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  • "Their debut album The Back Room was released 25 July 2005, to critical acclaim, and broke sales records" - Which records are these? Best selling album that sounds like Joy Division in 2005? I guess that counts Giveitallforcheese 23:10, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Earlier I added a tidbit about the song Munich being on the videogame Saint's Row. This is surely a step in the right direction for them, right? Well, now it's gone....I'm putting it back and wondering why it was removed.--Dil337
  • This should not be the top hit when one searchs on Editors. There are many prominent editors and substantial categories of editors profiled on Wikipedia. Pleasantville 19:45, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
    • That's why there's a disambiguation page linked at the beginning of the article. Want to point to these prominent editors? Link to the aforementioned categories in that same bit. But this should be the first hit for "editors" because, well, that's their name and the general concept of an editor is covered under "editor". Drjayphd (talk) 06:49, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Editors thebackroom.jpg

Image:Editors thebackroom.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Editors-logo.png

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BetacommandBot 09:03, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dates

Melvo, the dates must be in the appropriate wiki format, be it "[[mmmm d]], [[yyyy]]" or "[[d mmmm]] [[yyyy]]". The article as it stood had a mix of these formats, which is not allowed per our MOS, and poorly formed versions that omitted some of the links. The use of the second style shown above is preferred here because it is an article about a band from Britain. violet/riga (t) 16:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GAN unsuccessful

Sorry, a few too many issues for now. Hopefully these notes will help improve - give me a yell to take another look!

  • The infobox image caption could be more descriptive Y Done
  • The lead should probably be split into 2 paragraphs - check out some other band FAs like Powderfinger and Silverchair for ideas Y Done
  • Please move all free images to Wikimedia Commons (I can help if needed) Y Done
  • First sentence should say when they formed Y Done
  • References need better formatting. Try {{cite web}} and be sure to fill out accessdate and publisher, at least Y Done
  • "The band were not always known by their current name," - not really needed, as talking about original names implies this. Y Done
  • "tracks Come Share The View and Forest Fire." - titles of songs should be in "quotation marks" (albums go in italics) Y Done
  • Try and use their biography on their website less, and other sources more Y Done
  • "Onemusic Unsigned and received very good reviews." - what's Onemusic, and do you have a source other than the website call these reviews "very good" Y Done
  • "They then changed the line-up" - how? Who left, etc.? Y Done

There are issues with prose and referencing throughout...try and give the article a good read through and see what else you find. I'd be happy to take another look after you've done some work on it. Good luck, dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 09:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

I've now resolved all the issues you have raised and I shall be renominating it proptly.Wikipéire (talk) 18:28, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GAN on hold

Here I am again! :)

  • "Editors are a British indie rock band from Birmingham" - bands are generally singular, so "is", not "are"
"Are" is correct in British English. WesleyDodds (talk) 11:13, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Learn something new every day... dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 07:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
  • "but quickly realised it was taken" - the "quickly" isn't needed
removed. I've also restructured the sentence.Wikipéire (talk) 15:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Short paragraphs in the Formation Years (2000-2004) section - expand/merge?
I've expanded this section by adding more information.Wikipéire (talk) 15:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  • "followed in April of that year " - don't need to wlink the month, only do so if you have the exact date (eg. 6 April)
  • "After re-issuing "Bullets"" - you've already wlinked the song, only need to do so once
  • Same with Munich next paragraph
unwlinked all those.Wikipéire (talk) 15:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  • "As evidence of the buzz the band had created in America, they played influential festivals in 2006 such as Coachella and Lollapalooza." this needs a ref
restructured sentence and added a ref.Wikipéire (talk) 15:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  • "Editors at the Eurockéennes 2007" - I only see one person; say who it is
added description.Wikipéire (talk) 15:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Ease up with quoting in the An End Has a Start (2007–2008) section - you should only really use one major quote, if that
removed second quote.Wikipéire (talk) 15:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  • That section in general could do with more sourcing...ends of paragraphs, and stuff like that
added about 4 or 5 new refs.Wikipéire (talk) 15:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  • "the band's best ever single result outside of the UK." - highest charting, not best
changed.Wikipéire (talk) 15:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  • "ollowing their first number, "Bones", Tom Smith said" - you've wlinked Bones before...check the whole article for this sort of thing
  • "Tom Smith announced that the band would be releasing "Bones" as the final single." - but you've already mentioned them releasing other singles...how is it the first (also, delink it)
removed the earlier time "bones" was mentioned so this wlink is needed. but have removed all the others which are done twice. It doesn't say first it says last.Wikipéire (talk) 15:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
You're right...why cant I read...?
  • Refer to him as "Smith", rather than "Tom Smith", and the same for other people, throughout
done to a certain extent. first names were needed in 1 or 2 cases throughout the piece.Wikipéire (talk) 15:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, that looks fine. dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 07:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
  • Fansites rarely make useful external links
there's only 1 ref on a low importance piece of info.Wikipéire (talk) 15:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Leave a note on my talk page when done. Cheers, dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 04:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Well done; nice work...now for some boilerplate...!

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Cheers, dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 07:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)