Talk:Eastern Orthodox Church organization

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I heroically restrained myself from jocularly stating in the article that Eastern Orthodox theologians cannot write a paragraph without using the word "canonical" four or five times. (Mathematicians also frequently use that word, but not as often as Eastern clergy.) Michael Hardy 02:08, 15 Aug 2003 (UTC)

This article is largely redundant with Eastern Orthodoxy and should be folded in insofar as possible. Maybe as a summary at the beginning? - David Gerard 14:59, Jan 22, 2004 (UTC)

I think perhaps this page could be moved to Eastern Orthodox Church organization, or something like that, since it's about how the church is organized, rather than about other aspects. Michael Hardy 02:56, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)


Indeed Michael, it was heroic!, we do have a difficult time restraining from using the word " canonical" since , at the core, it is what the Orthodox Church is, it is ( or so we claim) the canonical Church. The Church that conforms to the Holy Canons. Though I will do what I can to restrain myself .

--Frmaximos 22:18, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)

I don't know who the right people to contact are, but a chart of this would be lovely. User:Erik Zachte, perhaps? --IvanP/(болтай) 03:27, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] why is Georgia ranked so low in the list?

when its church is so old?

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.113.79.25 (talk) 11:34, 9 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] merger tag

Only 2 or 3 paragraphs of this article add information not already present in the main article and in the History article. So I am wondering whether this article has a solid reason to exist. Maybe just copy the relevant information where necesary, and merge. :130.225.20.57 22:39, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

This article is essentially a list of Eastern Orthodox churches and merging it would just make the already very long article even longer. I am strongly against the merge. Nikola 14:05, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
I also am against merging it, since other language versions are keeping list and article apart as well. (interwiki performance). --213.155.224.232 17:47, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

It's not essentially a list; it's also an explanation, for those (most people!) not familiar with the fact, that on the one hand there are different organizations, but on the other hand there is a unified communion, and an account of how and why that came about. Eastern Orhodoxy seems like too big a topic to cram it all into just one article. Michael Hardy 18:12, 13 April 2007 (UTC)


I'm against merging it. It is a essential article about the Orthodox Churches. Too important to be deleted (or merging) The merger tag must be remove. Arthasfleo 10:16, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orthodox POV?

I suppose this is not terribly surprising, but this statement

There would have been five ancient patriarchates had the Church of Rome not broken off during the great schism in the 1054.

is pretty blatantly POV. According to the Catholic perspective, it is the four eastern churches which broke away from the Pope. I'm sure this can be rephrased to be not POV. john k 17:52, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

And what exactly is wrong with expressing the Orthodox POV on an Orthodox encyclopedia? Deusveritasest (talk) 07:00, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Finnish and Estonian orthodox: autonomous or not?

These two churches are listed both under "autonomous churches" and "churches without autonomy". Which is it? john k 17:57, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

My understanding is that the Finnish Orthodox Church is universally recognized as autonomous whereas the Estonian Apostolic Orthodox Church is not. So the Finnish Orthodox Church should be taken off of the "churches without autonomy" section. Deusveritasest (talk) 07:04, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Western Europe?

I am not aware that anyone considers Western Europe to be an autonomous church. There was a proposal to that effect a few years ago from the Patriarch of Moscow, but that was contingent on all three of the Russian churches (Moscow, ROCOR, and Rue Daru) merging together. The entry under Moscow for Metropolis of Western Europe actually links to the Rue Daru group of the Ecumenical Patriarchate.

Unless there is any viewpoint to the contrary, I propose to remove the entry from the list and from the template.Paterakis (talk) 22:38, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Antiochian Orthodox Christian Archdiocese of North America

This jurisdiction was listed under churches without autonomy, which is clearly not true. Its autonomy is universally recognized. I moved it to the category of churches with autonomy. Deusveritasest (talk) 07:02, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Seniority - Albania or Poland?

As far as i know Albanian church is right after greek church and senior towards poland church. it is created in 1924, so we should rerank the churches. Do you agree? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.24.247.82 (talk) 18:13, 12 March 2008 (UTC)