Talk:East Side Access
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[edit] Roosevelt Island?
What is the status of putting a statio on Roosevelt Island? —Preceding unsigned comment added by InGearX (talk • contribs) 1:43, 20 June 2006
- I wasn't aware that that was even an option for this project. Can you provide a source? — Larry V (talk) 03:48, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
- East Side Access doesn't include a station on Roosevelt Island. You may be thinking of Roosevelt Island (IND 63rd Street Line station), which is on the upper level (New York City Subway) tracks of the 63rd St Tunnel. East Side Access will use the 63rd Street Tunnel, but only the lower level tracks set aside for LIRR use. I don't think there's any physical accomodation for a station on the lower level tracks. --CComMack 06:32, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Moved from Long Island Rail Road
I removed this from there as too much detail, and pasted it here in case it's useful in this article. --NE2 23:03, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
East Side Access is a project being undertaken by the Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA), designed to bring the LIRR into a new East Side station to be built below and incorporated into Grand Central Terminal.
The project, under construction since 1998, would connect the Port Washington and Main lines to the station via Sunnyside Yard in Queens and cross the East River on the lower level of the 63rd Street Tunnel, which is currently served on the upper level by the F train of the New York City Subway.
The project cost has jumped in price from US$3 billion in 1998[citation needed] to US$6.3 billion in 2006,[1] with the biggest and most expensive work yet to be done—tunneling through Manhattan 90 feet (30 m) below the current Metro-North Railroad tracks under Park Avenue, 175 feet (50 m) below the street surface.
There would be no connections between the two sets of tracks. The LIRR concourse would be under Vanderbilt Avenue to the west of Grand Central Terminal. Current plans are to bring 24 trains per hour at peak time to the station (Penn Station currently can handle a maximum of 42 trains an hour at peak).
The project has so far not run into substantial opposition although some Midtown East businesses have started raising concerns. In addition, Cardinal Edward Egan has expressed concerns about the impact of a proposed air vent (disguised as a building) at 50th Street and Madison Avenue, very near to St. Patrick's Cathedral.[2]
The project was justified by a 1998 study that showed that approximately 70% of all jobs in Midtown Manhattan are within walking distance of Grand Central, while only 36% of jobs are within walking distance of Penn Station[citation needed] (there is some overlap, and some jobs are not within walking distance of either facility).
If the project is completed, Metro-North is considering bringing trains into Penn Station via the West Side Line along Manhattan's west side, which currently handles Amtrak and freight service.
[edit] How deep?
Will the new platforms be beneath both existing GCT levels, or beside one or the other? Jim.henderson 18:29, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
The platforms will be deep beneath both. The concourse will be next to the lower level. See http://mta.info/capconstr/esas/planned_improvements.htm The platforms and concourse will be north of the existing station, but storage tracks will extend underneath. --agr 13:18, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Can images from MTA (a government agency) be added to this article.
The images at MTA.INFO would be invaluable to understanding this article. The MTA is a government agency, so would the images be acceptable on Wikipedia? user:mnw2000 18:42, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
- They are not free content images. Only works of the U.S. Federal Government are automatically public domain. So they may only be used under the auspices of the fair use doctrine of U.S. copyright law. Wikipedia has rules about the use of images under fair use. See Wikipedia:Non-free content. Maps and the like are likely to be rejected as fair use since they are replaceable by free maps. Also, each image used under fair use must have a fair use rationale specific to that image. See Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline. Hope this helps. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 20:00, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
