Template talk:Dutch dialects

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Contents 1 Dutch Low Saxon 2 To the above 3 Afrikaans 4 Low Dietsch

[edit] Dutch Low Saxon

Since when is DLS considered a Dutch dialect in mainstream linguitics? Please show some (English) non-chauvinistic sources. Until then, DLS goes, as it is a minority of (Dutch) linguists who share this view, including Rex, though this should be dealt with in detail at the article. What you are (rightfully so) conceding is that a Low German family does exist. Please refrain fromr everting until sources are brought up front. Ulritz 21:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

I refuse to communicate with you as long as you refuse to participate in wikipedia dispute resolution. You might have gotten away with refusing a mediation, I don't think you'll get away with ignoring an Arbcom case.Rex 22:07, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

According to the European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages, Limburgish and Dutch Low Saxon (as spoken in Drenthe, not Niedersachsen)are not Dutch dialects. Here is a Dutch Low Saxon source [1] free of any chauvinist bias. Ulritz 22:08, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] To the above

I will be removing both Limburgish and Low Saxon/German from this template unless actual sources are shown stating that the two languages are Dutch dialects -- as far as my knowledge is concerned, they are German dialects, with Limburgish having leanings towards Dutch. Antman -- chat 08:22, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Afrikaans

Isn't Afrikaans recognised as a separate language from Dutch, rather than just being a dialect? Likewise, surely the accepted English name for it is "Afrikaans" these days, not "African Dutch"? Dewrad (talk) 03:35, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Low Dietsch

This is part of a wider set of varieties already mentioned in this template. Continuing to include this, is a precedent. Sarcelles (talk) 16:50, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Being a part of a wider set does not preclude a subject from also being dealt with in particular. Nor would this be unprecedented. The same holds true for French Flemish. Ad43 (talk) 14:41, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

French Flemish should be different enough, in the case of Low Dietsch I doubt that.

Sarcelles (talk) 17:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

And there is another striking parallel here. Both Low Franconian dialects are situated in regions under French speaking administration. This already threatens their very existence. From this point of view alone special attention seems more than justified. Ad43 (talk) 14:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)