Talk:Edgewood Arsenal experiments

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This article needs a complete rewrite: the current text is unsourced, apparently highly POV, and appears to be written by someone whose first language is not English. The topic seem to be real [1] [2], but beware, it appears to be of great interest to conspiracy theorists. -- Karada 18:53, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I have added a substantial amount to this article in the way of documentation. While I am not a user, I have written under the name Valtin at Daily Kos and can be found at http://valtin.dailykos.com. This addition does not constitute a complete rewrite, but I feel is substantial enough to remove the warnings on the page.

I went back and worked on it some more, and consider it now worthy of rewrite status, with plenty of documentation. Quotes are from U.S. government sources only and are not subject to copyright restrictions. 68.126.150.26 04:23, 30 November 2006 (UTC)Valtin, sfpsych@gmail.com, www.valtin.dailykos.com

Disputation of Neutrality: The langauge of this article is strongly biased in favor of an unsubstantiated and critical view of the experiments conducted at Edgewood Arsenal. Key facts that require much stronger substantiation in this article are:
1) That there is any relationship of any kind between the experiments conducted at Edgewood and the Nazis and/or Operation PAPERCLIP,
2) That there is any relationship of any kind between the CIA Operation MKULTRA and the experiments conducted at Edgewood Arsenal (note: this is explicitly contradicted by John Marks in his groundbreaking book on MKULTRA, "The Search for the Manchurian Candidate"),
3) That subject participation in the Edgewood Arsenal experiments did not involve a reasonable degree of informed consent as operationally appropriate to the experiments being conducted.

In the absence of such documentation, it is highly inappropriate to use language such as "victims of the experiments", and to suggest, as the authors have throughout the article, that the experiments involved deception, coersion, and malfeasance.

note from disputer Having re-examined some of the infromation on this matter i withdraw objection (2), having found evidence that the CIA ORD co-ran project OFTEN with the army at Edgewood arsenal to investigate the effects of drugs and toxins on animals and humans. I note that MKULTRA was discontinued was disbanded in 1963, prior to project OFTEN.