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[edit] Article Licensing

Hi, I've started the Free the Rambot Articles Project which has the goals of getting users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to...

  1. ...all U.S. state, county, and city articles...
  2. ...all articles...

using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) version 1.0 and 2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to the GFDL (which every contribution made to Wikipedia is licensed under), but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles (See the Multi-licensing Guide for more information). Since you are among the top 1000 most active Wikipedians, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles.

Nutshell: Wikipedia articles can be shared with any other GFDL project but open/free projects using the incompatible Creative Commons Licenses (e.g. WikiTravel) can't use our stuff and we can't use theirs. It is important to us that other free projects can use our stuff. So we use their licenses too.

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} template (or {{MultiLicensePD}} for public domain) into their user page, but there are other templates for other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}} with {{MultiLicensePD}}. If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know at my talk page what you think. -- Ram-Man 17:57, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Why?

Why do I get compared to the likes of CheeseDreams? [[User:Sam Spade|Sam Spade Arb Com election]] 14:56, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Jimmyrant

FRUAD BY NGUYENHUE aka JOSEPH CRISP STOLEN MATERIAL FROM NGUYEN DYNASTY OF VIETNAM----------------------------------------

[edit] EVIDENCE BELOW

1. NguyenHue is a expelled member from the Nguyen Dynasty staff *About the Author Joseph Crisp aka NguyenHue

2. He was told by the Nguyen Dynasty to shut down his website and return all work that belonged to the Nguyen Dynasty.

3. The Copyright holder for the Cuong De biography is the Nguyen Dynasty noted here The Revolutionary Prince Cuong-De

4. This is true because NguyenHue points out above that the biography belongs to his Geocites site The Revolutionary Prince Cuong-De

5. He was instructed by the Nguyen Dynasty to again close his website but simply chose to delete photos of Prince Nguyen Phuc Buu Chanh and all information related to Nguyen Dynasty because he was EXPELLED and kept WITHOUT PERSMISSION all biographies and research that was submitted by Nguyen Dynasty Scholars.

6. As shown here: H.I.H. Prince Nguyen-Phuc Buu Chanh and Nguyen Dynasty delegation with British government officials and princes of the royal houses of Laos and Burma at a meeting of the British Committee for Free Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Burma in Westminster Palace, London

7. HIH Prince Buu Chanh giving a speech before assembled guests and dignitaries after solemn ceremonies in honor of the national hero and saint, Fleet Admiral-Marshal Tran Hung Dao

8. Nguyen Thi Linh (my own 'Momma Linh') sit back and watch the chaos of present opening unfold NOTE: Joseph Crisp sitting next to Nguyen Thi Linh she is also listed as a supporter on his other website that is a TEXAS based website where Joseph Crisp goes to university and lives. *About the Author Joseph Crisp

9. NGUYEN THI LINH from Texas listed as a supporter for the expelled group from the Nguyen Dynasty that is based in TEXAS with please note the bottom of the website that shows support also again NGUYEN TRUNG DE as a supporter.

10. Contributors and Supporters of this Website: Kong Jing Xue, Nguyen Trung De, Nguyen Van Tuan, Kong Zhishu, Nguyen Thi Linh

11. ALSO NOTE that his own family business is a supporter Crisp Conservation Service of their expelled group

I hope this sheds light on this indiviual NGUYENHUE that is an expelled member of the Nguyen Dynasty I have found this out doing a little research on the issue over the internet of NGUYENHUE JOSEPH CRISP as his other workers NGUYEN THI LINH & NGUYEN TRUNG DE and the rest supporters in Texas that have committed FRUAD against the NGUYEN DYNASTY.--Jimmyvanthach 15:25, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Yes Jimmy, I see you've posted unsubstantiated personal attacks in a few places. Just for the record, Mr Crisp and User:Nguyen Hue seem to be different persons. User:Jimmyvanthach, User:Tran van Ba, User:Celindgren, User:Saigon76something or other all seem to be one person. Dunc|☺ 15:34, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Jimmy

Oh boy. At least now he's doing it in "public" so other people are seeing it. -- Cyrius|✎ 19:42, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Abuse of adminship

Would you care to take a look at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/John Kenney ? CheeseDreams 02:19, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Atheism

[edit] Subud

Pursuant to our discussion about Subud and atheism/agnosticism (see [1]), the Humanist Manifesto II, in part, says that:

--Authoritarian religion does a disservice to humanity; --There isn't enough evidence for the supernatural; --Nature is primary rather than God; --God won't save us, we must save ourselves; and, --Fear of Hell is harmful because it takes the focus away from life here and now.

Many folks in Subud would agree with this. My particular viewpoint goes along the lines of Process theology, which is directly in line with these statements and other statements like them. The problem with your point of view above is that you are arguing against an outdated version of theism (from as far back as the Middle ages). Some of these outdated ideas are that God is omnipotent and thus controls everything, that human beings have little or no power and God determines human destiny, that God is a personal entity and is supernatural, that classical or authoritarian religion is acceptable, that theism cannot solve the problem of evil, etc. None of these ideas (and a host of others, see, e.g., "Ominpotence and Other Theological Mistakes" by Charles Hartshorne) make much sense to a process theist, or to those (some of which are in Subud) who are open-minded theists.

Also, I'm not sure what you're saying about Subud being "obscure." Could you clarify this? Aliman 09:59, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] re: User:Jimmyvanthach

Good afternoon, Duncharris. I noticed your VfD nomination on Royal Lao Government in Exile. In it, you mentioned the Arbitration Committee's decision on User:Jimmyvanthach. I was not aware they'd made a decision. We have had an old VfD discussion thread that has been waiting for a long time for that decision. Would you be familiar enough with the case to go to Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Phan Lien and close out the discussion? It is currently listed at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Old#Ongoing discussions. Thanks. Rossami (talk) 17:44, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Boxing Day

I changed the Boxing Day article, because it seems we're no longer calling the 26th Christmas Sunday and the 27th Boxing Day when Christmas Day is a Saturday. The last time it happened, in 1999, the Radio and TV Times, and indeed everyone I know, called the 26th Boxing Day, and the same is happening again this year. I've left the article as you put it back to for now, but the people on the Boxing Day discussion page seem to be of a similar view. Perhaps refer this for arbitration? Best wishes, Jess Cully (talk) 9 Dec 2004, 20:20 UCT

[edit] RFC pages on VfD

Should RFC pages be placed on VfD to be deleted? I'm considering removing Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Slrubenstein, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Jwrosenzweig and Wikipedia:Requests for comment/John Kenney from WP:VFD. Each of them was listed by CheeseDreams. Your comments on whether I should do this would be appreciated. - Ta bu shi da yu 03:37, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Boxing Day

Ah, User:Jess Cully had it right. Boxing Day itself is always on the 26th - the day off work associated with it may move (just as if November 11th - or any other holiday on a fixed calendar day - is on a Sunday, people get the following Monday off) to the day following, but Boxing Day stays on the day after Christmas. You should revert your reversion... Noel (talk) 11:56, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Image:46202 Princess Anne after crash.jpg

Hi. Can you supply copyright info on this image. Thanks. -- Chris j wood 23:53, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Boxing Day

Thanks for the support, Noel. I've done the rv.

No offence meant, Dunc - I actually liked the custom of calling the 26th Christmas Sunday and the 27th Boxing Day when Christmas Day was a Saturday. Alas, the custom has fallen out of use. Everyone I've spoken to about their plans for Christmas this year calls the 26th Boxing Day; all the 'Christmas Opening Hours' signs at my local shops do likewise; as do the Radio and TV Times (who themselves started the 26th CS/27th BD practice back in 1954). In the face of such an overwhelming tide, it is futile for we purists to kick against the pricks. We have to bow to general usage. Sorry.Jess Cully 16:51, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] ukrailways.wikicities.com

I've started a new wiki at wikicities to concentrate on the history of railways in the UK. This will in time, hopefully, provide a space to greatly expand on what is available on wikipedia. For example, individual pages for locomotives, signal boxes and the like. I've picked on you as a likely contributor from looking at the edit history for the LMS and then at your personal edit history.

At the moment I am busy seeding the wiki with pages from wikipedia, with a few minor edits, before annoucing its existance to the wider railway world. I'm contacting a few people who seen to edit railway articles on wikipedia at first, as they are already enthusiastic about the wiki system. I would be interested in you views on how I can move it forward and the structure of the wiki. I'll keep an eye on this talk page, my talk page or you could email me at richard_bedwell@hotmail.com

[edit] Lasesr tag

The redirect had already been deleted once, so it's a speedy candidate. --fvw* 18:36, 2004 Dec 14 (UTC)

[edit] Steve Davis (Comedian)

Heya, could you restore Steve Davis (Comedian) please? It was on VfD and in no way a CSD. --fvw* 23:51, 2004 Dec 14 (UTC)

Okay, restored. The author blanked it though, which is grounds for a speedy delete, I think. Dunc|☺ 23:53, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Nope, afraid not. See WP:CSD. --fvw* 23:54, 2004 Dec 14 (UTC)

[edit] Kents Hill School

Hi Duncharris: The article on Kents Hill School has been refactored and expanded, with additional work underway. I think that the fact it is one of the oldest co-ed schools in the nation sets a good case for notability. In any case, I was hoping you would revisit the issue and reconsider your vote. Thank you -- [[User:GRider|GRider\talk]] 20:00, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Charles Darwin

I have always followed the three revert/24 hour rule, and a little light sarcasm aside, I have remained civil. A 24 hour ban would be uncalled for, and I think an instance of admin abuse. Cheers, Vincent 12:16, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Yes, three times in 24 hours. That's three.My understanding is that a fourth reversion would have broken the rule. Am I wrong? More on the Darwin Talk page. Vincent 09:43, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Mgm|(talk), the mediator, has unblocked me. You abused your admin privileges yesterday, but I'll forgive you that, in the interest of harmony. I don't think the issue has reached arbitration, but I am preparing for that just in case you cut off my access again. I am keeping to three reverts a day. (Remember of course that my day starts at GMT+9.) I am keeping mostly civil. I am sorry for implying you and the others were among the "ignoramuses" of the world. Vincent 08:07, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for pointing out that Paul Bouche was a Vanity. I must have missed the first VfD.

[edit] EMD E2

Eleven minutes after I created EMD E2, Hoary voted to delete it as non-notable. With his comment about "a ginormous set of such articles", he might be gunning for the whole project. Please vote as you see fit. Rmeier 07:58, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)


[edit] funny things going on with uploads

I am experiencing the same problem as you -- I've even tried re-uploading files to no avail. If you discover a solution please let me know. [[User:GRider|GRider\talk]] 18:14, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Honest signalling

I think you missed a bit out, before the word "should". Kappa 21:29, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] User:MarkSweep/thumb

Could you please undelete it? You're the third person to delete this page – because of the frequent misunderstandings I've replaced it by Template:isd, but for now User:MarkSweep/thumb still has incoming links, which will disappear once someone clears out all the images listed on CAT:CSD. Further details regarding previous deletions and undeletions can be found on my talk page and on CAT:CSD (see notes on top of page). Thanks, --MarkSweep 03:23, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Unverified images

Hi. You uploaded Image:Cyril Clarke.jpg but did not list any source and/or copyright information on the image description page. Please mark it either as GFDL or public domain. See Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags for more info. Please note that images without copyright information may be deleted in the future. Thanks. RedWolf 18:21, Dec 25, 2004 (UTC)

Please do the same for the Richard Roberts image. Image: Richard Roberts. jpgThanks :) Apwoolrich 22:39, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Raftornadof3b.jpg

Hello. Image:Raftornadof3b.jpg has been on WP:CP since you listed it on 18 October. I was wondering if you could add any feedback that might help in resolving the status of this one. Thanks, -- Infrogmation 19:13, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Queen's Christmas Message

You voted for Queen's Christmas Message, this week's UK Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 04:01, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Christmas Broadcasts

Your changes to the Christmas Broadcast article were marked as a minor edit, but they were definitely not: in fact you made it read as if George V were still alive in 1939! rossb 18:22, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Nomination for adminship

Do you want me to nominate you for adminship? Dunc|☺ 23:34, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Oooh, this is flattering, you're the second person in the past month to offer to do so. I have however already been noninated for adminship (and failed to achieve consensus) already at the beginning of this month; Waiting at least a month between nominations appears to be common practice. I'd greatly appreciate your support next month though. Thanks again for the vote of confidence! --fvw* 23:39, 2004 Dec 27 (UTC)
Say, is this offer still good? --fvw* 16:39, 2005 Jan 3 (UTC)

[edit] Glorious First of June

When you move a page, you need to fix the double redirects (see Special:Whatlinkshere/Glorious First of June). Gdr 19:15, 2004 Dec 28 (UTC)

[edit] Macedonian Slavs

I've protected Macedonian Slavs, now what's the problem? Dunc|☺ 15:15, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure, I suspect it's just POV pushing. I'm not really involved, I just happened to seem some major 3RR violation going on in RecentChanges and warned both editors involved. Protection probably isn't a bad idea though, they do both seem to be willing to discuss the matter, so with any luck this will all be solved in a little while. --fvw* 15:18, 2004 Dec 31 (UTC)

[edit] Arbitration Committee case opening

You have been named as a disputant in the recently opened Charles Darwin/Lincoln dispute case brought before the Arbitration Committee. You may wish to add evidence to Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Charles Darwin/Lincoln dispute/Evidence to support your case. -- Grunt   ҈  03:32, 2005 Jan 25 (UTC)

[edit] Average rule

I'm thinking of nominating Average rule for deletion on the grounds that it is a neologism and original research. This article has existed since August 2004 without anyone questioning it or proposing it for deletion. Do you think it's legitimate? Do you know of any reasons I shouldn't nominate it for deletion? Dpbsmith (talk) 15:33, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] HMS Beagle

Hi, I undid your move of HMS Beagle for reasons that were explained at Talk:HMS Beagle - since you didn't add any countercomment before doing the move, I assume you didn't notice the note. Stan 18:41, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Evolution edits

I noticed you removed a reference inserted by an anon. I was just curious about that - whether there was some problem with the ref itself, or whether it was just superfluous. Guettarda 14:03, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Guettarda 14:27, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Unnecessary bot request

Your link can be automatically linked using the variables built in to MediaWiki. As can be seen from meta:Help:Variable. Your request would be: (in no wiki format) http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}}/{{CURRENTDAY}}/.

I think that solves your problem. I hope. -- AllyUnion (talk) 11:12, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Er... the only problem is that {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} would capitalize the month... and apparently the link is case sensitive... I wonder if there is a lower case function. Maybe ask User:Jamesday if he could make a variable for you... or you could modify it monthly... hmm... -- AllyUnion (talk) 11:15, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I'll write your one time use bot when I have time. Maybe this weekend. -- AllyUnion (talk) 03:52, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Also, could you tell me where the link should go? -- AllyUnion (talk) 03:53, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I am going to presume that all days have a holiday and observances section, making the total number of sections to be at least four. -- AllyUnion (talk) 12:39, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sup

I emailed as per your request, did you not receive?--Deglr6328 01:57, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] On This Day...

... a bot that I have created is completing/has completed your request. See Kakashi Bot (talk · contribs) for more information. -- AllyUnion (talk) 17:24, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Could you be so kind as to check this list over? Thanks. -- AllyUnion (talk) 17:35, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC) Dates with Problems:

+ Anything beyond the February 1 article in Kakashi Bot's contributions. -- AllyUnion (talk) 17:43, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] NPOV

Now there's a first - NPOVing something I wrote to make it less anti-evolution :) I suppose I erred on the side of caution - the initial article was garbage that probably could have made it through VfD, but I thought it better not to attract that level of attention to it. Guettarda 21:14, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] effective population size

Looks great Duncan, correct as far as I can remember the formulas without cracking a book. Need to read over it more carefully though. Only one thing, I would reorganize the sections so that the mathematics sections are confined to those sections specifically. i.e. you can talk about the concepts of Variations in population size non-mathematically (then mathematically define them later), ditto Hardy-Weinberg principle. Also, no need to preference everything with "In <discipline-name> foo is..." because the category system effectively does that for us, and in the case of Ne and HWP, it doesn't need to function as a disambiguation because HWP doesn't exist in any other discipline... ;-) Lexor|Talk 14:30, Feb 26, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] On this day...

Hey... I'd appreciate it if you let me know if you looked over the bot's work or what. -- AllyUnion (talk) 04:19, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] talk remove from fr.wikipedia.org

[edit] email pour demander un image?

Template:DuBistro

Est ce que vous avez un email/lettre pour demander d'un autre person des images ou des texte comme en:wikipedia:boilerplate request for permission? Je voudrais un image pour Gustave Malécot. Merçi, Dunc_Harris|☺ 26 fev 2005 à 20:35 (CET)

[edit] DYK

Did you know has been updated
and a fact from the article Reginald Punnett, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you have another interesting fact to submit, then please suggest it at the section's talk page.

Warofdreams 11:22, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Can you do me a favour please? I keep getting blocked by G-Man because I share an IP address with some vandals (195.93.21.67). This has happened six times, three times in the last three days and I to the least annoyed about it. Could you please unblock me? Is there anything I can do about this? Thanks GordyB 12:03, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Royal Society PDFs...

The problem is that trying to parse a PDF is nearly impossible. If you can email or link me to a text file version, I'd be happy to help. -- AllyUnion (talk) 19:29, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

HTML will do. You can leave it in raw HTML and Python's modules can easily parse that data.

[edit] RfCs ...

Hey friend. Schroeder's had me up on RfC for over a week now, didn't bother to sign it until today, and the only other person to sign it is his advocate (who is obviously not a participant in the "dispute" and therefore doesn't count to make the two. I haven't edited a creationism page in 2 weeks. He posted that rfc 4 days after my last edit, without any articulated goals, or any evidence of "trying and failing to resolve the conflict" (obviously, since the "conflict" was resolved 4 days before he posted it). I wonder if, when you have a moment, you might be willing to use your admin privileges to delete both his RfC and mine from the list due to their both being stale without being signed by two participants in the dispute? Ungtss 16:13, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

On that subject, is there any reason not to unprotect Origin of life and RNA world hypothesis? Gazpacho 09:08, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Casque & Gauntlet Society

Would you consider rewording your nomination? See my soapbox comments in the discussion. By all means say it's a piece of non-notable student cruft, vanity, etc. but let's not perpetuate the "oh-no-it's-from-Dartmouth" stuff... Dpbsmith (talk) 02:42, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Dunc -- Thanks for your welcome, comments, and criticisms. And no, I'm not a sock puppet (but I play one on tv). Fisher 04:22, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Heligoland Bight

Hi! As part of the Wiki Syntax cleanup effort, I came across a broken redirect from German Bight to Heligoland Bight, which you put up a few months ago. Such redirects are usually meant to be deleted, but there are two pages linking to it, and the redirect does seem to make sense (from what I gather from these articles). Could you possibly be persuaded to write a stub for Heligoland Bight? Thanks! --Fbriere 21:05, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Not to sound picky (though I probably will anyway), but are you sure this redirect is appropriate? From what I glanced from the article, Heligoland and Heligoland Bight are not the same thing, are they? The reason I'm asking is that we now end up with German Bight being a double redirect, which is a Bad Thing™. Sure, you could change its target, but that's going to mess things up if a real Heligoland Bight article were to be written.
Of course, it's possible the two terms are the same, in which case you're welcome to adjust the redirect, call me an idiot, and get a free pizza for your trouble. :)
--Fbriere 05:54, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Never mind; after a bit of googling, I managed to come up with a stub to replace the redirect. --Fbriere 18:19, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Invisible Pink Unicorn

The IPU idea addresses an outdated notion of deity. Attributes such as "supernatural," "outside human perception," "great spiritual power" (these phrases were taken from the Wikipedia article on the IPU)and even "omnipotence" don't necessarily apply to deity or God. To claim that they do is a textbook example of the Straw Person fallacy (in fact, I use that example in class to demonstrate to my students an example of the SP fallacy).

Aloha, Aliman.

[edit] White City

While a agree that it was an excellent move to copy information from White City to White City, London and turn the original page into a disambiguation page, I wish you had done this just a little more carefully. Two meanings of White City were lost in your transfer process, I've just reconstructed them. I had been using White City as a quick link to World Columbian Exposition, and it took a bit of sluethwork to figure out why this wasn't working anymore. In future, please take care to preserve disambiguation information that has already accumulated, when making this kind of change. --Woggly 11:29, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] History of ecology

Curious about your rationale for the move. Also, given that rationale, do you think Ecology (disciplines) should be moved as well? Guettarda 16:51, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: books

OK, sorry. Didn't know. Jkam

[edit] issues over school articles

In November 2003, there was a VfD debate over Sunset High School (Portland). The debate was archived under Talk:Sunset High School (Portland). What to do with the article is still being contested and has been recently re-nominated for VfD at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Sunset High School (Portland).

I am writing to you because you have participated in such debates before. There still does not exist a wikipedia policy (as far as i can tell) over what to do in regards to articles about specific U.S. public school. My hope is that a real consensus can come out of the debate, and a real policy can take shape. Take part if you are so willing. Kingturtle 02:18, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 :) Oleg Alexandrov 19:33, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Moving Darwin, Northern Territory

Hi, Duncharris. I was a little bit surprised to see the changes at Darwin you made a few days ago; I was wondering what your reasons for deleting the Darwin redirect to Charles Darwin and then moving Darwin, Northern Territory to Darwin. I recognize that Darwin, Northern Territory is a territory capital and is quite important; however, I believe that an unqualified "Darwin", to most people, would refer to the naturalist and that Darwin should therefore redirect to Charles Darwin. Or if not that, then the disambiguation page should be there, in my opinion. What do you think? (And please let me know if this was discussed somewhere that I overlooked). Thanks! — Knowledge Seeker দ 07:03, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Articles should refer to a person's full name, always Charles Darwin not just Darwin. The capital of an Australian territory is quite important. Dunc|☺ 09:17, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I agree, and I fully support leaving Charles Darwin at its current title. However, in my opinion, an unqualified "Darwin" usually refers to Darwin the scientist, not Darwin the city. I am not trying to belittle the capital's importance but I feel that the scientist is a far more common meaning for the name "Darwin" and so Darwin should redirect to Charles Darwin. I realize there is room for disagreement, although it might have been nice to bring this up on the talk page or WP:RM, since it is not an obvious change; especially since it was a complex revert and you had to delete the original Darwin page. I also would have left a note on the talk page explaining what you did so that others, especially nonadministrators who can't see the deletion history, would understand what happened. — Knowledge Seeker দ 04:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Came to bug you

I do this when I have bad mood in the morning. Thank you for your contribution to trend. And one request. Would you mind putting an edit summary? Something like "add link to bio journal" or even pasting the whole thing "Trends are a series of scientific journals of biology." could be quite helpful for other editors watching those pages. Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov 17:27, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I guess I was really in a bad mood. Edit summaries are indeed important, my request was kind of terse though. Just hope I did not make too mad. Oleg Alexandrov 22:42, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
no, I just ignored you. Dunc|☺ 16:29, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 :) Oleg Alexandrov 19:34, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] On formatting images

What is wrong with this illustration in this position? See note.
What is wrong with this illustration in this position? See note.

Hello. You're mistaken about placing images on the page. The following tips from my Userpage will help you, I hope, while you might keep in mind Thoreau's remark, A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. Consistency is important within pages and among closely connected pages, but its only purpose is to serve the reader.

Not all Wikipedia pages need have identical formats, with the first illustration squared top right, though more than one Mediator is convinced this is a requirement. Some images are neutral in their format possibilities, others not:

  • 1. Images need to face into the page.
  • 2. Vanishing points need to lie on the page.
  • 3. Sources of light in an image need to come from the center of the page.

Even if you have never thought about page layout, a moment's reflection will demonstrate the reasonableness of these three axioms, practiced by all professionals. --Wetman 04:49, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reason I moved Lancaster, England back.

Dear Friend, Lancaster is a popular name of many places in the world. Lancaster, England is one of the most popular references to the name, however it is not the most popular. That title actually goes to the city in Pennsylvania, although, Lancaster, England is the original. Not to mention, that neither the English, or the Pennsylvania city is the largest of the Lancaster family. That title goes to the California city. So, Lancaster, England does not carry the same weight of a single title city such as London or Los Angeles. So, I reverted it back to the Lancaster, England page where it should be. I also placed boldened type to the 3 primary Lancasters to separate them from the others so that they would be more easily identifyable. Thank you for your understanding in this matter. --Anon 07:09, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)


And you seem biased to your own Lancaster. The point is, there are 3 cities worthy of the title. If neither San Jose can have it... neither can a particular Lancaster. Leave it the way it is or I will appeal to the administrators to have it protected. --Anon 00:11, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)

Note that Winchester is also liable to being moved back, as this has been discussed twice before on the talk page concluding that the main page should be the dab. Joe D (t) 13:08, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Yes, sorry about that.

That wasn't intentional, just got lost in the copyedit.

Ben@liddicott.com 10:11, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Research project on wiki contributors

Hello-

I am aware that this is not the typical message usually posted, so I would like to apologize and ask for your kind understanding. I am a PhD student at Syracuse University School of Information Studies. My advisor and I are working on a research project on contributors to Wikis. This project received Institutional Review Board Approval number 05048. I would like to have a brief email dialog with you about your experience as a Wikipedia contributor. Please respond to this posting or send me an email at wikiresearch@hotmail.com, if you would be willing to answer a couple of quick questions. I would like to assure you that your comments will remain confidential.

Best regards, -Isabelle Fagnot

[edit] Why is the article not notable

\Did u see? the links that are enclosed in his article? I am familiar with Paul Bouche. How many of your listings have won an Emmy award? As a matter of fact I was searching for him after Discussion and presentation by him @ Miami International University of Art and Design.

He has been arround for many years and has been an inspiration for many young hispanics as myself. I guess you are not familiar with the field of spanish media. That is ok. But know I also searched The Miami Herald, El Nuevo Herald, La Opinion (Los Angeles Main Hispanic Paper), Even Variety, The Hollywood Reporter and Hispanic Business magazine have featured articles about him. Perhaps you should too. I don't see anyone on the list of comments that strike me as Hispanic or Latino. Ask arround. Even though you probably know no hispanic americans.

Just because you dont know someone doesn't mean they are not relevant for our community 35 million in the US and 400,000,000 arround the world.

[edit] Anthony Flew article

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for stepping in and locking the page overnight. I don't know if this is the correct way to convey my thanks, but I had to thank you. Harvestdancer 18:20, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Feeding trolls

Well, I'm at a loss. How do you get rid of a troll? Starvation? Graft 20:51, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] <<Please feel free to add plot synopsis here.>>

I noticed your speedy of Cleanliness Is Next to Ed in the deletion log and thought it looked a little dubious, so took a look at the main Ed, Edd n Eddy article. Unggrh. Looks like almost all of the episodes' articles are similar placeholders. Could you take a look at them? —Korath (Talk) 11:23, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ed, Edd n Eddy

I have continued my work on these pages since you looked last...

Season 1 episodes have just been completed, and am working on season 2.

A question, tho...

I think that the 'subject' Ed, Edd n Eddy should be the CATEGORY Ed, Edd n Eddy.

The category matches the subject now, but my question is: What tags to I put into the original article to suggest that this be moved, or cross-linked to the category?

Am rather new at this, and would appreciate any suggestions you might be able to make.

BTW: Please look at the format for the sub-articles in the 1st season and tell me if you think it's ok... Have been trying to make all of them look the same, hense the 'blank' templates. As I add the text, the 'blank part goes away.

[edit] Hi there

Please see discussion on Paul Bouche. New information relevant for undeletion has been posted. As well as undeletion requests by two hispanics besides myself (one lives in Tokio)Please post any repply to this on the "undeletion ddiscussion page since I am just a user not a member. Thanks.

Rene Lake

[edit] Comments requested

Our neo-eugenicist friend is making more noise at Talk:Eugenics. I assume he, like all of the other of his sort which periodically show up and demand that the page be about the wonderful and glorious future of human modification (and of course all of that stuff in the past is far distant and was never really eugenics anyway), will eventually realize that there is little space for POV pushing around here, but in the meantime your reasoned thoughts would be appreciated. --Fastfission 16:50, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't know who is worse in the end -- the people who want to give a biased history of eugenics and evolution because they like eugenics, or the people who do it because they hate evolution. It has an odd tugging effect -- one side wants to whitewash the whole thing, the other wants to portray it in as unfavorable a light as possible, while I have to insist against the objections of both of steering the middling and ideologically unsatsifying path of historical truth! As such I get accused of polar opposite POVs no matter what! Ah, I just can't win... --Fastfission 00:32, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Russian Biologists

I'v found list of Russian Biologists in wanted list please check if my suggestions right Best regards

Any_Key

[edit] Kennedy Fried Chicken

...but I don't think it's proper to delete an article that is under discussion in VfD, I don't think Wikipedia articles have "authors," and while I think the requests of article contributors should be given due weight in VfD I don't think articles should be deleted on "author's request." The phenomenon of restaurants with names like "Kennedy Fried Chicken," "Kansas Fried Chicken," "Mississippi Fried Chicken," etc. is amusing enough to be worth a mention in Kentucky Fried Chicken, so what it really boils down to here is whether Kennedy Fried Chicken should be a redirect or simply nonexistent. Dpbsmith (talk) 20:36, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] I don't want to be a jerk about Kennedy Fried Chicken...

...but I don't think it's proper to delete an article that is under discussion in VfD, I don't think Wikipedia articles have "authors," and while I think the requests of article contributors should be given due weight in VfD I don't think articles should be deleted on "author's request." The phenomenon of restaurants with names like "Kennedy Fried Chicken," "Kansas Fried Chicken," "Mississippi Fried Chicken," etc. is amusing enough to be worth a mention in Kentucky Fried Chicken, so what it really boils down to here is whether Kennedy Fried Chicken should be a redirect or simply nonexistent. Dpbsmith (talk) 20:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] TfD nomination of Template:JSTOR

Template:JSTOR has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#JSTOR. Thank you. — Xiong熊talk* 09:58, 2005 May 11 (UTC)

[edit] Obsessive behaviour re: image location top right

I notice your the same guy who vandalized Wetmans personal page back in April over this same issue. I await your response on Talk: JSTOR. Stbalbach 16:12, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling in Template:nonCommercialProvided

I noticed a typo in Template:nonCommercialProvided, but do not have the authority to fix it. "Licenced" should be spelt "licensed", as "licence" is only the noun and not the verb form. Thanks. —Wereon 16:53, May 11, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Template:History

Thank you for your good thoughts. I think there's a misunderstanding. I didn't intend it as a link to the history of a page itself – Wikipedia already provides such a link in the skin. The template is meant to refer to any other page. I use it e.g. on my homepage as some sort of a watchlist (that was, before i found out you can build customized watchlists) and to allow people to check which contributions i made to pages. — Sebastian (talk) 20:05, 2005 May 14 (UTC)

I now reverted your changes since they completely destroyed the function of the template. — Sebastian (talk) 20:13, 2005 May 15 (UTC)


[edit] Alan White

Why have you moved Alan White (drummer) to Alan White (Oasis drummer)? He left the band over a year ago and I doubt he'll go back. Either way, he had a life before Oasis and may well have a career after Oasis. Do me a favour and move is back. Cheers.--Crestville 21:53, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, just noticed there are two. How do you know he is named after the Yes drummer and it's not just a conicidence? I still don't think he should be called "Oasis Drummer".--Crestville 22:12, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
Point taken.--Crestville 13:35, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:46202 Princess Anne.jpg

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Burgundavia (✈ take a flight?) 16:38, May 28, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:46202 Turbomotive left side with smoke deflectors.jpg

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Burgundavia (✈ take a flight?) 16:38, May 28, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:46202 turbomotive right side.jpg

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Burgundavia (✈ take a flight?) 16:38, May 28, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Adminship

Eh, I'm pretty argumentative, get frustrated pretty quickly, and have a hard time being universally cordial to people who I think are malicious cranks (which include a number of regular users). Though I would never go so far as to let any of that bleed into any sorts of administrator abilities, it seems like more hassle than it is worth (I already get the "you are a bully" line because I cite off-line sources to back up my points, lord knows the trouble I would cause if I had any institutional sanction). It would be helpful in fixing up vandalism and so forth but I've been able to do an okay job at that as it is without it, so I think I'll stay a "normal" user and feel free to get irritated towards and be suspicious of people in a way which would feel unbecoming as an administrator. But thank you for the sentiment. --Fastfission 19:27, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Rumer Willis

I see you voted delete on Rumer Willis in VFD. Merging the info as you suggested would require saving the history for the GFDL, so you might want to change it to either a merge and redirect or just a full delete. Mgm|(talk) 10:15, May 30, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thank You Girl

Hi - I've just rewritten this article which you voted delete on at vfd - thought you might like to take another look...? Grutness...wha? 03:12, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hey, about Nicole

If you are into rap music, the girl in question was probably mostly known for the video for Bounce Ya On My Pole (you probably HAD to be in New Orleans to really see it), she did with Ruda about 5 years ago. In it she basically looked like a hooker (in the article I was nice), but she also sang on another track, and I can't remember which, nor can I find the CD. In any event, I was wanted to answer your question

Andrea 198.49.31.230 20:38, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sir Clive

New one on me. Live and learn. GordyB 21:50, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] VfD COOL

Sorry if I seem too forward in telling an admin about procedure, but it's generally considered bad form (as per VfD notice) to redirect an article while it's on VfD - confuses the issue too much. I have reverted to the stub. Just thought I'd let you knopw. Thanks. 18:01, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] School VfDs

Just to let you know, I appreciate your efforts to keep the un-encyclopedic trivia out, even if they're in vain. Jayjg (talk) 21:47, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • However, you may want to consider merging them into lists by state or districts, since that is both faster and more likely to succeed than attempting to get them deleted. Radiant_>|< 10:13, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)
    • Don't let the hordes of keep votes and the frustration of watching more and more substandard articles on substandard topics infiltrating wikipedia stop you from doing what is necessary to improve the project. There may be very few of us with actual standards who patrol VfD regularly, but we are all with you. Indrian 04:24, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] LMS Locos

I notice you keep removing the Template:LMS Locomotives from the bottom of the page articles. Is there any reason for this, as they are useful navigational tools, much like Template:GWR Locomotives, Template:British Rail Locomotives, Template:British Rail DMU, Template:British Rail EMU. Our Phellap 16:48, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] # Wayne Ray from [599] (http://www.library.utoronto.ca/canpoetry/ray/bio.htm).Dunc|&#9786; 09:06, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hi This Bio is not a copyright infringement, both bios are from my CV. I wrote them and they are me !! I still haven't got the html link down properly, should I have made a link to U of T Poets? or my personal webpage. I was trying to make these poetry entries neutral. I am adding Canadian Poets to the Wiki list, that I find significant as well. But not copyiing their Bios, just adding their list of books in print.

WayneRay 02:53, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)WayneRay

[edit] steam train photos

Thanks for the link. I have my own photos of some LMS locos if you want to use them as well. Locos in question: 6233 Dutchess of Sutherland, 5690 Leander, 6201 Princess Elizabeth, 45157 The Glasgow Highlander, 8F 48151, 2MT 46441 all from Crewe Works open day in 2003. Also 2MT 46443 on the Severn Valley. All are high resolution (2048x1536). The photo of 6233 is not so overexposed as the one you added as it wasn't taken into the sun. Our Phellap 21:06, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I will upload them in the next day or so and add the photos to their respective pages. May as well do them all. I've got lots of LNER, GWR and a few SR steam loco pictures if that is of interest for the future?! Our Phellap 21:21, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Yep I have the GCR Class 04 63601 amongst other. There are links to all my photos at User:Our_Phellap/Gallery#Steam_locomotives. Our Phellap 21:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Added some photos. Links below.

I have created red links in the photo description for the class article. For the LNER locomotives there use the Template:LNER Locomotives, for GWR use Template:GWR Locomotives (the Template:SR Locomotives needs completing if you want to try?!!). Will upload more later this evening. Our Phellap 12:33, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Also there is a photo for GWR 6400 Class but no article.

More pictures!! Our Phellap 17:42, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Right, even more pictures Our Phellap 20:55, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)


Final batch for a while. Not going to be around for approx. 2 weeks after tomorrow. Our Phellap 22:49, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I am away for about 2 weeks. Was going to do templates for the GNR, GCR, GER etc. locos if you want to have a go?!! When I get back I'll try and finish off the rest of the BR diesel/electric locos and units. Our Phellap 00:39, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] IDiots

Nice term. Perfect counter to IDEA. Guettarda 15:28, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] User:Jammo

This user has posted four articles on "party poker" with text like "its hot" or "I really like it". I recommend a formal chastisement and possible blocking. Antares33712 15:42, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Self-induced abortion vfd.

Thank you for voting to keep the article on self-induced abortion. I promise to continue working to develop and improve this article. -- BD2412 talk 15:26, 2005 Jun 17 (UTC)

[edit] Nguyen Dynasty POV-pushers strike again

Some time ago I went to great effort to write several biographies of the nguyen kings, that were balanced, showing both good and bad points. I can list the books which supplied the information if anyone would like to check up on it -fact is they were not a very popular dynasty. However, I have noticed that almost all of these have been changed, to very N-NPOV bio summaries giving nothing but a rosy spin on everything these kings did. What is more (shock of shocks) they are direct copies of the summaries on the website here http://www.geocities.com/imperialvietnam/nguyenemperors.html which you will remember Jimmy/Lindgren/TranVanBa were known to copy & paste from (I have noticed the page now has a warning about the Buu Chanh group as a result of this). Because of a lack of promised action in the past, and seeing how systematic this historical revisionism is, I have stopped after changing back one article. Would you care to comment? Can *anything* be done to stop this sort of garbage? It's non-neutral point of view, as well as plagarism, and I remain convinced all part of pushing modern claims to power by the Buu Chanh pretender. -Nguyen Van Tuan

[edit] Copied from your user page

Message from flo98, concerning Nonhuman animals ethics :

I am not censoring you. Your insults were irrelevant. If you you think my article is innacurate (that the facts are "disputed"), feel free to develop it or set Criticisms.

1. My facts are not innacurates as you said

2. This article needs to be developped for sure

Please be constructive and add links to it or new views one the subject, and if something is innacurate, then tell me about it, or simply correct it instead of telling me what to do.

Thank you

[edit] Peer review request for Nonhuman animals ethics

The peer review request you submitted for Nonhuman animals ethics has been archived in accordance with the request removal policy as an inappropriate request. Peer review is a place to seek out creative feedback, and the nature of your request suggests that such feedback is not needed at this time. If this article, or any other you may be working on reaches a point were peer review would be appropriate, please feel free to submit future requests. --Allen3 talk 21:00, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] My RFA

Thank you for supporting my RFA. Guettarda 00:22, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: USATC articles

Nice start on those two. I took a quick run through with a copyedit, fixing red links and bypassing redirects and disambigs as well as a little grammar. I might have some information in my resources that could be added; I'll see what I can find. slambo 20:40, Jun 21, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Comments from A ghost

I saw your edits on Intelligent design. If you want to edit the intro, fine, although if you check the Talk there's good reason why it is the way it stands. But please don't feed the troll.--ghost 20:47, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I disagree because I'd checked his contributions list and found that he'd already exceeded the 3RR rule on 3 seperate articles this afternoon. The editors on those pages refered to his actions as vandalism, and responded accordingly. Although I agree that his has a right to a POV, and to edit in theory, he refuses to respect the community. Therefore, the community has no need to make an exception to it's rules.
BTW, if he'd bothered to read 3 paragraphs into the article, he'd have found the exact criticism he used. It was moved there as part of a larger effort.--ghost 21:05, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Property

Please explain how this article is "notable" w.r.t. Inappropriate Uses of Wikipedia? Ariele 03:12, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Let's go one level higher problems that may require deletion Ariele 13:25, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC).
Reviewing Wikipedia's policy on soapboxes, I've moved my discussion to my talk page but my viewpoint has not changed. The article began as a soapbox and later revised. The new revision has toned the original version down but that doesn't change what happened. You say that you've been polite. And I say, that I've been polite to you as well. I don't troll. If you really want the truth, my encounter with this so called "defense of tradition, family, and property" was not coincidental. These folks came to me, not the other way around. They were doing the trolling, I wasn't. Ariele 14:25, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Spoiler-about

Radiant misunderstood and misstated the template's intended application. I've attempted to clarify this matter on both the templates for deletion page and the spoiler warning page, and I would sincerely appreciate it if you would reassess the template's validity. Thanks for your time! —Lifeisunfair 10:38, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Phone Sex survey

Hello, you left an edit in the phone sex article stating that I'd conducted my survey improperly. Please explain. Thank you.68.56.232.25

[edit] Speedy delete of Maurice Goode,Jr.

I placed Maurice Goode,Jr. for VfD and you speedy deleted it. It was headed for deletion anyways, so I don't care that it was deleted. I'm just curious under what criteria you speedy deleted it? I don't see anything apparent at WP:CSD under which it qualified for speedy. According to WP:DP it qualified as a vanity page. Did you speedy delete it based on Wikipedia:Deletion policy/Reducing VfD load? --Durin 20:52, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cfd:Controversial books

I know you're a pretty busy fellow but if you had the time, I'm worried about people deleting a useful and interesting category because they don't understand what the word "controversial" means. Category:Controversial books. You can plainly see my view of it on the page there, I'd appreciate your input as well, as I think you're a pretty sensible fellow. --Fastfission 04:39, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Family trees

Thanks for the feedback; I've answered on my talk page. Dewet 19:54, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Edip Yuksel

I believe this meets WP:CSD under section 1.1.4. --Xcali 00:27, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] William Sorell

This appears to be a direct copy-and-paste from here. Can you please explain why this material is available for use in Wikipedia? Is it in the public domain, or released under the GFDL? Thanks, Bovlb 03:46, 2005 Jun 24 (UTC)


[edit] Louvre layout

A strip of illustrations down the right hand edge like a pane of postage stamps. This layout needs your unerring and elegant touch. --Wetman 10:08, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

it would be good to open a dialogue concerning the peppered moth article are scientist creationists? clearly many are! it does not help the cause of the evolutionary biologist to make glib statements such as I found on this article portraying a false divide on either camp warm regards tritonal

[edit] Category:UK Wikipedians

Hi, just to let you know that the list of UK participants at the UK notice board was getting rather long, so I have replaced it with the above category which I have added to your user page. -- Francs2000 | Talk 30 June 2005 19:13 (UTC)