User:Dustihowe/AC

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[edit] Initial round

NOTES: Leave your editor review running this whole time. Don't be touchy about constructive comments. Don't look too eager to be an admin or in too much of a hurry, looking too eager will hurt you. We need to built your edit count with quality edits. Wiki is a compllicated place, you need lots of experience to be an admin. RFAs with less that 2000k edits rarely succeed, esp if almost half are talk pages like yours.

  • Why do you want to be an admin?
I want to be an admin because with the tools, I feel that I can contribute more to Wikipedia. Part of what I am already doing (RC and NP patrol) would be a lot easier if I had the tools. I think that I would use them more and more as time goes by, not that I would have to, but because I wouldn't really be limited on what I can do (if that makes sense). I dont want to sound like I'm power hungry or anything, so don't get me wrong.
  • What admin areas do you want to work in?
I will still do some RC and NP patrol, but I will also work with Speedy Deletion nom's and do some more anti-vandal work. I will also watch AIV
  • Why do you talk on your own talk page so little? Answer people's questions, best to do where it was asked to avoid broken threads.
Usually, I tend to answer on other people's talk pages, but if you think that it will be more benificial to talk on my page, then I will start doing so and start using the talkback template.
Most people prefer unbroken threads
  • You have 1697 edits, but only 461 in mainspace. This will hurt for now. You need to build up your mainspace edits. Almost half your edits are talk pages. Work on articles.
I will do that, quick question though. My preferences page, it says I have 2,002 edits. I will agree that some edits are on talk pages, as I warn users on vandalism, ect. and I will also still do some Welcoming Committee work.
  • Your pref page counts deleted edits. Most of the edit counters don't; that's the difference.
My first RFA is here]. The only difference is one has the "d" capitalized and the other one isn't. The first RFA I did was simply stupid. I had just joined Wikipedia and had no clue what I was doing, so please don't hold that against me. The second one I did, I thought I might have a chance, but I still had few edits. I learned I still have some work to do. I needed to learn more about Speedy critieria, which I am still doing, and I also needed to learn more about Wikipedia in general.
  • One of your RFA issues was bad speedy calls. You need to show you've fixed this concern. Read the speedy criteria, and work in speedy cats until you get lots of good feedback on improvement. Contact users who work there a lot for advice.
I will do that
  • Pick one other admin area to start working in. What's the choice?
I think since I had issues recently with closing AFD's, I am going to slowly start working there. Good choice?
  • Yes

Thank you for accepting me and I hope that with your help, I will not only learn more about Wikipedia and come away with more experience, but will also get a successful RFA. Happy Editing, Dustitalk to me 17:20, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

  • You said somewhere you can't have email. Why? If you can have a free wiki account, why not a free hotmail or gmail account?
The IT Coordinator here has all mail host sites blocked like G-Mail, Yahoo, ect...
  • I responded where I felt it was needed. Ask most of your questions here. I watch it. If I don't respond in two days or so, ping my talk page. The rest of your plan sounds good.
Again, thank you.

[edit] RFA Autocracy

I'll be on wikibreak 21-29 Mar. As for RFA/Autocracy, you made a calm, rational, constructive comment. I think you did well. — Rlevse • Talk • 14:58, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. While your on wikibreak, can you leave me a list of projects to work on? I.E. AFD scenerios ect.? Dustitalk to me 17:24, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Move steadier to the not-so-obvious cases at AFD. Also start branching out to things like SSP, write your observations in the "comments" section, what you think should happen but DO NOT close them. If you have questions while I am gone, ask MBisanz. — Rlevse • Talk • 18:06, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Confused here....reword maybe? Also, what do you want me to do to with SSP? Dustitalk to me 18:26, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Try to close the AFDs that aren't so much a clear cut decision, the "tougher calls". See WP:SSP, each case has a "comments" section for people who aren't closing the case to say what their view is. — Rlevse • Talk • 18:55, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. Dustitalk to me 19:09, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

If you have questions while I'm gone, ask User:MBisanz. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:15, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Issues

Just got back from my trip. I saw these: [1], [2]. . How's he doing otherwise? The main page is protected. YOu can't b e giving somein fab ors for things like GA just because they're an admin. It violates integrity. — Rlevse • Talk • 01:44, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I just commented. I wasn't offering a favor just because he was an admin, and I explained in that comment. The article was up to par, after he made the suggested changes. I was simply letting him know that if he hadn't already, relist it and I would review it. Any other comments or suggestions? Dustitalk to me 16:18, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
OK, but it obviously caused confusion and made the appearance of such, so be more careful in your wording. — Rlevse • Talk • 21:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
I will definatley do that Dustitalk to me 16:00, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

How's the AFD experience going? Try and harder decisions yet? Don't do anything reserved for admins. Try WP:SSP, make suggestions. Let me know the ones you comment on. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:56, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

AFD is going well, in my opinion, with a little help from Keeper, I have closed some close ones. I have done a little on SSP, and will merge into that soon, maybe even today. I will let you know which ones I comment on from now on. There are some that I have commented on, and I will provide a link soon. Dustitalk to me 16:09, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Links:

  • Wikipedia:SSP#User:Joan97
    • Four accts is a bit much. The question is, are any of them violating WP:SOCK? If yes, blockable. If not, as him to use only one account.
  • Wikipedia:SSP#User:TheNewHubris
    • This one was already blocked so I tagged it and the ones from the first case (cleaning up sloppy admin work, the blocker should have tagged them). — Rlevse • Talk • 17:57, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Work?

Is it possible for you to give me some possible situations that I may come across as an admin (i.e. close AFD's, speedy delete requests, blocking situations, ect) for practice? Dustitalk to me 18:40, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Have you looked at CFD? Read WP:AN and WP:ANI and just ponder what you think about them. You can comment if you like. I have to leave for the weekend now but will be back Sunday afternoon. We can work on this more then. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:11, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Just now got this message, will be back at 1:00 (my time) to reply. Dustitalk to me 15:58, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I just looked at CFD and if I may, I don't really like it (not that its a bad thing, just, its not my area). Also, I looked at WP:AN and WP:ANI and I have visited there and am kinda familiar with the "going-on's" there. Dustitalk to me 17:20, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
OK, any other admin areas you're interested in? Also, familiarize yourself with username policy, WP:UAA and WP:RFU. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:06, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I am familiary with Username policy and Requests for unblock. This may be a bad thing to say, however, I probably won't be very active in unblocking unless an admin admits to wrongdoing or the block was rediculous. Dustitalk to me 20:24, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
How do you feel about your preps? What do you feel still weak in? You should watch spelling and grammar, I see enough to mention it, like "rediculous" is spelled wrong. If an RFA were run now, what do you think the outcome would be? — Rlevse • Talk • 20:44, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
I feel "ok" about my preps, as I understand some policies better than I did when I started. As far as typo's go, sorry, I type fast and really should start to proof before hitting "save" :). I don't know about the RFA...what do you think? Dustitalk to me 16:14, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Stir up

What stir up? Give me some links. — Rlevse • Talk • 16:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

My talk page. Dustitalk to me 16:47, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Wow. At first glance, when you're told to stop, stop, step back, reanalyze, and seek guidance. For now, stop all closings and let me look into this a bit more. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, waiting! Dustitalk to me 16:12, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Here's my honest candid opinion...You close AFD's too soon, basically making snap decisions based on one particular argument or another--not waiting long enough for input from enough people. Then you didn't stop after an admin told you to stop. Then you got upset and it showed. You need to be serious about this and listen to those with more experience. I think you're too eager to be an admin right now. You need some seasoning time. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:26, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I see some of that, and I am working on that as we speak....well- not exactly as we speak, but you know what I mean. Now, as far as the AFD's go, I read all arguments and weighed heavily on policy. If there was a clear cut majority or a clear cut hole in the argument then I would close the AFD. Now, looking back, I need to back off and close the more obvious ones, staying away from the "bold" decisions. I am working with Keeper to do this, and waiting until May 10th to start closing again. Between now and then he and I will be working together working with the policy and making sure hat I understand what I am doing when I close these AFD's. Dustitalk to me 20:59, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Be extremely careful for awhile, prob 1-3 months. It'll take that for any real chance at a successful RFA. — Rlevse • Talk • 23:40, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

What would you like me to be doing? Dustitalk to me 17:28, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
Any admin area but xFDs for awhile. Let this blow over first. — Rlevse • Talk • 18:02, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I have done some RC patrolling and some minor things happened there, taken care of (by Keeper), or at least its in the process of being dealt with. So, what's up? I have done commenting in some AFD's and have also dished out my opinion in 3rd Opinion Requests. Dustispeak and be heard! 17:27, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
I'll be gone most of this weekend. Have you commented ever at request moves and requested page protection? Check those out if you haven't already. — Rlevse • Talk • 18:43, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Winshill Commented at WP:RPP. Dustispeak and be heard! 20:44, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

I have commented at WP:RPP a couple of times, however request moves just doesn't seem to be my area. I have adopted a user, User:FGWQPR. Dusticomplain/compliment 20:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, moves in the right direction. You still need to lay low for awhile, keep working quietly and without controversy in admin type areas. — Rlevse • Talk • 20:50, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Any specific areas? I have been pretty active with AIV in reporting vandals. I've had one mistake there, and that one has recently settled down. Dusticomplain/compliment 15:49, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Whatever you feel like working in. The main thing is to show steady constructive work now, without any controversy. — Rlevse • Talk • 17:47, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: I'm Back

Now that I'm back from my enforced Wikibreak, I would like to know where you think I am and what can I do now to have a positive RFA? I think that now wouldn't be a good time to have one, due to my recent break, but what do you think I can do to have one in the near future? Dusticomplain/compliment 23:30, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I think you need to be active for awhile. They'll wonder why you were inactive. What was the deal with what was going on before you went on break? — Rlevse • Talk • 23:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
To be honest, I don't remember. Everyone that I have talked to understands why I was inactive, as it really wasn't my choice. What is your schedule for Wikipedia? Dusticomplain/compliment 23:54, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
It seems like we are hardly ever able to communicate with each other, because of Real Life. Is it possible for you to find someone to be a co admin coach? I've asked around myself, but the other Admin's that I am familiar with seem to also be busy. I'm wanting to do some more hand's on stuff, i.e. scenarios, ect. to test my judgement and knowledge of Wiki policy and issues that I will face once I'm an Admin. Dusticomplain/compliment 02:27, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
I'll ask the coach-coordinator, MBisanz. — Rlevse • Talk • 09:51, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Further discussion on Coaching

Glad to continue discussing with you here Dusti. A few other points. Something that is a big issue is for candidates who have failed a few RfAs (I believe you have), then get a coach, go through formal coaching, and come back again. People actually sometimes oppose over this unless the candidate is overwhelmingly strong. I'll pose a question to you here: Why do you think formal coaching will be better than having a little less formal discussion with the likes of Keeper, myself, and others when you want to talk about your actions, or have questions? Also, when you say you want to run in the near future, how near? Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 17:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

IMO, coaching is better because an admin can give the coachee scenarios that he/she may come up against. In that situation, the coachee can explain how he/she would react and the coacher will provide his/her opinion. I like the thought of that because it will prepare me more in my opinion, rather than say, trying to do it on my own. Also, I would like to run in the next month or so. Dusticomplain/compliment 17:29, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Those are some good points Dusti. In terms of your next RfA Dusti, I'll be honest, I think you have to be thinking more long term. I don't think you will have a succesful RfA within the next three months, you should be thinking more like six months down the road. I don't want to see another SNOW close when you really just need more time. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 17:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for being honest. I'll move my RFA date to September-October then...sound good? Dusticomplain/compliment 17:39, 3 June 2008 (UTC)