Talk:East of Eden

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[edit] Characters

Are the characters in East of Eden based on Steinbeck's relations at all? The book seems to indidicate this is so, and while Steinbeck's mother was named Olive, his father is named John, not Ernest (as in the book). The Jade Knight 09:48, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

The story is somewhat based on his life, as he was born in the Salinas Valley (and the intent was to describe that place to his own children). Indeed, a character named "John Steinbeck" is even the narrator of the book! I would speculate that he would have to draw upon his real-life experiences and relations from Salinas in order to convey such great imagery as he does in this book.
Twas Now 14:22, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit]  ?

"Howard is rumored to be considering the following actors as Cal: Tom Welling, Ben Mackenzie, James Franco, Paul Walker, Oliver Hudson, Jimmy Fallon, and Jason Bateman."

And where might the source of this be? I can't find any articles that name any names listed on the IMDB. Given that some of these actors aren't really known for serious drama, I would wager that this is a joke, added sometime around July 8th of last year. But well then again, I could be wrong: the fact is that there just don't seem to be any sources with even any rumored actors. So I'm removing this for now.Gershwinrb 10:22, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect

What's the deal with the paragraph-long redirect? The chavi 03:41, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

The plot described is the summary of the movie not the book. What makes this one of the beloved american novels of all time is the richness of the prose on all generations, including the realtionship adam trask's brother and military father, kathy's parents and death, steinbecks anscestors and each of his aunts and uncles travails, and the man servant Lee, who is the protaganist of the entire story. None of this appears in the plot summary... All the richness is lost in the description, by someone who doesn't appear to have remembered the book. What makes the story so magnetic is the duplication of relations with adam and his brother and adam's sons, and the beautiful girlfriend. The inventivenss of the irish immigrants and their richness in spirit is an inspriation to everyone who reads it.Joepah 02:23, 19 June 2007 (UTC)joepah

[edit] Popular culture

Several questionable deletions have been made to this page recently, notably this one and this one.

  • The Anna Nalick's reference was removed "because she infringed upon the Steinbeck copyright." (User_talk:Catbird222). No source has been given to confirm this was, in fact, a copyright infringement. I think that despite possible copyright infringement in the Anna Nalick case, the fact that the song was inspired by the book warrants recognition in the "Popular culture" section of this page.
  • The other two (Meg & Dia, and Babyshambles) were removed for no apparent reason.
  • The removal of the upcoming movie paragraph was because Howard "dropped out of the movie" (User_talk:Catbird222). No source was given for this either, and even if it is true, the paragraph should have simply been modified to reflect this, not removed completely

I have notified Catbird of most of these concerns. Please add your comments.

— Twas Now 21:48, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Quite right. All of these edits have looked distinctly POV-pushing. I'll try to keep an eye on it, too. bikeable (talk) 22:52, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lee

Lee is one of the most significant and memorable characters in the book, in my opinion. Is there any reason that he is only mentioned once in a throwaway comment? 158.104.206.191 05:23, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Main Characters" section

In regards to the comment (directly) above, I think we should incorporate a section which has character profiles, describing their personality, and their role in the book. It's been a while since I've read it, so I wouldn't feel comfortable adding content on any characters (unless I were to re-read it). However, if someone else would contribute content on the main characters, it might jog my memory and I would be happy to help! − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 08:54, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] First edition cover

The photo you have under the caption "First edition cover" is not even a cover. It is the title page from the first edition. Perhaps it is a first printing, but I can't really tell judging from the title page. --Smirkboy 14:39, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:JohnSteinbeck EastOfEden.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 22:01, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Popular Culture, Monster

The song Monster, by Meg & Dia is based on Cathy Ames specifically, atleast it says so on the Meg & Dia page, yet on this page it just says it's based generically on East of Eden, despite other songs on this page bothering to specifically mention being based on Cathy Ames. If that's the standard shouldn't this page say Monster was based on Cathy Ames? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.78.84.7 (talk) 04:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

The Meg & Dia topic makes the statement without providing a reliable source; this topic provides a reliable source which only states that the song is based on a concept found in the book, and does not mention Cathy Ames. Lacking a more detailed (reliable) source, this topic is the one that's correct. Tedickey (talk) 12:01, 25 February 2008 (UTC)