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[edit] Portrait of Dustin Hoffman

I find the portrait picture "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dustin_Hoffman_cropped.jpg" of poor quality (grainy, poor contrast) and would suggest placing another picture that could be used under "fair use". Anyone got an idea?

71.98.73.148 03:49, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sydney Pollack

I (mis?)remember Sydney Pollack saying that he'd gladly give back his Oscar for Tootsie, if only he could also give back the time he spent working with Hoffman. I've been unable to find again the interview/article/editorial where he expressed this opinion. Koyaanis Qatsi 01:43, 1 Sep 2003 (UTC)


Try this link, It's there. http://www.nndb.com/people/882/000022816/

Yeah, I heard that, it was in a book I was reading. That wacky Pollack. But Jessica Lange was the only person to get an Oscar out of Tootsie. Perhaps the comment was made much later on, after Out of Africa. ....(Complain)(Let us to it pell-mell) 08:37, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] dustin hoffman

he is a well person for actuar porque el lo realiza fantastica,mente

ditto! TripOnMyShip (talk) 09:38, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] POV

Could someone edit this article for POV? It seems like the article writer just can't get over how great Dustin Hoffman is. I want facts, not typical Hollywood hyperbole, like "Immortal actor Lawrence Oliver" or "Hoffman didn't want to do big, mindless films." Just show me what he did and I'll judge for myself. --Pathogen 18:39, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


Agreed. I'm very close to putting this article in more standard bio format, eliminating all the little discussions of his films that more properly belong in each film's own article. Objections? --Patchyreynolds 23:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


Absolutely agreed. I was going to suggest deleting it altogether.... Movies should be linked to, not explained here. ----David Be 16:09, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Family roots

Hoffman was born in Los Angeles, California to Jewish American parents, Harry Hoffman and Lillian Gold (who were born in Romania but whose parents Max and Pauline were born in Russia).

Whose parents were Max and Pauline? His mother's? His father's? One of each? Why are the given names of his grandparents even worthy of mention? JackofOz 03:44, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Complete filmography

I just watched Yours Mine and Ours starring Henry Fonda and Lucille Ball 1968 version. About halfway through when Henry Fonda approached the flight signaler to keep the mail plane from taking off so he could board and be with his wife (L. Ball) when she birthed. I believe that flight signaler was Dustin Hoffman. Sure looked like him anyways. Can anyone confirm?

[edit] Height

He may haver been 5'6" in his early years but people shrink with age so unless a recent measurement can be provided this stat should be removed. Gillean666


Please note: This is not a forum for general discussion about the article's subject.

What is it about then? Gillean666


[edit] Straw Dogs

Seeing as 'Straw Dogs" was made before Texas Chainsaw Massacre, it seems utterly pointless to say "Often (falsely) dubbed as England's answer to The Texas Chainsaw Massacre..." - unless one can offer some refeernce of someone saying that Straw Dogs was Engloand's answer to TCM. I've removed the point. --TTKK 20:37, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Structure of article

There's no reason for the Hoffman article to contain little paragraphs about each of his notable film, standing apart from almost every other cinema actor's article. Instead, he should have the standard filmography with separate mention made for only exceptional events in his career (e.g., a significant award, a move into directing, etc.). Any discussion of the individual film's plots, trivia, etc. should be on those individual pages. Any objections to my cutting those? --Patchyreynolds 22:05, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

No objections, totally reasonable. --David Be 16:11, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. This article also needs cleanup for Wikification, unsourced statements, and overly-effusive language. --JD79 01:17, 17 August 2007 (UTC)


Can anyone make an argument for maintaining the lengthy prose recitation of each film role Hoffman has taken? The filmography already accomplishes this. The career section does not exist to list every film (again) but to speak about notable roles, characters that proved of social impact, parts that have passed into film history, etc. Do "Mad City" and Sleepers" actually need to be mentioned in separate sentences? At all outside of the filmography? Much of the article--as it now stands--does nothing more than recite his filmography. Partly because of this, I think, topics that actually deserve a fuller unfolding--his renowned Oscar acceptance speech for "K vs. K," his famous difficulty during the production of "Salesman"--don't receive examination. Comments? --Patchyreynolds (talk) 16:13, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

All right, then. I'm about to do this. --Patchyreynolds (talk) 13:35, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Marathon Man2.jpg

Image:Marathon Man2.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

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[edit] Edits

In reading through the article, then consulting this page, I saw that there has been discussion about the extent to which details are taken and the POV since May of last year. I had a go at the article, and did some major surgery to the films section, mostly. It could stand more work, maybe paring down the films to the very major ones, and highlighting hits, misses and awards, leaving the rest to the filmography. I hope this doesn't cause too much controversy, but someone had to do it. Wildhartlivie (talk) 08:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:All the President Men.jpg

Image:All the President Men.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot (talk) 05:37, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers priority assessment

Per debate and discussion re: assessment of the approximate 100 top priority articles of the project, this article has been included as a top priority article. Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:35, 1 March 2008 (UTC)