Talk:Earl of Ormonde (Irish)

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Where is Ormonde as a place exactly ?

--- Ormonde as a name derives from the Irish "Oir Mumhan" which means quite literally "East Munster" likewise Desmond comes from "Deis Mumhan" (South Munster) and Thomond comes from "Thuaidh Mumhan" (North Munster). What would be called Ormond consists generally of Counties Tipperary and Kilkenny (former kingdom of Ossory). ---

[edit] Page split

Would anyone object to the splitting this rather confusing page? I would have thought that Earl of Ormonde (Ireland) and Earl of Ormonde (Scotland) would do it, with this left as a dab. Any comments? ::Supergolden:: 10:15, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

It seems to have been down with a bias to the Irish Peerage, considering that part of nobility is lower in precedence than peers of Scotland, I, ll do something about it now.Brendandh 12:29, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Duke of Ormonde

In the introduction it is mentioned that:

The third creation was for Piers Butler, in 1538. The fifth earl of this creation was made Marquess of Ormonde (1642) and Duke of Ormonde (1660) in the Peerage of Ireland, and Duke of Ormonde (1682) in the Peerage of England.

But in the section heading it says "# 6 Dukes of Ormonde, Ireland (1661)" so is it 1660 or 1661? (Is this a January-March 1661/1660 OS/NS problem?)--Philip Baird Shearer 12:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)