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Contents 1 Pictures 2 Industries 3 Places of Interest 4 A5 traffic 5 John Dunstaple/Dunstable 6 Origins of the name

[edit] Pictures

Does anybody have any pictures of Dunstable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.40.131.66 (talk) 17:38, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

I don't have any pictures right now but as I live there I could easily take some if people would like. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.102.219 (talk) 13:44, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

I would love to see some pictures - the "chalk hills" sound amazing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.37.73.162 (talk) 04:20, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Industries

The article previously said: "Latterly, much Dunstable's industry has been light engineering providing vehicle parts for the Vauxhall plant in Luton". This was a narrow view of the town's industrial past. The writer was probably thinking of the Delco factory, but in its heyday even they advertised "Almost every vehicle in Britain is factory-fitted with one or more AC-Delco quality products". And there were also other large factories, so I have changed the article to have a broader summary of the town's twentieth-century industry. JonH 17:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Places of Interest

Doesn't Grove House deserve a page? It has quite a history. I submitted a picture but I don't know a lot of it's past so I haven't written anything. Ashton School should get a mention too. I have a photo of it which I can upload but haven't yet.

--DearCatastropheWaitress 18:17, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Notability is based on the amount of published information, so you would need to find some sources before creating an article just on Grove House. If you have a short paragraph about it, it could be added to the Dunstable page.

There are already articles on Dunstable Grammar School and Ashton (VA) Middle School which would benefit from a photo of the school. JonH 11:09, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A5 traffic

"In recent years the main A5 trunk road which through the centre of the town has seen a vast increase in traffic flow" I think this claim needs a good citation. Also "recent years" is vague. It's been 15 years since I lived in Dunstable and there was plenty of traffic on the A5 then. It does not seem possible there could have been a "vast increase" since then - without more lanes. Thehalfone 13:50, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Infact, looking again, this whole part is

• not in the right place: traffic problems should not be discussed in the Places of Interest section
• unencyclopaedic
• badly written: unresionable
• pov: unresionable
• origional research: Unfortunately every time the M1 has a problem, traffic will come towards Dunstable at a vastly increased rate.

So I shall remove it here. Something about traffic problems is probably in order, but this is a political issue, and has been for years. It need to be done better, with Neutral point of view (NPOV)}}Thehalfone 14:05, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] John Dunstaple/Dunstable

Source states: "Probably from Dunstable, Bedfordshire." I don't believe we can have speculation on Wikipedia... Am I right? Unless a stronger source can be offered it will, most likely, be removed. Scarian^Talk 13:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't see why we need the speculation box, weasel tag, and external link in the Dunstable article. These lists of famous people normally just contain links to other Wikipedia articles, with clues to indicate the type of person. When I tidied up this list, I copied "probably born in the town" from the John Dunstable article to show that there is some doubt. Any discussion about the facts should be carried out at the John Dunstable article. JonH 14:09, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Gah... fine. But the "probably" needs to be removed or edited... or, in fact, his name needs to be removed from the list entirely. I've already gone to his page and stated the troubles there. Scarian^Talk 14:11, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Origins of the name

I have never heard this "my kingdom strengthens" theory. It sounds like original research to me. Thehalfone 08:34, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I visited Dunstable while researching my family tree. This theory seems so simple and direct I was surprised no one had made the connection. Johnssewell 21:18, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I am a newbie and do not know how to write citations. Referring to the Wikipedia definitions of 'dungeon' and 'stable' seems appropriate. Johnssewell 19:31, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi and welcome. The problem is that it is Wikipedia policy not to include any original research or ideas, even if it is the case of just making an obvious connection between two words. The issue is spelt out at Wikipedia:No original research. Thehalfone 09:06, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I see the the discrepancy now. Do I need to contact a major historical society that will countenance my belief of an "obvious connection between two words" and get them to publish it?Johnssewell 05:05, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

The Dunstable town council website (http://www.dunstable.gov.uk/pages/About%20Dunstable.htm) states that:

The name Dunstable, or "Dunstaple" as it was usually written in the past, is derived from two Anglo - Saxon words, "Dun" meaning a hill or down and "Staple" meaning market. So Dunstable is quite literally "The market by the Downs".

--GazMan7 (talk) 17:04, 12 December 2007 (UTC)