User talk:Dweller/Archive8

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[edit] Your user page

Gnomed. Hope you like it. The Rambling Man 16:28, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Is it close to what you were looking for? The Rambling Man 07:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

As always, glad to be of service...! The Rambling Man 07:37, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hoofmaster

FYI, it's back ... see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hoofmaster. —72.75.73.158 (talk · contribs) 17:47, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Old Bill

I've ref'd your obit. Hope it's all good. Ought you write one of your now famous To-do lists? The Rambling Man 07:32, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

What a groovy idea! --Dweller 08:38, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

By the way, have you noticed that NCFC has been nominated as a potential Article of the Week? What's that all about? The Rambling Man 09:17, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

No, I hadn't. How nice. Unless all FAs created that week have been nominated, lol. Seems from the talk page at WAW that there's some debate about its value. I have to say, ALoan has a point, when he notes that some weeks there are 3 or fewer articles promoted, lol. --Dweller 09:51, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I can't quite see it working myself, but anything that promotes good article writing is a good thing. I like the logo as well, a wikiglobe inside a 2 euro coin or something... The Rambling Man 10:11, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] VC Question

Hello Dweller. I wanted to follow up your post on my page with a question or two. You suggested I set up a section at VC. I assume you mean there on the talk page. Do I create just any topic that interests me? Are there any guidelines I need be aware of? Am I supposed to list myself somewhere? Sorry to pepper you with so many questions but I don't want to foul up a good thing. JodyB 11:48, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More old Bill

So, anything specific to address or ought this be peer reviewed? I've asked for a graph from Raven4x4x but he's not replied yet. He seems to do batting charts mainly, not sure how we can focus on O'Reilly's bowling stats in a similar way... thoughts? I can have a stab at an Excel graph, but what of? Oh, and only 6 hours to go at the other place, so when can I expect to co-nom you in return?! The Rambling Man 09:42, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I think there's a lot of work still to do on BOR. There's almost nothing there about his journalism. We could do with some stat tables against different opponents, man of the match, that kind of thing. I remember charts are difficult for bowlers, but can't remember why. Your RfA looks promising, lol. As for mine... you'll have to speak to The Transhumanist. Remember, as a condition of being accepted for coaching, I agreed not to stand until he thinks I'm ready. --Dweller 09:56, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Right, I'm going to get to work on the stats, tables, graphs etc.... leave it to me. The Rambling Man 10:07, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm looking for some more photos... it could be better illustrated. Also, the main section about his career is poorly and partially written in places; it's been jigsawed together and we've not yet disguised that fact. --Dweller 10:08, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Indeed. More soon... The Rambling Man 10:12, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Just a quick one, I don't believe Man Of The Match existed back then... but I could be wrong. The Rambling Man 10:29, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Okay, well a table for vs. opponents for batting and bowling is now included. I'm struggling to find a way to represent his bowling career, a progressive average graph isn't particularly exciting, nor is a graph of wickets vs time, so if you can think of a way of doing it and keeping it interesting, I'd love to hear it! The Rambling Man 15:59, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah. Problem is his lack of longevity - he only played 27 Tests. Fuhgeddaboudit? Alternatively, I wonder if we can get the ratings machine to show his rating? --Dweller 16:06, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Did they do ratings back then? The Rambling Man 16:08, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

They publish retrospective ones. But it's partial. I'll have a dig. --Dweller 16:10, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Ahah, I found this... The Rambling Man 16:12, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Amazing. As he only had 27 Tests and the clickable chart allows you to see each individual rating, it won't be too hard to reproduce. Shows his consistency (and brilliance) very nicely. --Dweller 16:20, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

This will help establish when he was #1. --Dweller 16:22, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Got the data now for both rankings and ratings, graph-time! The Rambling Man 16:32, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Graph done and cited, admin-ship conferred, new buttons available. Thank you for everything! The Rambling Man 17:09, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FA

Hello Dweller, you wrote on your essay "Better yet, use these instructions to take an article to Featured article candidates, and contact me during the process." I've had a featured article candidate up there for nearly a month without any legitimate opposes or supports :( See Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Buena Vista Social Club and add any comments if you have the time.-- Zleitzen^(talk) 11:48, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Goodness me. That's shocking. I'll certainly take a look. Meanwhile, have you contacted relevant WikiProjects? --Dweller 11:49, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Indeed. In fact, there's another couple down there including an article on someone called Jack Coggins that has barely been looked at for nearly a month. One article, Old Louisville was there so long the nominator gave up and the article simply deteriorated.-- Zleitzen^(talk) 11:57, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I have responded to your comments and made a few changes.-- Zleitzen^(talk) 13:25, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw. I'll get to it eventually! Just dealing with some other stuff here and in RL. Has the article had a third-party copedit? --Dweller 13:26, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

The article was third-party copyedited [1], and extensively copyedited over and over for weeks by myself to the last word before submission. I generally copy-edit other FA's and give grammar/syntax advice to nominators so I was a bit surprised that you thought it was a "sloppy copy".-- Zleitzen^(talk) 17:02, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Well it failed, so that's it for me I think, I don't think I'm going to waste any more time on this nonsense.-- Zleitzen^(talk) 10:54, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandal warnings

Hi, I noticed you haven't substituted the "test" templates on User talk:Ettiennewarner. I'm sure you know how, so just think of this as a friendly reminder :) James086^{Talk | Email} 12:56, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi James. In the depths of my archives, you'll find this addressed a few times. I use various computers, some of which can't utilise the full glory of monobooks plugins. I'm currently on one where I need to do everything "by hand". As such, perhaps arrogantly, I'm totally comfortable using my time to improve the project, rather than typing subst: repetitively, particularly when I know that a bot will come along and effortlessly do the job for me within a relatively short time. Anyway, thanks for blocking the vandal. --Dweller 12:59, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Ah well, if your doing it by hand I can understand the tediosity (if that's really a word). Keep it up. James086^{Talk | Email} 13:13, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Cheers. --Dweller 13:14, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Missed

Wrong namespace with your cricket essay - you need the full namespace. Yomangani^talk 15:40, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Not sure I understand, other than I fouled something up. Feel free to fix it. --Dweller 15:42, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

I've temporarily moved it to your userspace - User:Dweller/Dweller's Sri Lankan cricket team test. The Rambling Man 15:51, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

But I guess you may have moved it to the right place already...! I'll leave you to decide, apologies! The Rambling Man 15:57, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You've got....

mail! Ryan Postlethwaite 21:23, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] FAC peers on board

I invited the people at WP:FAC to critique your lesson. I hope you don't mind. But it didn't occur to me that they'd be ripping it to shreads like they do with featured article candidates. Sorry 'bout that. The Transhumanist    01:53, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Time for another...

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For all you do around these parts, for the effort involved, for the support of others, for always assuming good faith and for encouraging me to run for admin again, I, The Rambling Man, award you the Barnstar of Diligence. Thanks for all you do! The Rambling Man 07:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] TeckWiz's RFA

Hey Dweller. Thanks for commenting on my unsuccessful RFA last monthk under my old name, TeckWiz. I'm now known simply as User:R. I've been very busy lately which is why you're getting now. I will use your comment to help improve, and I hope to keep helping and improving Wikipedia alongside you. I would also like to thank you for saying that age doesn't matter. --TeckWiz is now R ^ParlateContribs_@(Let's go Yankees!) 16:05, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bill

Hey, how's it going? I see you're still working on your FAC lesson... hard going? I also noticed you're back on the old Bill, so where are we wandering from here? The Rambling Man 12:07, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi. I think the FAC lesson is now finished (though I've thought that before!) barring a clarification from Raul on the interesting issue Bishonen raised at the talk page. I think Bill needs some more cites, but he's basically there. How about asking WP:CRIC to help with the missing cites and then steaming on to Peer Review? I'll hang off on asking ALoan for his magic until some of the dust settles at PR. I think the copy needs a lot of work on smoothing the jigsaw pieces of different peoples' work, but no point until it's fairly stable. I need to refresh my memory on the order of Cat listings... and I'm a bit uncomfortable about the recent addition referring to his religion. Having a very bad day IRL so this is a lovely distraction. --Dweller 12:11, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, sorry to hear about your bad day. Hope your wiki-day isn't too bad... I'll have a look at what I can do about further citation on Bill and then I'll create a PR for it, they're usually very productive...! The Rambling Man 12:35, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

I've added what I can remember for the citations that are missing on the B O'R Talk page, but I'm away from home for a few days so can't be more precise. Johnlp 16:16, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

I saw, thanks! I should be able to find those Wisden refs online, I think. --Dweller 16:21, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Bill's page now has no more cn's, so ought I wrangle us up a peer review? Oh, and once I've done that, are we to move onto your castle desires?! The Rambling Man 17:09, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This stub is not a stub

Speedy requests expedited sir. The Rambling Man 09:30, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

<Blower's voice> Oh I say! --Dweller 09:33, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NCFC Hall of Fame

Hi - hope all is well. I won't lie and say that I wish that City's season wasn't over! It can only be uphill for the Canaries from here, I hope...

Anyway, good to see that you started a page for the Hall of Fame. I've put a few links and updates on some of the player pages - more to follow. I've also put on a link to the Hall of Fame page on the club's official site - there are a few directors/chairmen/managers/coaches etc on the list as well. I'll try and get some info on them up on the article as well. I reckon it'll take a lot of collective work to get the page 'complete', but hopefully it'll get there! EH74DK 17:23, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] It's time

Incidentally, by some rare coincidence of fate, The Transhumanist and Ryan Postlethwaite would like to nominate you simultaneously. Good luck, and let me know when you're ready to face the slings and arrows of misfortune....! The Rambling Man 20:46, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

good luck. -TT 21:01, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

You have now been transcluded. Good luck! And when you get a moment, back to Bill? What about me raising a Peer Review now? The Rambling Man 09:59, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Sounds great, thanks. --Dweller 10:04, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Good luck mate. Hope it all goes well for you! Extranet ^talk 03:09, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Harlech Castle

Okay, while Bill ponders, it's time, perhaps, to turn attention castle-wise? The Rambling Man 11:43, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey, see you're cracking on with the castle now, I most certainly don't have any resources for this so you'll have to point me in the direction of stuff I can do to help... like I added the infobox for example... Hope all's well with you... The Rambling Man 13:39, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Not feeling so well IRL, but I'll survive. No idea what's available online - maybe good places to start for reffed info is other Wikipedia articles on the construction, sieges etc. Not feeling too creative right now, sorry! ;-) --Dweller 13:41, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

No worries. Sorry to hear you're not 100%. I've just been awarded a promotion at work today so I'm preeeeetttty happy. Admin + promotion in (nearly) the same week. Hurrah! Re:HC, I'll see what I can find... The Rambling Man 13:44, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

I've made some adjustments to Bill following a couple of comments (and the automated review) in the peer review, we need to revisit the lead because it's probably too long and may well introduce new information (e.g. his height and bowling style, it may need moving out and re-inserted further in...)... your thing isn't going too badly either. Hurrah. The Rambling Man 11:06, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey, Bill's article is going well, I've addressed a lot of the comments at the peer review so hopefully in a couple of days we can take it to FAC. You seem to be continuing to do okay at the other place so nothing more to say there. Hope you're doing okay IRL and I look forward to progressing both Bill and Harlech Castle with you! (That sounded terribly formal, what's happened to me!).... The Rambling Man 00:54, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Just in case...

...you only pop by briefly, there's an optional question waiting for you at your RFA. Hope all's well... The Rambling Man 17:48, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

And a second one arrived overnight. Cheers for now. The Rambling Man 09:57, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and I put Bill up at FAC today, four supports thusfar with all comments dealt with. While I wait for you to return to point me in the direction to help Harlech castle, dare I suggest we tackle Bobby Robson at some point in the future? Arguably (one of) the greatest English coaches of all time, success at Ipswich, England, Barcelona, PSV & Porto. Article's already in half-decent shape, has ONE (that's ONE) citation for the whole thing so that's a good place for me to start. Let me know what you think. Hope you've had a good weekend. The Rambling Man 17:01, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, I've made a start on Sir Bobby, I think this'll turn out rather well! The Rambling Man 18:08, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I'll respond at your place. --Dweller 10:36, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Glad to see you back. Wikiproject FA drive sounds good but the WP:1FAPQ seems have covered that already. I kind of like the pick something we like and go-for-it approach... Hmm. Perhaps further discussion is required. In the meantime, Bill's doing well, your thing's going well, Harlech castle is going well, I'm making a start on Sir Bobby, hurrah. The Rambling Man 12:13, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Hmm. Think we should list our stuff there? --Dweller 12:20, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Men of Harlech

As promised, I went to the library this morning (OK, OK, not just for this, I confess) and uncovered one or two bits and pieces about Harlech. I take it you already have the A. J. Taylor guidebook? There is also a brief piece by him in the Archaeology Journal, volume 132, 1976 pp 258-60. From Plantagenet England, 1225-1360 by Michael Prestwich you can have this: At Harlech it is easy to see a further development of the type of castle built after the first Welsh War. A massive inner ward, with great twin-towered gatehouse providing accommodation as well as defence, dominated. A narrow outer ward with a much less formidable curtain wall followed the concentric principle. (2005, p. 156). Or this from The Age of Conquest: Wales, 1063-1415 by R. R. Davis; Architecturally, it is in these Welsh fortresses that the medieval castle reached the limits of its capacity as a military device. Here-and particularly at Harlech and Beaumaris-the idea of the keepless castle, whose strength lay in its twin set of curtain walls and in massively imposing gatehouses, was taken to its logical conclusion. Some of the detailed constructional and architectural features of the castles-such as the use of hellicoidal or inclined scaffold paths, the appearance of full-centred semicircular arches, and distinctive characteristics of garderobe and window construction-can be paralleled only in Savoy, and once more underline the formative role of Master James of St Georges and his fellow workers in their construction. It can be said of each of them that they combine a marvellous sense of power with great beauty of line and form, whether in the dramatic cliff-top splendour of Harlech, the wonderful integration of castle and town-walls at Conway, the imperial expansiveness of Caernarfon, or the faultless symetry of Beaumaris. Militarily and psychologically they achieved their purpose: they broke the spirit of the Welsh. (2006 reprint. pp. 359-60) You will get much more information on Master James of Saint Georges, and the details of Edward's castle building programme in Wales, including the expenses, in J. Garonway Edwards 'Edward I's Castle Building in Wales', in the Proceedings of the British Academy, vol. 32, pp. 15-81, 1946. I can find nothing more up to date than that, though it probably could not be bettered as a detailed scholarly analysis. Good luck! Clio the Muse 13:37, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome...

...to WP:100! The Rambling Man 20:04, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ma'alot massacre on this Day in History page

Yes I see your point, adding spin was not my intention, although none of the deaths (at the school) may have occurred had the attack not happened. Avoiding an encyclopaedic entry on the “this day in history” pages is always a balance. I will remove the Sayeret Matkal reference, let people read the article. However I am not sure the article itself is totally unbiased, although I can’t quite put my finger on any one thing in particular, and certainly before making any changes to it will make more than sure of my facts, anything in that geographical area is likely to be a matter of considerable passion. --Drappel 12:14, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely. --Dweller 12:17, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Category: Hall Cricket

This is not the same game as the two articles that are being referred to. Both of those related to the same game using a tennis ball in a long corridor. Hall cricket uses a table tennis ball in a short corridor. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Emptyart (talk • contribs) 20:09, 15 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Corridor Cricket

I looked up the deletion discussion for it. It seems it was moved to here: BJAODN because it was considered to be well written, so I was able to look it up. --Emptyart 23:31, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bill, again

I added a couple of "explanations" on the FAC notes for B O'R for two points raised by your learned friend. The second "bat" is definitely a ball and I've altered that in the script. BTW (and I'll post this note on User:The Rambling Man's talkpage too), in the Wisden references where there is a Part II, it's to do with the pagination of Wisden rather than a second part of any single article. Until the 1937 edition, the paging started with Part I page 1, which included all the stuff about cricketers of the year, notes by the editor, births and deaths, laws and public schools, and this went on for about 300 or so pages. Part II was then the chronicle of the previous season and started with another page 1, and Part II then usually extended for about 700 further pages, finishing in distant colonies and then with the fixtures for the coming year. I'm not sure how to do references properly, so am chickening out of doing the deed myself (though I altered one that was wrong). Johnlp 21:08, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Excellent, thank you. --Dweller 21:38, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Apologies, missed all past noon today due to corporate jolly. Hurrah, but nothing constructive from me so sorry! I'll be back at some point tomorrow (hopefully!).... The Rambling Man 21:53, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

You may be interested to read this as you're name checked. Looks like we've done something to upset Zleitzen. He's added a few comments at Bill's FAC, I've tried to address them but I don't know if it'll cut the mustard with him. The Rambling Man

[edit] Congrats

Well, those 100 odd opposers never showed up in the end. Well done, enjoy the buttons when they eventually arrive! The Rambling Man 09:56, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, thanks. I don't mind waiting - I've been a non admin this long, another few hours or even days won't matter! I might do some reading from the admin reading list to refresh my mind. --Dweller 10:15, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Anything you say Mr Admin, sir! I'm away this weekend and then away for a fortnight from the following weekend so I'm going to have a tough time finding the books, but since I'm in Suffolk they should be easily available once I get a chance to go to town. And I do like the idea of the graph, I'll have a stab at that once I get the statistics. Perhaps the next few weeks are a good time for you to focus on Harlech Castle! The Rambling Man 10:16, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Another member of the football-FA-creating cabal gets the buttons :) Congrats mate, and don't forget to remember to use your skillz writing FA's even when you get them. Cheers, Daniel 13:18, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

My congratulations also. By the way, are you ever on IRC? WjBscribe 13:53, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Were you on freenode, and did you try joining the channel #wikipedia ? WjBscribe 14:04, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. I see you now have shiny buttons to play with anyway :). Enjoy. By the way, although we have over 1,200 adminstrators, you are only the 15th to be promoted with the support of 100+ editors and no opposers... WjBscribe 14:12, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

I've never heard such a good proof for "RfA is broken", lol --Dweller 14:14, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Premature RfA Congratulations

Good afternoon (GMT time); although a Bureaucrat hasn't stopped by to click the promote button, by the looks of it you're as good as a sysop. Congratulations, and use the mop well!

Kindest regards,
Anthony 13:44, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Adminship

Congratulations, you are now an administrator - with almost unanimous support! If you haven't already, now is the time look through the Wikipedia:Administrators' how-to guide and Wikipedia:Administrators' reading list. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me, or at the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. Warofdreams talk 14:03, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I'm pleased to see that the user has now clarified how they would like their comments to be interpreted, so the support for your adminship is now unanimous. Warofdreams talk 14:22, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations Dweller! Enjoy the tools :) – Riana ⁂ 14:05, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

..----Cometstyles 14:07, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations! I am sure you will make good use of the AwesomeCosmicPower™. -- ALoan (Talk) 15:29, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations, thoroughly well deserved! Ryan Postlethwaite 15:48, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations Dweller. You wil truly be an admin of the people. Looking forward to more fruitful work on Wikipedia. I've got 180k of cricket article expansions ready on my hard drive. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 04:51, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Adrock02

I left a comment about this on my talk page. You are right...thanks.—Gaff ^ταλκ 16:27, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

• Dweller, I put a last warning on his page today - he had vandalized IBT again earlier, reverting it back to what he apparently wanted. I went {{uw-vandal4}}, as I as well saw no contravened warnings, but considering his blatant ignorance of the rules, I'm not sure that a vandal4 is quite enough. Your call. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 00:16, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

I will follow your advice, and will get back to you!! Thanks again! Politics rule 18:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Congrats

I'd knew you'd make it. But breaking 100, well that's impressive. Awesome. The Transhumanist    18:33, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ok, cool, but next...

Don't know how you're feeling with your new buttons but I wonder how much mileage there is in a lesson for new admins? I certainly could have done with some pointers, or, if such a beast exists, being pointed that way upon elevation! Perhaps I missed a trick. I dunno, but perhaps a Newbie Admin FAQ or similar (along the lines of the virtual classroom..)? Anyway, just an idea for the future. In the meantime, enjoy dealing with the backlog & the backlash, more on Sunday (I'm off to Zagreb for a couple of days), keep fighting with Bill and Harlech. The Rambling Man 18:59, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 4 captains

Oops on my Roman/Chinese confusion. That was careless of me. I'm still unconvinced that whoever coined the "summer of the four captains" would have been aware of the parallel, but if you want to revert my edit then I'll leave it be. I was probably rather precipitate not to have brought it up on the talk page before altering the article. JH (talk page) 20:05, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Look down from on high.

You are now among the Gods, staring down on the mere mortals. Very well done! I left a message for you on the other matter on my talk page. Love and kisses Clio the Muse 03:48, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] EZ-Tracks

Would you be opposed to a Copyvio tags then from this press release and this about us page? Wildthing61476 14:47, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh and to add, this page was deleted earlier this week speedily written EXACTLY as is. Wildthing61476 14:48, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again, I tried to explain to her as nicely as possible without saying it's one big advert! Wildthing61476 15:13, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Undeletion

Hi Dweller, if you mistakenly delete an article and then undelete it, you need to make sure that you restore all previous revisions of the article, not just the latest one. See [2]. In that case with only one editor it isn't so important but obviously where there are multiple editors GFDL require everything to remain attributable to each editors. WjBscribe 15:07, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Yes, I was aware, but the interface didn't make it immediately clear to this dummy how I was supposed to do that. I assumed that by ticking the box next to the most recent version, I was doing what was needed. When I checked afterwards and found I'd messed up, I supposed the correct thing to do was tick all the boxes. Any advance on that? lol. --Dweller 15:11, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

If you either click on all of the boxes or none of the boxes, it undeletes the lot. You only really need to click them if you want to undeleted selected revisions. WjBscribe 17:26, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome. Should I be able to add a external link to the site for users or is that not allowed? Nikki4u 16:43, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mahendra Singh Dhoni

i expanded the lead para but i am afraid it lacks the finesse. can you please review the section and let me know your feedback. Also, if there are statements that need validation, please add the fact tag and i shall add the necessary citations. thanks. Kalyan 19:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bobby Robson

Here is the information you are looking for, dear Dweller. You will find it all on pages 301-2 in Farewell but Not Goodbye.

CLUB G W L D

PSV (90-1) 38| 26| 5| 7

PSV (91-2) 38| 26| 2| 10

SPORTING (92-3) 41| 22| 8| 11

SPORTING (93-4) 18| 12| 4| 2

PORTO (93-4) 27| 18| 3| 6

PORTO (94-5) 45| 37| 4| 4

PORTO (95-6) 48| 31| 4| 13

BARCELONA (96-7) 58| 38| 8| 12

PSV (98-9) 38| 20| 8| 10

Clio the Muse 22:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Yiddish vs. Hebrew naming

Dear Dweller, it seems to me that there's some confusion in the explanation you offered on the Language Reference Desk (1.2, May 15), in referring to "...a Yiddish "Hebrew" [sic] name". This is a subject with which I deal fairly extensively in my work as a translator of Eastern European Jewish archival material. I'm writing a further explanation to distinguish between Yiddish and Hebrew names and their respective purposes. Even though the date appears to have already been archived and the OP was a "no-account" poster ;-) and may not revisit the page for further responses (several of which I added after my recent mini-Wikibreak), I'd still like to provide the clarification, for what it's worth! -- Cheers, Deborahjay 05:56, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] You've got mail

email, that is.

-TT 18:28, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hey

I left a message early. I was looking at Wjb's talk page where you said "you'd butted in a rude way". That is not true! Again, thanks for your comment! Politics rule 01:19, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Back, for a bit...

Hey, thanks for the award, I have no idea how you got hold of that photo of us hanging out...! I'm still sure that a FAQ for newbie admins "lesson" may be a good thing..., how have you been getting on with the tools? I've predominantly worked on the WP:CSD backlog, I reckon three or four hundred deletes so far. Only half a dozen or so blocks on vandals, so far, so good... (although I got a trout at the deletion review a while back...!). I'm back for six days before I head off again so I'm focusing on Sir Bobby in the meantime, Bill's gone might quiet... The Rambling Man 18:21, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Aha, Lord's. Awesome, we may even win a test match this time! You name it, nom it, point me at it and I'll offer whatever is needed...! Let me know if there's anything specific you need to get it sorted. Coolio. The Rambling Man 19:57, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hail and farewell

Alas, my dear Dweller, Clio (Anastasia, actually) is leaving. You will see a general note on my user page, but I wanted to say farewell on person. I will check my talk page from time to time just in case you want any more info. on castles or football managers. You could always email me, if you prefer. The very best of luck from Clio the Muse 03:55, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: User:Asheboy

Hi, welcome to mopdom! My rule of thumb is to clear both boxes if blocking indefinitely, but to leave both boxes checked if the block is for a fixed amount of time. Hope that helps, Waggers 10:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your warning

Hi, I replaced your message on user Lolimfunny's talk page. In my opinion it qualified as biting the newcomer. I'd like to encourage you to use the generic, non threatening, message templates instead. Regards LittleOldMe 10:42, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. I'm normally exceptionally careful not to bite newbies. This particular user's choice of username and edit summaries meant I actually considered blocking... and was being unbitey by merely warning. My carefully worded message was designed to wake them up to the fact that they are being watched, which the generic messages do not. I also wanted to notify them that I'd already speedied their copyvio. --Dweller 10:46, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I can understand how that happens, and I did not wish to tread on your toes. I find that the written word is often easy to misconstrue because the person reading it gets no emotive feedback. Something intended to be informative can appear abrupt and rude or bossy. My immediate response to your message (when it came up as a conflict with mine) was that it seemed too threatening as a first message, so I replaced it. But obviously, that was only my opinion. Regards LittleOldMe 11:00, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Derry City F.C. FAC

Hey dude, I've been trying to help out at the above, how do you fancy reviewing the article and providing comment? It's in a much better state than it was all down to Danny Invicible's endurance (know how that feels?!) so it'd be good if we could both be happy with the article and support him to promotion to FA? Just a thought (in case you were feeling idle!!). Oh, and bad light for the draw, dull ending warning. Mind you, the way Lord's was batting meant little or no hope of a conclusion if you ask me. 500s all round... The Rambling Man 18:30, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and User:Cometstyles is heading for a co-nom after some gentle guidance, go see his talk page for more... The Rambling Man 20:48, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Clio is back

Clio is back, Dweller, and I know you know why! Love Clio the Muse 23:58, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cricket

Yes, thanks. Delighted you're back. Are you waiting for hard disk failure, or are you going to share the wealth!?! --Dweller 09:43, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, due to DYK restrictions, I will release them one at a day, otherwise there would be some kind of diplomatic incident about alleged Anglophile Monkey, and in particular one alleged Anglophile trying to launch trans-Atlantic cultural attacks. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 08:28, 22 May 2007 (UT

oh, go on - go for five (or six) (or more?) DYKs at the same time :) -- ALoan (Talk)

Per WP:DICK, I'm going to avoid the grievous temptation to make a five dyks at the same time joke. --Dweller 13:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

And well done on O'Reilly. I guess I helped just a little. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 06:46, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Here's the details. I need to fatten a few more of them up so that they will meet the DYK 5x expansion rule. User:Blnguyen/Cricket organising. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:45, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Test match template

No, I think we should leave well alone for the moment. I had no end of trouble with the previous template and judging by discussions still on-going at WT:CRICKET, it seems that there's no real consensus yet. Besides, what we have looks fine and I'm sure there's no FA criteria that say we need to use specific templates for articles...! The Rambling Man 13:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Your sandbox has updated. I slightly modified something AGK said, see if you can tell the difference (I hope he doesn't mind!) The Rambling Man 16:57, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Cool. I'll post him an offer either later today or tomorrow morning and then we'll see how it goes. I'm outa touch for a fortnight starting this Saturday so if he's not ready to transclude by then, ball's back in your court! The Rambling Man 18:21, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Ahah, you've already posted the invitation. Nicely done. The Rambling Man 18:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] B O'R FA

Well done! Johnlp 06:44, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Admin

Congrats on becoming an administrater!

Politics rule 10:52, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 1958-59 cup run

Hi there. Well done on becoming an admin.

I'm planning to put together an article for Wikipedia on City's 1958-59 cup run, but thought I'd run the idea past you first as I want to make sure it meets the criteria etc for a wikipedia article and that my work isn't wasted following deletion of the article! There are plenty of good sources for the subject and I've created pages already for some of the players who were involved. Look forward to any comments that you might have. --EH74DK 11:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A bit late, but....

Congratulations on your successful nomination for adminship G'day Dweller, It's a bit too early in the morning to think for myself, (does that clock really say 1:40?) but I'd like to get my message across anyway. To borrow somebody else's words, "I give you my congratulations, condolences, and strongest exhortation to give it up and take up www.knittingonline.com" It's good to know that there are plenty of other Australian Wikipedians out there, it's even better to know that another has been given the mop! I hope to see you around, and if there are three pieces of advice I can give you (I'm supposed to do this, right?), it's to not burn yourself out, take plenty of wikibreaks, and above all do not delete the Main Page. Cheers mate, welcome to the cabal. --Michael Billington (talk) 15:40, 25 May 2007 (UTC) My 10,000th edit - I figured I'd do something nice, sorry I couldn't find a better image!

[edit] Off

Hey, just a quick word to say have a good couple of weeks. I'm off to Cuba for a fortnight and expect that there's zero chance of getting on-line. I'm still working on Sir Bobby trying to source a good image and with Clio's help the stats are there now. A bit more effort when I return and we'll get him up to FA. I'd be delighted to be !voting on Harlech by the time I get back...! In any and all cases, best of wishes for the interim, more soon. Oh, and on that classic "will we ever meet"... why not? I promise not to be a psychopath (I'll even bring my other half!)...The Rambling Man 21:59, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] notstub tag

Hello there, peaceful gnome. Your peace is about to be shattered as the belligerent one is back again!  ;-) But I'm a very relaxed gnome at present after being on holiday.

I found your mail of 8 May in the archive and I think the notstub tag is a great idea. It must be because my mate George is already using it and not even I dare argue with him!! Seriously, though, I think it's very useful especially as it's discreet. I'll start using it myself on some of the old players' biographies where there is only a minimal amount of data in existence.

Did Rambling Man get his adminship: I remember I voted for him just before I went away?

Best wishes. --BlackJack | ^{talk page} 15:05, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ronald True

After reading the article with a more discerning eye, I agree that the article's subject is sufficiently notable and that I'd been a little overzealous with speedy delete. Senordingdong 11:34, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] r u retarded

is jokey even a word?!?!?! Mind your own buisness and let me ruin your website —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kangarooclavicle (talk • contribs)

No I'm not, yes it is and no I won't respectively. But thanks for dropping by my talk page. --Dweller 15:59, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ryan Chimzar

Thank you for your time. I will continue to work on the article and will repost it when finished. Chimzar 16:09, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re:signature

Hi Dweller - thanks, I do appreciate your thoughts. However, it doesn't take much for someone to doubt the calibre of another's contribs - stellar or otherwise. While you pay compliment to my contribs, I'm involved in an ArbCom case where I'm being painted as a forger and liar. And that has nothing to do with my signature... :) Visit ANI or any other place here, and you'll find the same thing. People don't look for any particular excuse to attack someone's reputation/credibility/contribs, etc.

I'm not being vulgar, just humorously prurient (if you don't want to buy the truth, that I am indeed who I claim to be). If people want to judge a book by its cover or take offense over non-existent issues, that's their problem, not mine. I can't be concerned with other people's prejudices. Cheers, Rama's arrow (just a sexy boy) 15:53, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

And apart from this discourse into human nature, I should inform you that I've changed my signature several times over the last 10 months and I will prolly change it again when I feel like it, but certainly not to accomodate anybody else's prejudices. Rama's arrow (just a sexy boy) 15:55, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi there. I don't doubt your good faith intentions. It's just that if my time here has taught me nothing else, it's that peoples' cultural sensitivities vary wildly. This is a truly international resource and we should bear that in mind. Not sure why sticking with a controversial sig (I'm not the first to raise the issue) is a big deal for you, but it doesn't offend me personally and that's your decision. Anyway, good luck in your ArbCom case. --Dweller 16:01, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User:Kangarooclavicle

Will watch, thanks. NawlinWiki

[edit] Oversight

Please do not publicly post edits like this. See Wikipedia:Requests for oversight. I have moved the bad edit to a different deleted page history User:JoanneB/delete2 for the moment, so only admins can access it. Oversight is probably a good idea, though; will you request it? Kusma (talk) 10:32, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. No previous exp. of oversight. Trying to sort it now. --Dweller 10:32, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

I've zapped 'em. If you see things like phone numbers, personal information that could put someone in danger, etc. (the idea is: information not even admins should be able to see), send the diff to oversight-l@lists.wikipedia.org and we'll zap the dangerous stuff. - David Gerard 10:39, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. Seems that the list of oversight users is very short. There are loads of outstanding admins out there... how can I nominate someone for oversight tools? --Dweller 10:41, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Because it's a very powerful tool - being able to eliminate revisions so not even admins can see them - the list is very restricted. But it's basically anyone from the Arbitration Committee who wants it, ex-arbitrators who want it, stewards, maybe a couple of other people. At present we keep up with things okay, and emails to the list are usually dealt with quickly (I think the slowest was over Christmas) so there isn't a pressing need for more people as far as we can tell - David Gerard 11:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

OK. My request was certainly handled v. swiftly. --Dweller 11:10, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Moonv6

Mmm, salting. Well you can edt Moonv6, add {{deletedpage}} and protect it. Or you can do a protected title thing: Wikipedia:Protected titles (I'm not quite sure which list to use there). The last time I salted a page I tried out the "salt" button in Twinkle, just go to Moonv6 and hit the "salt" tab. It uses a protected titles page in Steel's userspace, I'm not sure if they clear the page after a while - I should ask sometime.--Commander Keane 20:01, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I checked out WP:SALT and got the gist of it. Think I did it OK. If not, let me know. --Dweller 21:44, 31 May 2007 (UTC)