Talk:Earned run

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I'm watching the Giants-Padres game. With no outs, Bonds popped a ball up that Piazza should have had, but Piazza dropped it. In the same at-bat, Bonds homered. Is his run earned? Nothing in the current article says otherwise (he didn't reach base on the error, though he wouldn't have reached base without it; also, the error did not extend the inning). If Bonds' run was unearned, what about the run scored by the runner on first when Bonds homered? --Trovatore 04:25, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

If the official scorer ruled the muffed pop fly as an error, the run is not earned. Refer to Rule 10.18(b) This link will take you there. http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/official_info/official_rules/official_scorer_10.jsp Ken

Thanks. Maybe you'd like to add that info to the article. --Trovatore 20:38, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

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Batter 1 reaches first on an error. Batter 2 grounds to the second baseman, and he gets the out at second, but they don't manage to turn two. Now if batter 2 comes around to score, is that run earned? Reading the article it seems like it would be, but he wouldn't likely be on base if not for the error. MookieZ 22:18, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

You can never assume a double play i.e. not turning one, no matter how easy, is not an error. I understand that doesn't totally answer the question, because if there was no double play to turn, the out at first would obviously have been easier. Still, and this is just an assumption, I think it would be an earned run. Clemenjo 00:44, 8 August 2007 (UTC)