do offer one GTD program, as far as I know. What I care about is whether this fact influences the general quality of the list or by creating a bias of some kind. I don't think that is the case here. (A quick check on Google search for 'gtd software list': 235k hits, #1 WP, #2 Priacta. The list does not need promotion.)

I do not claim that I am neutral myself, as my own software (freeware) is on the priacta list, too. My software is on several other lists as well. Therefore, and in the interest of the best quality for the article, I don't mind which site is cited, and I agree that the best way would be to find the best citation in an open discussion. If anyone has a better suggestion for a citation, fine.

If the anonymous editor agreed as well, there would be no problem. Since he has shown no interest in a discussion, keeps deleting the link without giving a justified reason or alternative, and neglected the 3R rule (I admit having been close to do the same), in my opinion he should be at least be officially warned if not banned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lausianne (talk • contribs) 15:30, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

He or she has various messages at his/her talk page, but that doesn't always have the impact one might hope for. Perhaps you should just leave it be for a day or two, wait for the IP user to get bored, and then come back to it. Banning IP addresses is tricky because it has the potential to affect other innocent users if it's a shared IP, or a shared facility in a library, school, etc. --AndrewHowse (talk) 15:46, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I can see what you're trying to cite there, as the page is keeping count. You might consider going to Requests for Page Protection and ask for it to be semi-protected a week. That might be enough to make them lay off of it. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 14:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, Jeremy, for coming in. I took a break for three days, then added the link again. The guy reverted it immediately (plus time shift to NZ). So I will follow your suggestion and ask for protection. Lausianne (talk) 06:46, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Using image from French Wikipedia

There is a nice image of Alexandre-Étienne Choron in the fr.Wikipedia article on him. I have just translated the article for en.Wikipedia, but can't figure out how to link to the French image. Please let me know what to do or just add the correct line of code to the article, whichever is easier. Many thanks. bmwilcox —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bmwilcox (talk • contribs) 03:53, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Since it's public-domain, it can be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, allowing its use on any Wikimedia project with a simple wikilink. I'll be happy to upload it there if you like. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 04:28, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Buddhism

Please help me in settling the NPOV dispute for the first three paragraphs of article titled "Buddhism". I used the most neutral and widely accepted info for this intro yet other editors disagree and have reverted it twice. Pasta4470 (talk) 16:28, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I notice that neither you nor the other editor involved in the dispute are citing reliable sources for your perspectives, but instead seem to be relying on personal knowledge. I believe that this is the core of the problem. We shouldn't write articles based on what our editors think, we should write articles based on what our sources think. Perhaps you could find some sources to back up your position? You may even find that in some ways they back up his, this is pretty normal and would also lead to improvement of the article and settling the dispute. Hope that helps! Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 16:52, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Da Costa's syndrome take #2

• Da Costa's syndrome (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
• Posturewriter (talk · contribs)

Assistant Editors; The COI issue of last month relating to the Da Costa's syndrome page has been renewed again so I would like assistance from NPOV editors, particularly history editors, relating to 5000 words of criticism of me and my contributions on the WP:COIN and the discussion and User Talk pages in the past 12 days. Could you please ensure policies are being complied with appropriately. Most of the research history of J.M.Da Costa, Sir James MacKenzie, Sir Thomas Lewis, Paul Wood O.B.E., Mandel Cohen, and Paul Dudley White has been deleted from the article page as cruft. Posturewriter (talk)posturewriter

Assistance on Biography article

Requesting assistance on Mary Pallant biography. Vandalism from an opponent candidate's campaign has added incorrect content. Content was removed. Specifically, Pallant never filed for the 2006 election, although she had considered it. Would like article watched for possible banning IP address of perpetrator/s. The opponent's campaign has vandalized other internet biographies regarding Pallant. Expecting more to come as the primary nears. Current perpetrator has IP address of 97.94.110.201, however may also use 97.94.110.164 Thank you for advice or assistance.--Jurnei (talk) 21:53, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Halo:combat evolved

we need some help keeping the page like an encyclopedia, not an tips and tricks encyclopedia. !Mjriley! (talk) 02:42, 26 May 2008 (UTC)!Mjriley!

Brian Davison (Drummer)

I am the surviving partner of Brian, and would like to post a 'true' obituary, since those in the national press contain ommissions and inaccuracies - perhaps the text I posted yesterday is too long?

Please help.

here– is the text again: <text removed> Life-Partner of 29 years to Brian Sloo Cottages May 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Granny Ya-Ya (talk • contribs) 11:49, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Mrs. Davison. I truly understand your wish to post this content somewhere. It might even be considered a part of the grieving process, to want to tell everyone the real story of someone who's suddenly gone and you miss terribly and whose full story is not being represented in the press (or is being inaccurately depicted). But, and it a big but, you can't do this here. Wikipedia is just not the correct place for this material. I 100% know based on you post that you are his widow and know of what you speak but that is irrelevant for purposes of an encyclopedia. Our content must be that of a tertiary source—by definition it must come from a synthesis of material already published in reliable sources. Sorry for the bad news, and sorry for your loss.--68.237.236.152 (talk) 12:28, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

External Link question

I am an admin of the Fn Forum - a discussion forum about weapons made by the FNH company. We are an OFFICIAL forum, actually sponsored by the company itself. They have provided some financial backing to us, and also participate on our forum.

There are several entries on Wikipedia for their various firearms. In the past - our site ( www.fnforum.net )has been listed under some of the various FN weapon entries. I noticed that we were no longer listed - And I re-added us today.

Since then, the user "Koalorka" has been removing my link as an "External Link," and he is stating that it is not allowed. As we have over 6000 members at the moment, and also are the source of official FNH information (being released on our site) - I think it is entirely fair to include our link.

Please give me some advice on how to proceed. --Mistershipwreck (talk) 04:09, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

As you are an admin of the forum, it would appear that you have a conflict of interest in the matter. The way we recommend proceeding in such a case is to suggest the link on the talk page of the article(s) you believe it would be appropriate and helpful for, and state how it passes our external link guidelines. Other editors who are not burdened by conflict of interest may then choose to use the link, if it would in fact be helpful to the article. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 05:11, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

can I go back in years to find a certain article??

I'm looking for a specific article that was written and I would like to know if I can type in a name and all the articles will up up on that subject...

(sorry for the spelling) lol

Thanks Dori—

You can use the Wikipedia search box to look for a particular word or phrase; if there is an article with that exact name then you'll get the article and otherwise you'll get some close matches. You can also use Google - type "subject site:en.wikipedia.org" to get all references to 'subject' on the English-language Wikipedia. If you need more specific help then please post again here with a more specific question. --AndrewHowse (talk) 13:39, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Can't find re-submitted article

Hi, Last night I revised my previously deleted article and clicked "save page" once done editing it. However, this morning when I put the title of the article "Saloon Doors Emporium" into Wikipedia's search window, the article did not come up. Is there something more I need to do? Thanks, Curt --Q12345q (talk) 14:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I just found it in your user space, at User:Q12345q/Saloon Doors Emporium. It's not in the main article space, because it was deleted and I think you've talked to User:Jonny-mt about that. You didn't ask, but I took a quick look anyway and I don't think it meets Wikipedia's standards for inclusion, primarily notability and verifiability. So, if you moved the page into article space again, it would likely get speedily deleted again. The best thing might be to read Wikipedia's 5 pillars and then you'll have a good sense of what ti would take to get an article included. If your subject doesn't qualify, that's OK. Have a look around and you'll soon find something else to catch your interest. Cheers, --AndrewHowse (talk) 15:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

De Cheezy Fanito's

I need some one to do some research on De Cheezy Fanito's and add the info to the article named De Cheezy Fanito's because I only have my psp to use and it sucks please help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Armordcrab (talk • contribs) 03:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

De Cheezy Fanito's was speedy deleted G1. Not unreasonably so, based on the cached version at Google. --AndrewHowse (talk) 17:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikilinking subscript

I am trying to wikilink The O2 in an article. If you click on the article you will notice that its name is The O₂, which works fine... However when I put the two brackets for wikilinking either side it doesn't link it to the article. I shall demonstrate below.

What's up with [[The O₂]]?

If this isn't the relative place to report this then please let me know and I shall ask it elsewhere. Any help appreciated! bsrboy (talk) 20:20, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

The trick to this is to distinguish between (i) the name of the page and (ii) the way that name is displayed. The name is The O2 and that link works fine. It's displayed as 'O₂'. If you want to link to it and display it with the subscripted form, then you'll need a piped link, and it'll be a lot like this [[The O2|The O₂]], which will display as The O₂. OK? --AndrewHowse (talk) 20:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! I think I already tried that, but I guess I must've done something wrong. bsrboy (talk) 21:14, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Looks like it worked now. --AndrewHowse (talk) 01:40, 5 June 2008 (UTC)