Talk:Dysnomia (moon)
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[edit] redirect
The content of this article is more or less a straight copy and paste from the main article. There doesn't seem a whole lot of point in doing that, so I've changed it back to a redirect. When so little is known about the moon anyway, it makes much more sense to discuss it in the main article.
- Natural satellites deserve own articles, but since there is so little information available (there's even been rumors that it isn't real after all), keeping the article only a redirect is justified.--Jyril 12:16, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Infobox
| Image:2006-16-a-full.jpg 2003 UB313 and satellite: artist's impression |
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| Discovery | |
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| Discovered by | Michael E. Brown (using the Keck Observatory) |
| Discovered in | 10 September 2005 |
| Orbital characteristics | |
| Semi-major axis (a) | 30,000 - 36,000 km |
| Eccentricity | |
| Orbital period (P) | ~14 d |
| Inclination | |
| Parent body | 2003 UB313 |
| Physical characteristics | |
| Mean diameter | 300 - 400 km |
| Mass | |
| Mean density | |
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| Axial tilt | |
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This image would be nice:
[edit] "Gabrielle_(Xena)"
Hilarious & silly.
Miles O'Brien [ Miles_O'Brien_(journalist) ], cnn, speaking with Neil deGrasse Tyson, announced this mnemonic:
"My Very Educated Mother Just Sent Us Nine Pizzas,..."
"Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto,..."
Hopiakuta 20:43, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Dysnomia, Lawlessness?
Am I the only one that finds this choice of name ironic? Concidering that Xena was played by a Lucy Lawless? Perhaps... Hmm, did this maybe subconciously affect their decisions for the official name of the newly designated planet? -- Lucy (Not Lawless, just coincidence) 08:16, September 14, 2006 (UTC)
- You're not. The name is too obvious to be a pure coincidence.--JyriL talk 10:15, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
- Hang on. The dwarf planet is dischord. The moon now called 'lawless' was nicknamed Gabrielle, the role played by Renée O'Connor. --GwydionM 15:24, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
I suspect that Mike named them discord and lawlessness because of all the controversy surrounding them and their naming. This would need to be confirmed by Mike. Watch for interviews.Michaelbusch 15:59, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
- SkyTonight.com: The satellite, now called Dysnomia, is named for Eris's daughter, the goddess of lawlessness — a tribute, says Brown, to the actress who played Xena, Warrior Princess: Lucy Lawless. The name also referes to Brown's wife Diana (cf. Pluto's Charon / Charlene). [1] --JyriL talk 17:59, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Dysnomia is a memory disorder characterized by a marked difficulty in remembering names or recalling words needed for oral or written language. Uh... sorry, what was the name of this satellite again? --mglg(talk) 17:46, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
Some articles talking about the coincidence: Dwarf Planet, Cause of Strife, Gains ‘the Perfect Name’ NY Times, Dwarf planets get new names astronomy.com, and here's one that quotes Brown: Eris, Goddess of Strife, Joins Solar System Amid Raucous Debate (The Planetary society) - but the quote isn't confirmed anywhere else Andjam 23:57, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
- Bad Astronomy blog post on the naming Andjam 00:54, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] fixing
could someone fix the infobox? It's transparent..--TheFEARgod (listening) 20:43, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Should this not be at (136199) Eris I Dysnomia?
After all, "Dysnomia" has no historic claim to the name (an argument, IMO flawed, made with 134340 Pluto), and we do have a redirect already at Dysnomia for the rare user looking for this obscure body. --John Kenneth Fisher 22:24, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
- I oppose moving it there. None of the other moons in the solar system have such titles, and this one shouldn't have such at title either. Voortle 23:47, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
- It's in exactly the same format as Nix (moon) and Hydra (moon), or for that matter Dactyl (moon) (which however leads off with the name (243) Ida I Dactyl). That's just how we do it here at Wikipedia. :) RandomCritic 03:35, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Dysnomia (moon) → Dysnomia (natural satellite)
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the proposal was No move Duja 10:44, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Moon can be a confusing term --Cat out 14:42, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- How so? Michaelbusch 14:46, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- I would assume it's because the moon is commonly associated with Earth's natural satellite. I agree with the move, but weakly. --Wirbelwind 15:07, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- Aren't all the other natural satellites disambiguated by "(moon)"? Is there a reason why this particular body has been singled out? --Polaron | Talk 15:08, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
Moon is commonly used for natural satellites, there's no reason to use a more complicated term. – Alensha talk 16:58, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose Moon is the common term. 132.205.44.134 00:43, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose: Per 132.205.44.134. Even if "natural satellite" is the technically correct term, "moon" is certainly more common and that's all that matters per WP:NC. —Wknight94 (talk) 02:06, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose - The object may be correctly referred to as a moon, and most people are smart enough to figure out that the article title is not referring to the Earth's moon. Also, please note that the rings of Jupiter, rings of Saturn, rings of Uranus, and rings of Neptune are natural satellites that cannot be considered moons. GeorgeJBendo 06:26, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
- Opppose. Page move would be pointless.--JyriL talk 19:13, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose All the planet's moons are called name (moon) so this one should also unless we change them all. WilliamKF 23:26, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose "Natural satellite" has the same ambiguity; so the proposal adds pompousness (and spelling errors) for no real benefit. Septentrionalis 20:35, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose — if only because a multitude of other moon articles would then need to be renamed. See the links in the table on the natural satellite page. — RJH (talk) 22:23, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
[edit] officially designated garbage
The lead sentence is not necessary. It's not officially named "136199 Eris Dysnomia", it is named Dysnomia.
- The official name of Dysnomia is 136199 Eris I (Dysnomia), just as Phobos is Mars I (Phobos). In practice, the full name is infrequently used. Michaelbusch 01:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- They're not "official" designations, they are just secondary ones. Like Mars II, Pluto II, Saturn II, Jupiter II, etc. And for the record, it's not Mars II with (Phobos) in parenthesis, it's just Mars II.
[edit] Constrain
The article says, "the satellite was used to constrain the mass of Eris". What is the meaning of "constrain" in this sentence? Is is referring to constraint algorithms? Vsst 03:02, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
