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1 Sandbox template test
2 Excessive plot detail
3 That's My Bush plot detail
4 Evidence presented by edgarde
5 Templates
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[edit] Sandbox template test

[edit] Excessive plot detail

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[edit] That's My Bush plot detail

Thank you for editing Wikipedia. One or more of your edits to That's My Bush have been reverted because they are excessive plot detail. Treatment of storylines from a fictional work as if they comprise a historical account is "in-universe", and should be avoided.

He resented foreigners occupying his country, but he resented it even more when the U.S. failed to secure Iraq.

SHORT

to see you suffer
Family Guy character

Oppose / edg ☺ ☭ 06:10, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Support / edg ☺ ☭ 06:10, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Note: this is not the prescribed format. Better not try it.

[edit] Evidence presented by edgarde

A summary can be found in my statement.

[edit] POV linkage by Mr. Knodel

Daniel E. Knodel's edits in Sex tourism#External_links are consistent with a policy of pro- sex tourism promotional POV, adding links that seem like good PR ^diff ^diff, and removing links that cast an unfavorable light.

[edit] Deletion of child prostitution links

Daniel E. Knodel deleted links critical of sex tourism involving children ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff, with Edit summaries suggesting it were a separate, unrelated topic. Even links not specific but mentioning child sex tourism.

[edit] Segregation of unfavorable links into "Child sex tourism"

When this became untenable ^diff, Daniel E. Knodel created ^diff an External links subheading for "Child sex tourism", to which he moves links about Sex tourism that include information about "Child sex tourism". This favors his POV because references critical of Sex tourism often mention young sex workers, leaving only very sunny (if insubstantial) links in the "Sex tourism" section.

I explained why this was a bad idea here ^diff. Daniel E. Knodel reinstated anyway ^diff ^diff.

[edit] John Hopkins Protection Project

Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies' site contains two lengthy articles specificly on "Sex tourism"[1][2], plus more on related topics. A site search for "Sex tourism" gets 114 hits. They are not flattering however to Daniel E. Knodel's POV.

One of Daniel E. Knodel's favorite links to delete ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff.

I protested ^diff this deletion, but Daniel E. Knodel continues to delete the link ^diff ^diff unexplained, as part of other reversions. He explains on this Evidence page^diff.

Daniel E. Knodel has not restored John Hopkins to the current hybrid page he made "posting all avaliable content under review"^diff.

[edit] POV edits by Mr. Knodel

[edit] "Child sex tourism" distinction

Note how Daniel E. Knodel's External Link deletions classify "Child sex tourism" as not "Sex tourism", rather than as a subset of sex tourism.

Daniel E. Knodel overwrites an intro paragraph on child prostitution ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff preferring variants of:

Often the term "sex tourism" is mistakenly interchanged with the term "child sex tourism". A tourist who has sex with a child prostitute possibly commits a crime against international law, in addition to the host country, and the country that the tourist is a citizen of. The term "child" is often used as defined by international law and refers to any person below the age of consent.

... typically removing mention of law enforcement difficulties.

In Edit summaries, Daniel E. Knodel calls this distinction from "child sex tourism".

The difference between sex tourism and child sex tourism is self-evident for readers with even minimal english literacy; I protested this on the Talk page ^diff. Daniel E. Knodel hasn't provided references on this alleged confusion.

It seems this attempt isn't to prevent sex tourism from being confused with child sex tourism, but to prevent it from being associated with child sex tourism. This would be PR, and not encyclopedic in light of much of the available research (notably in links Daniel E. Knodel deletes from this article).

[edit] Paragraph listing bad effects

When Daniel E. Knodel restores the above "distinction" paragraph, he usually removes a list of common issues with sex tourism ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff

Current version of the paragraph Daniel E. Knodel deletes:

The United Nations opposes sex tourism citing health, social and cultural consequences for both tourist home countries and destination countries, especially in situations exploiting gender, age, social and economic inequalities in sex tourism destinations.^[3][4][5]

Please read his objection ^diff to the United Nations paragraph.

Daniel E. Knodel asserts that "There are no direct quotes mentioned to support this claim..." However, it is almost verbatim from first reference.

[...] Aware of the grave health as well as social and cultural consequences of this activity for both tourist receiving and sending countries, especially when it exploits gender, age, social and economic inequality at the destination visited;[...]

As this is part of a lengthy, complex sentence, I see no need to quote more "directly". Daniel E. Knodel's requirement ignores pertinent discussion^diff and common sense, and seem like an attempt to find a "technicality" to exclude information that does not favor his POV.

The two abovementioned edits change the introductory section from a concise list of issues about sex tourism to a concise defense of sex tourism as no place for people who want sex with the underaged. This is POV and misleading.

[edit] Redefinition of sex tourism

Thought this was over ^diff. Daniel E. Knodel references the issue on this Evidence page ^diff.

Daniel E. Knodel has a novel definition ^diff of "Sex tourism" (an established concept[6][7]) as including activities such as observing other cultures and visiting sex museums — though unable to cite references^diff, and with no support (and majority opposition) from an RfC ^request. Reverts? You bet. ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff

Main defenses:

"'sex tourism' has acquired a derogatory connotation"^diff
original research
assertions of academic credentials and authority on the subject
lists of links to the sort of businesses he wanted included in his novel definition.^diff^diff

(These lists are the closest Daniel E. Knodel has come to providing citations for any of his statements on the Sex tourism article.)

Daniel E. Knodel dismisses my assertion that Google searches on "Sex tourism" finds few if any references to sex museums, swinger's clubs or FKK's with the argument "Thank you for telling us about your Google searches, but anyone could do that."^diff

[edit] Mr. Knodel's attempts to drive traffic to his website

[edit] Linking The Sly Traveller

Linking The Sly Traveller appears to be Daniel E. Knodel's driving issue ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff. His other edits may be intended to defend and promote traffic to his website.

[edit] Wikilinks to draw traffic to Sex tourism

Daniel E. Knodel links other pages to Sex tourism, perhaps to direct traffic to his site or increase its Googlerank. ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff ^diff.

[edit] Ownership of The Sly Traveler denied repeatedly

Conflict of interest repeatedly denied ^diff, notably on Talk:Sex tourism ^diff, and on this Evidence page ^diff ^diff.

— edgarde 22:35, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Puppetry by Mr. Knodel

Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Devalover

Denied repeatedly. ^diff ^diff ^diff — edgarde 03:02, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Templates

[edit] Removal of Warning Templates warning

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[edit] Things that collapse

[edit] Collapse thing

found in a Talk thread

Crikey!

I've noticed a remarkable coincidence: Litvinenko was born in 1962 and died in 2006, and Steve Irwin was also born in 1962 and died in 2006. Also:

Both died in an English-speaking country.
Both died of poisoning of some sort.
Both died in a place other than the one where they were born.
Both were involved in dangerous activities during their lives.

Scott Gall 04:31, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

OMG your right!!

Oh wait no... Steve died of a riped out heart.

And you are wrong about Steves death location since he died off the coast of Queensland, AUS.

*Both died in an English-speaking country. WTF??

*Both were involved in dangerous activities during their lives. So has almost everyone who ever died.

Your reading to much into this and coming out with a 'observation' and looking none the wiser.--Doom Child 07:37, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 'Nother collapse thing

Found in Wikipedia:Association of Members' Advocates/Meeting/August 2006

The following discussion is preserved as an archive.

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Blah here.

[edit] Expanded templates

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