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1 Toph
2 The Guru
3 season special
4 List of Avatar: The Last Airbender epidoes
5 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot
6 Characters page
7 Your recent uploads
8 License tagging for Image:Katarapic2.JPG
9 Avatar
10 Orphaned fair use image (Image:Appa's lost days desert.JPG)
11 Orphaned fair use image (Image:Appa's lost days library.JPG)
12 Orphaned fair use image (Image:Avatar opening.JPG)
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17 Orphaned fair use image (Image:Katarapicture.JPG)
18 Orphaned fair use image (Image:Katarapicbig.JPG)
19 You need to stop editing Sage's comment.
20 Metal Bending
21 Popups
22 Orphaned fair use image (Image:Avatar The legend so far.JPG)
23 DC Meetup notice
24 Day of the black sun
25 Third Season
26 I'm Reporting You
27 Avatar: The Last Airbender WikiProject News: IRC
28 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Appa's Lost Days pic.JPG)
29 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Appa's lost days circus.JPG)
30 Orphaned non-free media (Image:Appa's lost days suki.JPG)
31 Avatar is The BEST
32 Disputed fair use rationale for Image:City of Walls and Secrets- Dai Lee.JPG
33 Edit Summary
34 FAR notification for Avatar: the Last Airbender
35 Wikipedia meetup

[edit] Toph

I took out the word 'sight' because she is blind. So the literal word 'sight' is incorrect, in my opinion. If one uses 'sight' to mean her Earthbending skill, it needs to be explained that way. Someone who knows little about this show will be confused. They will not know that she is literally blind. As for emotioins, how this:

Sandbenders attack Appa with intent to capture him, while Toph,
her "sight" hampered by the sand, and tormented by the need to
prevent the library from sinking, is unable to help.

Will that work for you? Salvax ^{(Speak on me | What I did)}--23:06, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, since you decided to keep the use of 'sight', I think a compromise should be met, and let me use 'tormented'. Let's meet half way...what do you say? We both should be able to contribute. Salvax ^{(Speak on me | What I did)}--01:10, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Salvax ^{T - C}--19:34, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] The Guru

How do you know that is what happens? Cnriaczoy42 01:24, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Well you can't please everyone. If you guys want to have your fun with the name, feel free to keep the page, but don't post it as an official name on the episodes list. H2P ^{(Yell at me for what I've done)} 03:31, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] season special

When does the TV Special: "Avatar: The Legend So Far" come out. I didnt see it on tv on semptember 18, 2006.It said on the list of avatar episodes it comes out semptember 18, 2006

[edit] List of Avatar: The Last Airbender epidoes

If you think it has one thing missing then either add it or tell me what you believe is missing so I can add it myself. Other tv show episode list are featured. so why can;t ours be? Cnriaczoy42 10:31, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Characters page

I think it will stay, you might as well give up the fight. Besides, we're going to be fucking up the Minor page soon so it might actually be a bit useful then. It's just that as of now it looks like shit! H2P ^{(Yell at me for what I've done)} 00:58, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent uploads

You have uploaded several of the same pictures. Please do not clutter Wikipedia. --Yancyfry 23:54, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that was a mistake. You can delete all but katarapicture and kararapicturebig I think. -Dylan0513 23:56, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Avatar

If you are going to tell me off about a mistake then can you at least tell me on my avatar reply page on the part where it says suggestions 4 mistakes on my avatar page thanks From Zach111493 ^{my talk}my contributions 22:36, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] You need to stop editing Sage's comment.

This isn't a joke. You keep editing his comment, you can get blocked for it. I don't want to file the report, but I will if you make me. You have a problem with something he said, take it up on his talk page. You're breaking policy here, stop it.--Fyre2387 ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:53, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

And he is too. That's the problem with the policies. -Dylan0513 18:54, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Even if that's true, two wrongs don't make a right. He answered a question, there's nothing blatantly sinister about it, and there's nothing to excuse what you're doing.--Fyre2387 ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:57, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

He's advertising for a site that in reality hurts the avatar community! That's inexcusable in itself. -Dylan0513 18:58, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

That's your opinion, one that not everyone share's (I've got the site bookmarked, in fact.) Regardless, he's not "advertising". Advertising would be sticking random unsolicited links in pages. He answered a question, nothing more than that.--Fyre2387 ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:03, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure saying, like this and you should really check out here is advertising. ASN may look helpful, but they're an exclusionary "don't steal my pics or your getting sued" place. And this is with me having nothing person against them either. -Dylan0513 19:06, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't care for all their admins, either (their a bit harsh on the forums, I think) but that's neither here nor there. This person asked, and he got an honest answer. Like I said, if you have a problem with the way Sage handled it, take it up on his talk page, fine, but editing his comments just doesn't fly. He could have done a lot worse things, and I'd still leave the comment as it was, because things just aren't done that way.--Fyre2387 ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:10, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I did post on his talk page already. I'm pretty sure this is against policy though and I can get permission or get someone else to take it off though. -Dylan0513 19:12, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Dylan, what would you have done? Told the kid to screw off and never come here again because this isn't a forum? Probably, which means you would have broken this: Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers. I chose to give the kid a site to go to so that he would not post any other such things on Wikipedia. I gave him an outlet, it wasn't advertising. It was guidance. And it's not against the Wikipedia policy to send someone to a site where they should be. It's not advertising however you want to see it. Want to know why? Here: Wikipedia:Advertisement.

Read up and read well. What I did in no way qualifies as advertisement OR as canvassing. You just have personal issues against ASN and any mention of it, as you've mentioned above. That gives you NO reason to delete someone's comment and COMPLETELY breaks THIS policy: Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines#Behavior_that_is_unacceptable.

Do you see now that YOU are the policy-breaker and not me? You're "pretty sure" that my actions were against policy? Maybe you should RESEARCH BEFORE you act. Like I did. It's common sense. If you do that, you'll be far less likely to break any of these, too: Wikipedia:Etiquette#How_to_avoid_abuse_of_talk_pages.

I was going to send him to another Avatar page with a forum, but I couldn't really find one fast enough, so I just gave him ASN. There was no hidden agenda, and you have no reason or evidence to think so. Whether you like or dislike ASN, you can't deny that they have a forum and was where that kid should have been. Not here. What YOU think of ASN, whether it is good or bad, does not even remotely factor into anything that should ever be on Wikipedia. So keep it to yourself.

I'm going to stop throwing all those links in your face now. I did that not because I want to be hostile, but because I wanted to be thourough - a courtesy you did not give me.

Now I won't go there and re-edit the page to include my response. Mainly because I feel that the kid got the message and there is nothing more to be gained. You, however, Dylan, need to exercise far more caution with your rash behaviour, for the sake of your account and every Avatar page. Sage of Ice 23:40, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Your turning into Manticore with all those links, XD. I have nothing personal against ASN, I just don't like them. And I won't read any one of those policies. You were definitely being to nice to him, he insulted us and called us not real avatar fans. In the future, please don't throw out a random suggestion to a fan site. Any of them. -Dylan0513 23:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I understand that Manticore gets his fair share of criticism. But Dylan, if you won't read the links, then you only put yourself in a position of ignorance which will lead to other arguments such as the one you just had with Fyre. You do good work on the Avatar pages and it's best that you keep yourself informed about Wikipedia in general to really maximize your contributions. By shrugging off the policies and guidelines, you put yourself at risk of breaking them, kind of like you just did. You can choose to not care, but don't expect to get away with uninformed actions.

I was hoping that by being nice to him I wouldn't have had to deal with stuff like his second insert, but apparently not. As for throwing out fan-site suggestions, it's perfectly allowed so long as it's on the talk pages and is being productive instead of disruptive, and not continuous or "spammed". Read the Wikipedia:Advertisement to better understand what I mean.

If I feel that a discussion can benefit from directing someone to a site, so long as I don't suffocate someone with it, then I'm prefectly within the policies and guidelines to do so. You, unfortunately, are not in a position to refute that, but you are free to talk to me when you feel it is excessive (which it wasn't in that case). Sometimes it is necessary to link a fan site, as fan sites are the ones who often host con transcripts with valuable info. In this case, it was necessary as a painless way to get a potential vandal out of here, and I can only hope it worked. Sage of Ice 00:39, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't care about Wikipedia policies all that much. I really don't think we're should be linking to fansites, but if you are, please link to distanthorizon or dongufeng, it's for the good of the community. -Dylan0513 00:56, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I could have listed Distant Horizon or Dongbu, as they do have a forum. They just didn't come to my mind fast enough. ASN popped in and that was what I used. I was trying to get him out, not provide him with a comprehensive list of Avatar fansites.

As I mentioned, linking to fansites is allowed so long as it is done when it is appropriate and serves a purpose. I'm sorry that you don't like this, but it's just the way it is. As I said, I won't be doing it on every post, just when it can prove useful. And I'm not particular about my fansites. I peruse them all looking for updates and have no qualms with any. So I'll mention whichever comes to mind. I won't show favoratism, because continuous favoratism could then become advertisement, and I seek to avoid that, believe it or not.

The "good of the community" is really quite subjective. You have your opinions on which sites are better, but it may not be shared by all. You may have this view of ASN: "ASN may look helpful, but they're an exclusionary "don't steal my pics or your getting sued" place," but don't try to make the world see it the same way. The pics I upload onto this site are pics I make myself using my own screenshots. You don't need a fansite to get pics, so I don't see why you hate them so much for such a small reason.

To end this rant, I'll just mention that you seemed to care enough about the policies when you could use them to further your own agenda. Be careful with that. Sage of Ice 01:40, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Dylan, really: you're honestly saying you think the best thing to do would have been to tell this new guy to go screw himself, rather than just answer his question?--Fyre2387 ^{(talk • contribs)} 01:57, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Uh, delete the topic and move on. It's not our job to be nice to these people. And Sage, I've never really cared about the policies and I'm almost positive I've never cited them. -Dylan0513 02:05, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

No, it's not our job to be nice, but it doesn't hurt to do so. Potential vandals just get more worked up if we bitch at them, causing them to become complete vandals just out of spite. Being civil helps avoid collateral damage and isn't really a chore to anyone unless they aren't civil in real life, without the Net's protection.

I was just saying, Dylan, that you didn't hesitate to say "I'm pretty sure this is against policy though and I can get permission or get someone else to take it off though" when it came to your justification as to why I was in the wrong. But you avoided the policies I brought up that put me in the right. Sage of Ice 03:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

As a side note: regardless of how much you care about Wikipedia's rules, you do need to follow them, so reading them may not be a bad idea.--Fyre2387 ^{(talk • contribs)} 05:05, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Not when they contradict what I think is right. And yeah just remember, they're policies, not rules. -Dylan0513 11:55, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

But Dylan... that's bigotry. I would advise steering yourself clear of that state of mind and just accepting, with maturity and good sportsmanship, when you are in the wrong. Take the situation, learn from it, and move on.

Now, if the system of a policy is good enough to be the basis and backbone of good governments, then what is it that makes you so above that system on Wikipedia? Sage of Ice 16:20, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Nah, those are laws. And it's not bigotry, if some policy on a website contradicts my moral values, I'm obviously not going to follow it. -Dylan0513 23:07, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

No see, laws and policies are different. Governments function on policies: foreign policies, economic policies, policies of conduct... the list goes on. Governments pass laws, but they operate on policies. Without the established policies, they would crumble. It's a lot different from a law. Wikipedia functions the same way. Ask yourself what would become of government if every official decided to completely ignore the established policies. Policies govern those who govern laws. Without policies, presidents become dictators. Then what would become of the laws?

Do not think yourself above the policies. No one here is. Not you, not me, not Fyre, not H2P...

You didn't follow the link that I posted, so I'll paste the definition here:

big·ot·ry /ˈbɪgətri/ Pronunciation Key - [big-uh-tree]

–noun, plural -ries.

1. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.

So there you have it. By thinking yourself too good to obey Wikipedia policies, you put yourself in the position of bigotry. What moral values is it contradicting? The moral value that allows free speech on a talk page? The moral value which allows the freedom of sharing of information? The moral value of neutral objective when it comes to sending someone to a site? It's obeying all of those, so perhaps you don't foster such morals. Perhaps the only moral you foster is the intolerance of ASN. You haven't even read the policies to know what it is you're "rebelling" against, you just can't stand ASN. That is a weak platform, my friend.

This has gone on for way too long. You're obviously too stubborn to accept anything that isn't what you want it to be. If this means we'll clash again in the future, then so be it. It's not my wish, but if I have to in order to defend Wikipedia policies, then I guess I will. In the meantime, hopefully this won't hinder collaboration on Avatar articles quality. I won't be making any more entries onto your talk page for this topic so say whatever you want; I'm just wasting my time here. Sage of Ice 03:40, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

And yet you don't notice the key word in your sentence all the time. Wikipedia. Wiki is not the law and never will be. -Dylan0513 12:00, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

(un-indent)So the website has no right to set rules for its own users? That actually makes sense to you? I expect you'll stop reverting vandals, then...--Fyre2387 ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:20, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

D'oh! Whatever, I'm just going to stop. Sage, you'll never understand, and Fyre, I don't feel like explaining. I'll continue to work with you both and respect you, but just don't expect me to agree with with you on issues like this. -Dylan0513 21:25, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Metal Bending

Re: this, please read WP:OWN and do not remove valid material from articles. I've re-added but reworded to make it easier to read. Thanks! RunedChozo 19:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I reverted it because it was speculation. Stop throwing the damn policies at me. -Dylan0513 20:09, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to my world Dylan, I saved you a seat. H2P ^{(Yell at me for what I've done)} 20:30, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Oy, I've been it your world H2P. Look at the discussion above. -Dylan0513 21:24, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I must have missed you. It's kinda dark and cluttered in here. H2P ^{(Yell at me for what I've done)} 03:21, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, and so many people on the outside trying to break in and get rid of it. Anyone else in here? -Dylan0513 03:33, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Fyre was in here, but I don't know where he is. I think I lost him. He'll show up eventually. H2P ^{(Yell at me for what I've done)} 04:57, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I think they grabbed him and took him out. We need to be more careful. -Dylan0513 12:53, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Popups

Hey, you use Popups, can you tell me why I don't always see them? They come back if I go to my monobook page and shift+Refresh but even then sometimes they don't come back. H2P ^{(Yell at me for what I've done)} 16:03, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

They don't work for me sometimes too. I'm really not good at the technical wiki stuff so maybe you could check troubleshooting on the page or ask someone more knowledgeable. Sorry! -Dylan0513 20:40, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Day of the black sun

Dylan, I know that you know more info then us, but that info isn't "confirmed" in the Wikipedia sense of the term. When Nick releses information that proves that episoes name wrong, then you can change it, but as of now you can not without breaking wikipedia policy. The Placebo Effect 02:31, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Third Season

Is it just me, or is the third season of Avatar not all that great. It's actually really starting to just annoy me how they are treating these last few episodes. H2P ^{(Yell at me for what I've done)} 19:19, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what you're talking about, but I'm loving the season so far. In terms of plot and action, it'll pick up starting next episode. But I'm enjoying the less plot packed episodes while they last. -Dylan0513 01:54, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I'm Reporting You

I'm reporting you for cursing at me. And TVGuide.com is a correct source, as by the Placebo Effect. --Neilmodi 18:22, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Check the episode. -Dylan0513 19:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

You could have told me that the episode already came out. :| --Neilmodi 19:07, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

You could have actually payed attention... -Dylan0513 19:08, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

What do you have against me? I just added a reference people can use. --Neilmodi 01:02, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

You need to learn the rules. That is a fansite. -Dylan0513 01:41, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:Appa's lost days circus.JPG)

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[edit] Orphaned non-free media (Image:Appa's lost days suki.JPG)

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[edit] Avatar is The BEST

Who ever rifghts after me is the # avatar fan because avatar fans always would look up info about everything.

[edit] Disputed fair use rationale for Image:City of Walls and Secrets- Dai Lee.JPG

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[edit] Edit Summary

I know it was probably just annoyance due to all the stress of upcoming episodes in Avatar, but I just wanted to let you known you should try and avoid edit summaries that accuse editors as a "moron". The user most likely made the edit in good faith. I do not mean to accuse you of anything or to insult you, but I just wanted to let you know. (By the way, I will admit that I have done the same, so I am no angel.) — Parent5446 ^{(t n c k e l)} 02:46, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FAR notification for Avatar: the Last Airbender

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[edit] Wikipedia meetup

As someone who may live or work near Washington D.C., you may be interested - if you've not heard already - about the meetup scheduled for Saturday, May 17th, at Union Station. For details, please see Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 4.

You are receiving this automated message because your userpage appears in Category:Wikipedians in Maryland. Melon‑Bot (STOP!) 18:22, 9 May 2008 (UTC)