Talk:Dukes of Holstein-Gottorp

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[edit] Paul of Russia's giving the lands to Denmark

Might anyone be able to explain why he did this? Was it part of a diplomatic agreement or settlement? --Ashley Rovira 19:24, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

An exchange was made - Holstein-Gottorp went to the King of Denmark, who greatly wanted it, in exchange for the Counties of Oldenburg and Delmenhorst, which were given to Paul, who then granted them to his cousin, the Prince-Bishop of Lübeck (I think). I don't believe that this was actually Paul's own decision - I believe his mother, Catherine the Great, forced him to do this. Presumably, she wanted to court good relations with Denmark. john k 22:12, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup needed June 2007

re:

History of Schleswig-Holstein

and

List of rulers of Schleswig-Holstein

These three need integrated, and the redirect needs to be titled Dukes of with this page becoming the Holstein-Gottorp article. In short, this is confusing as all hell, but the territories held by this branch of the family are distinct enough for deliniation.

  • {clean|date=June 2007|This relationship as a cadet branch and the difference between that and the territories needs careful deliniation. Note the partition of the territory was eventually reversed, then eventually became titular. Much from the history needs cross loaded here.|FrankB 07:51, 20 June 2007 (UTC)}