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[edit] Possible HOAX spread regarding Death of Dustin Diamond

Added by user: Gisvlasta

On March 23rd 2007 user with IP 68.83.30.201 edited the article and claimed that Dustin Diamong died earlier this particular day. User wrote that 'Dustin Diamond was found dead in his home in Port Washington, Wisconsin of what is currently beleived to be a cerebral aneurysm'. However no citation was provided. Then user Dan102001 removed the 'death' part of the article. I did some research on the internet and I found no information in any official news website regarding his death. However I found a lot of references in old posts in forums regarding his death. It seems that Dustin Diamond has cosumed 3 of his 7 lifes so far. So I decided to revert the article in to its former state.

It seems that there are a lot of hoaxes regarding his life and probably some of them are spread by himself.

I think it is best to update the article only if citation to a trusted news source will be provided.


The page is protected right now with the death rumor up there, somebody should probably change that Profonikz 23:59, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Today, I tracked down a bit about his death hoaxes and posted one that gives some explanation about what was done and how. It was a good faith paragraph and I hope everyone agrees that it can stay and perhaps even quell some of the nonsense about any future demises of His Screechness. For the record, I am of the opinion that Diamond himself may be behind some of this, and I would like to see a stop placed to this behavior. If Wikipedia can assist in that, then I'm even more in favor of it. In the meantime, I think the subsection is a fairly reliable statement regarding just one of these sudden visits by the grim reaper.Sipfan 20:57, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Added by user: Gisvlasta. Totaly agree with the HOAX section in article. Nice job.

[edit] Comments about Kimberly Locke and other Celebrity Fit Club

why no mention of all these shananigans at the Celebrity Fit Club - he stated about "making a mold of his monster and using it on Kimberly Locke" He's also been very vocal about eating junk food and not caring, making no one else on the Celebrity Fit Club wanting to have him on their team. He's made it a very hostile environment there and has even tried to make sexual advances against the host of the show. I'm sure it's all being done for attention, but I feel this must be added.

[edit] Irrelevant comments removed

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trezjr 23:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] deletions

Who do CLW and DragonflySixtyseven think they are? They've editted the hell out of this article! Idiots like them ruin this site for everyone else! How can one learn the true Dustin Diamond story if this article is completely chopped up???? 05:05, 29 September 2005 Kurt Steinberg

What's with the editing of the documentaion of the DustinDiamond.com harassment of Dustin Diamond? It's obviously very apparent that these things have happened.

Zion Lutheran isn't a high school, but rather a k-8. I don't have data on when Dustin Diamond attended, but I know he did. Corrected the link and created a stub for Zion Lutheran School, Anaheim California. - Lampiasis 23:20, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Stop the deletion!

I'M SORRY, BUT DID THE DISCUSSION BELOW JUST REFER TO HOMOSEXUALITY AS 'DEGENERATE ELEMENTS OF OUR SOCIETY,' AND THEN COMPARE GAY PEOPLE TO 'PEDOPHILES'? I AGREE THAT ANY UNRELATED OR UNSUBSTANTIATED INFORMATION ABOUT DIAMOND SHOULD BE DELETED, BUT YOU PEOPLE NEED TO BE AWARE THAT YOUR PREJUDICES AND/OR IGNORANCE ABOUT SEXUAL ORIENTATION SHOULD NOT GUIDE YOUR DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE IN AN ARTICLE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.172.104 (talk) 18:50, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Why are they deleting everything? We're trying to add commentary on a admittedly small and depraved, but nonetheless valid, Internet subculture. What's wrong with that?

I think it's very hypocritical that this entry is being targeted like this, yet other similar subcultures are left unmolested.

  • People are deleting stuff because this page is supposed to be about an American actor, not some element of a so-called subculture. As such, entries concerning some degenerate elements of our society have no value, encyclopedic or otherwise, what so ever to said end. I am certain there are plenty of homosexual and/or homoerotic (et. al.) sites on the web whereby you can get your degenerate fix to your hearts desire. As for this site, or rather this article in particular, there is no place for it.--Jbs173 07:15, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


I agree that most of what has been deleted shouldn't have been. The information on his character and his filmogrophy for example. Even if you disagree about the inclusion of information regarding the homosexual and.or homoerotic websites on Wikipedia, the aforementioned information should still be within the article. Zooba 16:04, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

I say if you want to include all pseudo-related information concerning Dustin Diamond you should create a seperate article to deal with it. As far as I'm concerned, this article is to be biographical information about Dustin, his life, and his career. That's what a reasonable person would expect to find anyway. Using the aforementioned (by some of the people above) ideology, every fringe element pertaining to every article on Wikipedia should be included. Good luck in getting that done. Furthermore, I bet I could Google George W. Bush and find men who want to have sex with him (and probably his dog also), claims that he is either the spawn of Satan or a Martian (or both), etc. Should that be included in the Wikipedia article on him also? Good luck in getting that included, because I guarantee you never would (the editors of that article would stop you before you even began). Using Google, and the Internet as a whole, as a justification and/or validation to include fringe elements in an article is quite weak. Heck references to virtually everything (both real and imagined/exagerated/made up) can be found by "Googling" something. Additionally, fringe homo-erotic elements of a pedophilic nature certainly have no place in an "encyclopedic" article about a person who had no connection to the aforementioned elements. To include every sick person or persons' ideas in every article on Wikipedia is ludicrous at best. What place does such a trivial thing such as the name of an alleged drink at some alleged gay bar have in the article??? How could anyone begin to verify such trivial information??? Bottom line, no matter how much you hate to hear it, one cannot include all fringe and trivial elements in every article. In closing, I leave you with this question. Would you want your kid(s) to be looking for information on the cast of Saved By The Bell and/or Dustin Diamond and come across such garbage that has no conceiveable place in such an article (at least not to reasonable person)? Finally, as I mentioned before, if you want to include the "controversy" and "homo-erotic/pedophilic" elements, by all means write an article the deals with those elements specifically, so people who are into that stuff can find it if they want to (which is hardly unreasonable) . Just keep it out of this article so that people who simply want to know about Dustin Diamond are not forced to be subjected to it.

  • I think that the above comment is a pretty honest and neutral+decent response. However, I would argue that there is a difference between Dustin Diamond and George W Bush in that DD is a cult figure with a substantialy large amount of 'perverted' discussion, relative to other internet sites about his career etc. I would therefore say that there should probably be a *brief* mentioning of the subculture but kept to a minimum. Further, there should not be hyperlinks to said sites, on the premise that interested readers would surely be able to find material on the internet via a website

Furthermore, Dustin Diamond's issues with the dustindiamond.com site and it's offshoots has developed into a very serious legal issue (which he lost), with major ramifications concerning name ownership and parody on the internet. Essentially, Diamond lost the case where he essentially attempted to take over said website bearing his name and likeness, which had become very little more than an endless string of homosexual innuendos about his character. This is a major legal precedent and factor in Diamond's life and public image, and should most definitely be included in this entry. Furthermore, the issues with Salty the Pocketknife and the dustindiamond.com contributors, as well as the later hacking of the band's website, which essentially led to the closing of said website, is certainly a viable facet of Diamond's musical career. In addition, the suing of Diamond and band for allegedly failing to fulfill contractual obligations and acting like overblown rock stars ought to be pointed out as well... not to mention that, by all accounts, the band no longer exists. In addition, as referenced by screechsucks.com, Diamond's stand-up comedy routine seems to be universally reviled by his peers. It seems as though there exists two very distinct factions that have come into conflict as to the content of this article. There are those who seem inclined to completely sanitize it and make it "kid friendly", and thus to utterly ignore the many valid controversies that have emerged following Diamond's descent into washed up child star cliche. Of course, there are the contributors who are doing nothing more than making Diamond into some form of gay icon. I'm certain that there were links within this entry to real articles chronicling Diamond's court loss to Max Goldberg, the owner of dustindiamond.com, and possibly another article concerning Salty the Pocketknife being sued by its label. I wonder who removed these references from this entry, hmm? The point is, however, that inbetween these two groups lies very distinct, very verifiable facts concerning the life of Dustin Diamond that are neither squeaky clean nor completely degenerate. All of you would be well served to remember this before pushing your own distinct agendas.

[edit] Noncompliant tag

I ran across this article while on BLP Patrol, and slapped the noncompliant tag on it. This is a bio about a living person, and it cites no sources at all. WP:BLP requires that particularly any negative information MUST be solidly sourced by reliable sources that meet WP:RS, or it must be removed from both the article and the talk page. I'm tempted to tag this talk page too. Crockspot 23:47, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Citations

Any item(s) tagged as in need of a citation in this article will require immediate attention, usually within 7 days, to supply the source documentation, as required by policy, or that/those item(s) will be removed until such time.

trezjr 20:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Porn-ipedia?

I gotta say; a lot of the details given on this page are not really standard Wikipedia fair. Alternative text could be as follows.

On November 13, 2006, Dustin Diamond's sex tape, "Screeched" (aka Saved by the Smell), was released by Red Light District. It features a bride-to-be, her bridesmaid, and Diamond all engaging in various sexual acts, including a "Dirty Sanchez" [1].
According to Diamond, the sex tape got out because he and some buddies have a “monthly gathering” wherein they exchange such tapes which earn points based on “what [we’re] able to accomplish” on the tapes. “We do it almost like poker. [The tape] could have been left out in anybody’s home, machine, computer. The people that are involved in this group [of friends who exchange tapes] are all ‘profile people.’” Diamond doesn’t believe any of those people leaked the tape, but it may have been the significant other of one of his friends [2].
There is speculation that the sex tape is, in fact, staged; Dustin is decidedly absent in most of the scenes, taking on the role of cameraman and narrator instead of participant, and Dustin's face is never shown during any of the sex-scenes. Furthermore, Diamond remains conspicuously clothed during most of the movie.
On BBC Three (UK Tv Station) Diamond was listed in their Top 100 Annoying People List of 2006 in which they allege the sex tape is nothing more than a staged event which was created to boost his flagging career and to make money. In addition, Diamond made certain claims about his physical body in a recent Howard Stern interview, which are exaggerrated.

(uh... the reason why I came to this page; somebody just had me watch this video with them, and I couldn't help but think it's staged. I mean, how often do people have sex without taking off their pants or shirt? ... okay; shirt once, but she was nervous and I didn't want to scare her... anyway this seems really phony.)(Unless Dustin has a phobia of being nude, in which case he really shouldn't want to make a pornographic film.) JimmmyThePiep 11:29, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

watch it again. do you think it's possible for Dustin to have kept the camera so perfectly steady, and focused on its target, if he had been the one engaging in the act?
I feel the sex tape is staged, and I believe there are some articles on the net confirming that it wasn't Diamond engaging in the acts. What a ridiculous way of trying to regain fame...

[edit] Protection

I semi-protected this article as a flood of editors decended up this page to add uncited rumors of Diamond's death. Contact me to have this lifted. To any admin: feel free to reverse this if/when necessary. — Scientizzle 00:04, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Citation Tags

I tagged the porn tape and death hoax sections with citation tags. The section on the porn tape contains an assertion of what "critics" have said about the matter, but is not backed up by a source. There was one source there, but I removed it because it was a dead link. There was also an assertion about the notion of it being a publicity stunt being a "real possibility", which I removed because it was clearly not NPOV. As for the death hoax matter, the only source that supports this story refers to the subject as "Yo Name", with no clear reference to Diamond. If these assertions cannot be sourced, they should be removed. Nightscream 01:21, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dustin Diamond Appreciation Forum

Could you please add this link. http://fmptrollsquad.proboards53.com/index.cgi?board=ddf

[edit] Zoinks?

Dustin "Zoinks" Diamond? there doesn't appear to be anything on this page leading to the word "Zoinks" being a valid nickname. I believe this should be removed Zervas 05:38, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] his nickname

his nickname "zoinks!" came about because his most famous character "screech powers" frequently exclaimed "zoinks!" in almost every episode, therefore he is referred to as 'dustin "zoinks!" diamond'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.152.39.117 (talk) 11:25, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I remember hearing his character repeatedly say "zoinks," however, I don't think he was ever dubbed that nickname. The only nickname Dustin Diamond was ever referred to was his most famous character, "Screech." --DavidD4scnrt (talk) 04:58, 31 March 2008 (UTC)