Talk:Duke of Richmond
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Why are they all called Charles? —Ashley Y 09:27, May 14, 2004 (UTC)
Some noble families tend to reuse traditional family names. In this case, it probably has to do with the first Duke being an illegitimate son of King Charles II. The only Duke of the current line not called Charles (the 9th Duke) was not the eldest son, and so wasn't expected to inherit the title. His elder brother, Charles, died of wounds received in World War I. (There had been another even older son, also Charles, who died as a baby.) Proteus (Talk) 09:35, 14 May 2004 (UTC)
I've moved all the earlier Dukes of the current creation over to just "Duke of Richmond" rather than "Duke of Richmond and Lennox", since they were always known simply as the "Duke of Richmond," rather than as the "Duke of Richmond and Lennox." I hope this is (this time) non-controversial. john k 05:25, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Does anyone know why the Duke of Richmond and Lennox gained the title of the UK Duke in 1876? If I understand correctly, it changed nothing (with respect to the precedence). Mapple 18:39, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- The Dukedom of Gordon became extinct but the lands associated with the title went to his sister who married the 4th Duke of Richmond. Their son was created Duke of Gordon to continue the association with the family and titles.Alci12 13:37, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Black Hair
This might sound somewhat irrelevant, but from whom did the children of the 2nd Duke of Richmond inherit their black hair? The --Anglius 21:10, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] The Dukes and Richmond itself
Have any of the title holders since the raise to duke ever actually had anything to do with Richmond in Yorkshire or Surrey? Does the cutoff for their presence and personal say of what goes on in Richmond begin with the Lancastrians? Is Richmond perpetually held by associates of the Royal Family, legitimate or otherwise? What was Richmond's stance on the Pilgrimage of Grace, or the Northern Rebellion/Rising of the North? Have any of the dukes been Jacobites, as they were Cavaliers? It is said that Cavalier Richmond was taken by the Covenanters, which the inhabitants hated so much they raised a tower commemorating the victory of Cumberland in Richmond. Was the Duke of Richmond Whig in opposition to the Hanoverians, but Tory in respect to their own Stuart relatives? Essentially, what became of Richmond's identity and image since it was no longer a quasi-part of Brittany? Richmond is independent of Brittany, so has it been a mere appanage of Royal dynasties? Is Richmond just a clone of Brittany? These questions attempt to know the politics of both peer and shire. How come Richmond does not have its own armorial bearings in use by a duke? The last that seems associated with Richmond are the ermines of Brittany. Nobody uses the Tudor rose on their arms for Richmond. It is widely stated that Richmond is depreciated in value & importance. Is Richmond of a Mercian, as opposed to Northumbrian heritage? I have seen some say Richmond is Midlands, rather than of a Border culture. That Edwin of Mercia may have been owner of Gilling, does not explain Scottish raiding or reiving activities in Richmond. IP Address 03:03, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
