User talk:Ecthelion83

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Hi, your edits to Akatebune was fine. Just b/c the article itself is underdeveloped doesn't mean that you can't focus on adding stuffs about a particular subject related to the ship. Imagine the article as a featured article, many paragraphs long. What you wrote just now will be a part of that long article. It's ok. (Wikimachine 22:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC))

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[edit] Greetings from WikiProject Korea!

Thank you for your recent contributions to one of Wikipedia's Korea-related articles. Given the interest you've expressed by your edits, have you considered joining WikiProject Korea? It's a group dedicated to improving the overall quality of all Korea-related articles. If you would like to join, simply add your name to the list of participants.

If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask at the project talk page. We look forward to working with you in the future! Wikimachine 22:39, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey, remember to sign with (~~~~). Ok. You can basically copy and paste my user page & use it to your purpose if you want (then replace the infos).

You can go to here to get the user boxes that you need. You can also visit other Wikipedian user pages to get user boxes of their own. (Wikimachine 22:58, 3 September 2007 (UTC))

Thanks for joining WikiProject Korea, by the way. Also, Wikipedia uses the standard web code found here: [1] 1 of our editors got permanently banned b/c of 3RR violation (7 times). I hope you don't do that. (Wikimachine 22:59, 3 September 2007 (UTC))

WP:3RR. You can revert or change back an article (when you're in a dispute) up to 3 times, but no more. Upon 4th time, you get blocked for 24 hrs.... when it happens again, 48 hrs.... again, more, again, more, again, more, until you get banned permanently. (Wikimachine 23:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC))

What you want to do is to become an admin. That's equivalent to "success" here, but it's really hard if you're a Korean or any other minority & have to deal with many disputes. The best way to be an admin is to be cautious in disputes not to take any side, always be smiling, never get rough, and then you become like user:Visviva, whom everybody likes and his WP:Rfa passed with no opposition. When you've been in Wikipedia for about 1 year & have made about 1000 to 2000 contributions, you can apply for Request for Adminship (RFA). (Wikimachine 23:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC))

And you don't want to make small contributions. I've found that completely useless b/c overtime they degrade & get lost by other complete losers or vandals (in disguise, who pretend that they can't speak english very well, but in fact they can & they love to vandalize articles). You want to work on 1 article at a time, completely develop it into a master english literature & then submit it as a featured article (so that it can be displayed on the main page) at WP:FA. Look at WP:CITE to learn about the citation templates that you must use to cite articles.

When you've stayed in Wikipedia for about 3 months, you can get these anti-vandal tools (i.e. VandalProof). They're fun to play with sometimes. (Wikimachine 23:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC))

Also, this is very important - don't make multiple accounts & use them for your own ends, or you'll get banned. See WP:SOCK for more info on that. (Wikimachine 23:15, 3 September 2007 (UTC))

By the way, don't try editing on Liancourt Rocks - that was one of your very first edits which is a very ominous sign. Ppl have so much trouble with that article. Just ignore it. the guy who got banned was editing on that article. I'll deal with it. (Wikimachine 23:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC))

The link you gave me, already the other party rejected it. Some stuffs you've got to know: WP:OR - you've got to cite all your edits (theoretically) good example is Japanese invasions of Korea (1592-1598) that I'm working on. Look, you think all these rules will do you no good - trust me, ppl in disputes will use these rules against you whenever you violate them & make you look like a fool.

By the way, the way you write in discussion is perfect. There are some complete losers here who try to go for the French burgeois speech style & always says stuffs like please follow the guidelines, yes you are very welcome, however it is my belief that... or you're very welcome indeed.

They just sound ridiculous. Write naturally. Gl. Oh, this reminds me, there are ppl who always end their talk edits with these exclamations (I won't give you the one that I seen frequently b/c that would be considered a personal attack) like "best regards" or "happy editing!" & they just sound so sickening when they do that in a dispute & you know they're faking (& that they feel like coming to murder you). So, in a nut shell, write naturally. (Wikimachine 00:39, 4 September 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Your recent edits

Hi, there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button Image:Wikisigbutton.png located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot 23:24, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Citation

Hey, in order to cite, do this:

Create a section called "Footnotes" or "References" and then below copy paste {{reflist|3}}.

And then, use <ref>citation</ref> form & also for a citation that's used repeatedly,

use <ref name="citation name">citation</ref> & then all after, <ref name="citation name"/> Thx. (Wikimachine 21:27, 5 September 2007 (UTC))

Example would be Japanese invasions of Korea (1592-1598).

By the way, rest of your sources (about 3 of them) are also illegit b/c they're Wiki articles & they cannot be cited upon each other. gl. Keep developing the article, but you probably need something more than just websites you should go to main public libraries in downtowns, universities, etc. in order to get more info. Actually let me find some sources for you, e-mail me (on my user page I have my e-mail address). (Wikimachine 21:33, 5 September 2007 (UTC))

One tip as well--the wiki articles should be source themselves, so you can usually get the sources from there (and if not, please add the {{fact}} tag to the other articles). --Cheers, Komdori 21:35, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi and thank you for your service

I popped over the to the NU Wikipedians list and immediately recognized Ecthelion from Tolkien. Figured the person connected to that moniker had to be interesting. Sure enough, another NU engineer who spent more time on south campus prowling around the social sciences than their advisor probably considered safe. Were you ROTC?

I'm a dyed-in-the-wool civilian whose family business was military service. So: thank you for your service. It may have been reservist duty, but you raised your right hand and placed yourself at the disposal of the tender mercies of the DoD. Were you in on Rumsfeld's watch?

Good luck with the MPH and Med School. I expect your service ethic will find ample outlet in public health. Cheers, MARussellPESE (talk) 03:02, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button Image:Wikisigbutton.png located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 07:18, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:NAR

You seem to think that everyone will get rollback (your comment about 6+ million users with rollback). This is not the case. Only users that have been reviewed by admins (and found a clean record, no revert warring, etc) would get the tool. And administrators won't give it out to vandals. -- Cobi(t|c|b) 07:35, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your VandalProof Application

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Ecthelion83. As you may know, VP is a very powerful program, and in fact the just released 1.3 version has even more power. Because of this we must uphold strict protocols before approving a new applicant. Regretfully, I have chosen to decline your application at this time. The reason for this is that:


Please note it is nothing personal by any means, and we certainly welcome you to apply again soon. Thank again for your interest in VandalProof. βcommand 13:36, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kofun period

Please do not remove or alter others' comments on article talk pages. This is not a personal attack, and expressing one's point of view is exactly what talk pages are for. If you have a constructive response to the comment, by all means post it. But you don't have the right to censor other users. Kafziel Ask me for rollback 07:05, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I edited it because the opinion posted was simply wrong. I had cited sources to justify my statements (which were more or less neutral sources too), and I was told that those sources were my own personal opinion. The argument simply ate itself and made absolutely no logical sense.
It's not up to you decide whether it makes sense. Talk page comments don't need to be logical, sensible, or even remotely correct. If you disagree, say why and discuss it. Kafziel Ask me for rollback 22:43, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Fair enough.Ecthelion83 (talk) 02:51, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:ANI#Long time abusing Wikipedia by Japanese editors from 2channel meat/sock puppets

WP:ANI#Long time abusing Wikipedia by Japanese editors from 2channel meat/sock puppets
Talk:Sea of Japan#2channel meatpuppets from 朝鮮人のWikipedia（ｳｨｷﾍﾟﾃﾞｨｱ）捏造に対抗せよ 21diff

Hi, Ecthelion83, I just come to inform you that you have been exposed to 2channel, Japanese famous bulletin board. Unfortunately, many Japanese editors seem to have abused Wikipedia with the threads for a long time (over 4 years!) The discussion set up three days ago, but I let you know of this now.

You may or may not know that you and I were accused of socking each other about one month ago. Anyway, I translated some of information, but the threads are too many, so if you have a time to look at it, please visit the links listed there. I also add the diff in case you come to the page much later. If it is archived, you would find it in No. 380 or 381. Or use Special:Whatlinkshere Thanks. --Appletrees (talk) 02:24, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Ecthelion83. You can solve your query at this. Regards. --Appletrees (talk) 11:31, 6 March 2008 (UTC)