Talk:Dundee and Newtyle Railway

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[edit] Image copyright issues

would it be possible to use this [1] photo in the article. I notice that it says copyright university of dundee archive services but the date on the photo states it was taken in 1833 Ydam 18:36, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

That depedends. Where are you and are you worried about uk (probably scotish in this case) courts?Geni 01:49, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

The date the photo was taken is irrelevant. The information you need is 1) the date of death of the photographer; 2) the date the copyright was last renewed (in this case by the University of Dundee). I think it is still under copyright, though it is very plausable that the copyright holder may allow its use. _└ ^VodkaJazz / _talk ^┐ 13:44, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

If it was published in the US before 1923, or anywhere in the world before 1909, then it is PD in the US, and copyright renewals and the death date of the author/photographer don't matter at all. DES ^(talk) 00:45, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

In any case, the archive copyright is almost surely compeletly invalid under US law. Note that if the photo was taken in 1833, it is very likely (virtually certian) that the photographer died sometime before 1913, which would also make this PD under both UK and US law. (I am assuming that the photog was at least 20 when the pictuire was taken, as iit appears to ahve been an officail corporate photo -- at least a corporate source is credited -- and thus the photog is very likely to have been a pro. I further assume that he lived to be no more than 100, again highly likely indeed. The UK now uses Life+70 copyright terms, so as long as the photographer died before 1936, this is PD there, and also in the US). DES ^(talk) 00:55, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I wish it were illegal to falsely claim copyright on PD images. DES ^(talk) 00:55, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Check out the template {{PD-US-1923-abroad}}. It should be applicable as far as I can tell. Royalbroil 01:32, 1 January 2008 (UTC)