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[edit] Map

Just putting in a request for someone to find a map of East Anglia for this page. I'd like to see where it is in the UK geographically b/c many English emigrants (esp. those that came to the US) were from EA. Thank you. jengod 08:24, Jan 16, 2004 (UTC)

I always like to describe East Anglia as the bobbly bit on the right of England. There's a fairly distintive, almost circular bulge towards the south east. (This doesn't mean a map wouldn't be useful, though) --Darac 09:50, 16 Jan 2004 (UTC)
I don't think there is a clear definition of East Anglia, although a lot of people and organisations use the term to mean something close to the East of England region (there is one school of thought that believes the term should have been used for the government region since it's more than just points on the compass). But a historic map of the kingdom and/or any well known set of boundaries might at least give an idea. --Timrollpickering 12:16, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Popular wisdom tends to point towards East Anglia consisting exclusively of Norfolk and Suffolk; Essex, occasionally included, is usually locally dismissed as "the south east".
Just to further confuse the issue, King's Lynn is home to the College Of West Anglia! Kinitawowi 14:53, 02 Aug 2004 (BST)
I've rewritten the intro to include the notion of it being somewhat undefined as a region, and also to incorporate the point about it not being flat (having cycled round Suffolk all through my childhood I can confirm that!) --ALargeElk | Talk 14:20, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I'm wondering if it's worth mentioning that the area is publicly conceived as being flat; ask the average layman (read: non-East Anglian) what they know about East Anglia and they'll say it's flat. It's clearly developed a notoriety for it, accurate or otherwise. --Kinitawowi 14:34, Aug 2, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] its not flat!

lincolnshire and cambridgeshire and a little bit of norfolk are flat but the rest is rolling hills!

[edit] Semi autonomous?

This is the first I've heard that East Anglia is semi-autonomous or has it's own regional assembly. Perhaps it's refering to the East of England regional assembly [1], which includes more than just East Anglia, has very little (if any) power, and isn't elected (and probably won't be for the forseeable future). -- Joolz 17:07, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

>The East of England Development Agency, on the other hand, is unelected and has a great deal of power.

[edit] Flag?

I've lived in East Anglia for 25 years but this is the first time I've seen a flag of East Anglia! Who are these regionalist parties who have proposed it? Come to think of it, I don't think I've heard of any "regionalist parties" in East Anglia. If they exist, they are doing a very poor job of promoting their cause! Bluewave 18:24, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

I see the flag is back! If someone can quote an authoritative source, I will believe that there is a recognised flag of East Anglia but, so far, I have seen only a vague reference to an idea by a handful of "ex pat" east anglians around 1900. I have quite a few books on east Anglia and none of them mentions a flag. Two UK flag companies (www.HampshireFlag.co.uk and www.midland-flags.com) have good online catalogues, but no mention of an East Anglian flag. Bluewave 09:11, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

>The flag you mention was invented around the turn of the 19th and 20th centuries. It was promoted in Norfolk, but never really took off.

[edit] Arms

A recent edit speaks of a "candidate for arms of East Anglia". The use of arms in England is strictly controlled by the College of Arms: it is not sufficient for some people to identify a likely candidate and adopt it. As far as I am aware, arms are granted (for a large fee) to individuals, establishments such as universities, corporations and similar bodies. I am not sure that arms can be granted to a vaguely-defined geographical area. If that did happen, it would be very unclear who had the right to use the arms. Bluewave 17:30, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Would-be East Anglians

I was born in East Anglia and have lived here almost all my life. I would like to make some comments regarding which counties are in East Anglia, and those not.

I have always believed that Suffolk Norfolk and Cambridgeshire are what East Anglia consists of, and nothing else.

However many people who live in areas bordering East Anglia would like to share the prestige and fashionability of being within EA. So people in North Essex for example like to pretend they are in EA.

Also, because the television trasmitters extend into several counties, the regional news programmes try to pretend that EA consists of several very alien counties.

So ignore all the would-bes - East Anglia consists only of Norfolk Suffolk (and usually by most East Anglians reckoning) Cambridgeshire.

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"Some people include Essex—sometimes only the northern part—and a small part of southern Lincolnshire bordering The Wash."

Regarding the comment above and this quote, I must be 'some people' as I am constantly told I live in East Anglia (Coggeshall, Essex) - however, can we have some references please, rather than 'some people this and some people that'? East Anglian Pretender 12th September 2006

[edit] Settlements

This article describes Norwich as being the only city and largest settlement in East Anglia whilst also referring to Cambridge and Peterborough as being in within East Anglia. This seems to be a contradiction as both are cities and and Peterborough is larger than Norwich.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterborough http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwich

Caractacusrex 17:54, 16 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] East Anglia accent query

I live in the Boston area (that's Boston, Massachusetts), and we have a very distinctive 'Boston' accent that includes among other things dropping the '-er' at the end of words and replacing it with '-a', so that for example 'father' is pronounced like 'fatha'. I have been told that the accent persists locally because the original settlers to the region came from East Anglia.

Do East Anglians have this same accent?

By the way, there are some very familiar locality names here e.g. Norfolk and Suffolk counties, Cambridge, etc.

[edit] Map discussion

Yorkshirian recently added this new version of an old map to this article; it was removed by Deacon of Pndapetzim and re-added by Yorkshirian. I'd like to replace it with this map instead, which doesn't use boundaries. The changes were made to several articles, so to centralize discussion, please post at Talk:Mercia#Map if you have an opinion. Mike Christie (talk) 02:43, 10 January 2008 (UTC)