Talk:Ecoregion
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[edit] Attribution
Rather than attributing the 867 smaller regions generally to the science of ecology, tell us the name of a scientist or organization which specified that number.
The 8 major regions, however, might be a generally accepted division. User:Ed Poor, 22 March 2002
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- Thus the main organization is under ecozone now. But the 867 are not challenged, so it's time to consider a standard way of indicating which ecoregion a plant or animal species is found in, since exact borders shift but ecoregion in which each is found is stable. See meta:Ecoregion_DTD. -- 7 February 2003, —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 142.177.75.53 (talk • contribs).
- I think they're both the product of very wide consultation on the issue. National Geographic Society, World Wildlife Fund, published the map... and I think they are the recognized top dog authority on this.
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- Really? I'd question they were even players. I think Ecoregion is a buzzword. I find the definitions given here real weak. Is there any literature on this topic? - Marshman 05:57, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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- I thought I had a link there to the map... -- 22 March 2002, —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.150.61.63 (talk • contribs).
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- Glad to see attribution of views, 24. User:Ed Poor, 22 March 2002
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- Yes. He or she is definitely working their way towards NPOV. Progress! The Anome, 22 March 2002
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[edit] Greens
Greens hate progress. ;-)
And maybe everyone hates Greens because we shove all this complexity in their face...?
You know, some of this stuff is fiendishly interconnected, like ecology itself.
For instance it's not obvious that a watershed commons like the Great Lakes Commission is ecoregional unless you read the WWF definition quite carefully. And it's not obvious it's a democracy but not a state unless you think about it... since the term "democracy" refers to principle and process not any political structure in particular.
So, I am starting to understand why these things ran into resistance at first, although they seem obvious to me, guess I've been doing it too long... -- 22 March 2002, —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.150.61.63 (talk • contribs).
[edit] Problem
New problem:
Someone is editing "Nearctic" back to the old definition obsoleted by the new map. Some zones drastically expanded, some drastically shrunk, so pepole who don't know the new map are going to be stomping all over the accurate new definitions... grrr... how do I request that someone look at a given entry? -- 22 March 2002, —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.150.61.63 (talk • contribs).
- Write on their talk page. Welcome to the minarchist information ecology. The Anome
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- Done. Minarchy is fine. Social means are best for governance while they are not too high overhead.
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- I despise the term "ecology" abused to refer to non-body stuff, though - that is one meme I would like to kill. It's a science that happens to also be the universal metaphor (if you're a Green) or sacred (if you're a Gaian) so it's quite easy to describe anything as an "ecology" - implying it's all just as valuable as real living natural ecology.
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- Which it ain't. -- 22 March 2002, —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.150.61.63 (talk • contribs).
[edit] WWF
The partner of the WWF on that matter seem to have changed (it was before the National Geographic). According to [1] it is now funded by German's Federal Ministry of Education and Research (BMBF)
Anthere 07:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Merge discussion
It is suggested that all relevant material from Freshwater ecoregion be merged to this article, and then Freshwater ecoregion be redirected to this article. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 00:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- Makes sense to me. The WWF defines terrestrial, freshwater, and marine ecoregions. No need for each to have its own page; they are all ecoregions. (By the way, should Marine ecoregion also be merged then?) Pfly 03:47, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- agree merge, also Marine ecoregion all of which is in Global 200 and subsidiary pages. Abtract 10:36, 1 February 2007 (UTC)