Talk:E. B. Ford

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[edit] Requested move

E.B. Ford → E. B. Ford – Naming conventions -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 15:13, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

Add "* Support" or "* Oppose" followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~

• Oppose there is no consensus on whether articles with initials should have _ indeed (whatever koavf (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log) thinks), the more common way is without the underscore. — Dunc|☺ 15:15, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose Unneccessary, in line with no clear policy I can find, and does not add to clarity. Naturenet | Talk 20:55, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
• Support: See my comment below. —Wknight94 (talk) 13:07, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

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The convention itself Is located here. See also that the majority of articles (and, in particular, virtually all the ones with many edits) are in the form "X. Y. Lastname." Regardless of what Duncharris (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · block user · block log) says, I think that WP:Be bold leads me to move such pages in keeping with a standard that was already written, regardless of consensus. I only put this here after being convinced it was a gesture of good will. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 19:08, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I hate to split hairs and I do applaud your attempt to enforce a standard. However the reference you gave itself refers to another page of conventions and the two are not consistent, the latter page giving examples of both styles with apparent approval. Nowhere is the specific point of spacing addressed except by unannotated example. I do not believe there is a consensus on whether or not there should be spaces in names formatted like E.B. Ford. I suggest that the reason there is no such consensus nor likely to be one is because it is a trivial issue. Therefore it is not worth moving a page to achieve compliance. Naturenet | Talk 19:43, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

I sway to and fro on this issue but I have to admit the wording in this section of WP:NCP is quite clear. "For abbreviated names (if these are the most used) every abbreviation is followed by a point, and every point is followed by a single space" — and the boldface is in the convention itself, not added by me. There is only one exception shown in the convention, B.G. James, and that article has since been moved to Brian Gerard James. In one of these move requests, I pointed out that every source I could find had no space in the middle but the ruling still went against me. Personally, I would have moved this page since the opposes were unconvincing. —Wknight94 (talk) 13:07, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

You're right, I'm wrong, the guidelines are unambiguous. I withdraw any objection on grounds of policy. I would still assert that this entire thing is de minimus. Naturenet | Talk 17:59, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

• Moved per discussion. Special thanks to Wknight94 for participation :) Teke ^(talk) 00:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)