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The position of Ecbatana is no doubt in Hamadan. The Urmia position and its relationship with Takht-i Suleiman has long been disproven. c/f Article in Encyclopedia Iranica. I have also done a journal search in JSTOR and google and there is no new evidence that the city was anywhere other than Hamadan. If there is any other evidence then it needs to be provided. FOr that reason I have removed the inaccurate information.

[edit] Sagbita

I have added following paragraph to the article: So far no evidence of Median existence in Hagmatana hill has been attested. Only evidence observed in the area belong to the Parthian era afterwards. ^[1] There is no mention of Hagmatana/Ecbatana in Assyrian sources at all. Some scholars have suggested the Sagbita/Sagbat frequently mentioned in Assyrian texts in fact has been an earlier form of the Ecbatana/Hagmatana mentioned in later Greek and Achaemenid sources, as Indo-Iranian /s/ turned into /h/ in many Iranian languages. Sagbita mentioned by Assyrian sources was located in proximity of cities of Kishesim (Kar-Nergal) and Harhar (Kar-Sharrukin) ^[2][3]. Asoyrun 19:36, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

the Iranian report spoke only about the Ecbatan hills, not about the ancient Hamadan (Ecbatana) Where is found planty of evidence for the Achamenid, Median and even older era inhabitance. In addition the article itself mentioned Achamenid foundings by Du Morgan. Who has been to the Ecbatana museum can see things by his own eyes. Also take a trip to Ganjname outside Hamedan. That site is at least as old as from the Achamenid era. The S thing is alsi curious. H stands in Iranian languages here most other Indo-European languages have an S. Association of Sagbita with Hagmatana means that there have been Indo-European presence in the are PTIOR to Medians, which is doubtful. But it could be also that the name has a Mittani origin. That is possible because it is believed that Mittani elite spoke an Indic language, but again the evidence for this is very slim--Babakexorramdin (talk) 02:41, 13 April 2008 (UTC)