Talk:Earl of Cornwall

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[edit] Baldwin ?!

Anyone has informations on who is this Baldwin, 1st Earl of Cornwall ? I haven't found anything on an earl between 1180 and 1188. It seems the title was owned by John of England...—Preceding unsigned comment added by PurpleHz (talk • contribs) 14:03, 7th November 2006

The only thing I can find is "The Annals of Waverley record the death in 1188 of “Baldewinus comes Cornubiæ, consanguineus regis”[268]. This is the only reference so far identified to Baldwin have succeeded as Earl of Cornwall, presumably de iure uxoris if this succession is correct." at [1]. DuncanHill (talk) 02:02, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

this Baldwin is also Earl of Devon (i.e. Baldwin de Redvers, 3rd Earl of Devon) BALDWIN (-10 or 28 May 1188). The Fundationis et Fundatorum Historia of Ford Abbey names “Baldwinum secundum et Ricardum tertium” as the two sons of ”Ricardus secundus”, adding that both sons died childless[264]. Robert of Torigny records that "parvulum filium…Balduinum" succeeded on the death in 1162 of "Richardus de Revers dominus insula Vectæ in Anglia"[265]. He succeeded his father in 1162 as Earl of Devon, Lord of the Isle of Wight, probably invested with the earldom in 1185 or 1186[266]. The Obituary of Lyre records the death 10 May of “Baldewinus comes”[267]. The Annals of Waverley record the death in 1188 of “Baldewinus comes Cornubiæ, consanguineus regis”[268]. This is the only reference so far identified to Baldwin have succeeded as Earl of Cornwall, presumably de iure uxoris if this succession is correct. m (Betrothed 1177) as her first husband, DENISE de Déols, daughter and heiress of RAOUL [VII] Sire de Déols et de Châteauroux & his second wife Agnès de Charenton (1173-1221[269], bur Déols). The primary source which confirms her first marriage has not yet been identified. She married secondly (Salisbury Aug 1189) André [I] de Chauvigny Sire de Chauvigny, and thirdly (after 1203, maybe repudiated before 1207) as his first wife, Guillaume [I] Comte de Sancerre. (same link as above). DuncanHill (talk) 02:04, 17 April 2008 (UTC)