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Deleting the information about the Earls of Selkirk has left a discontinuity. Mintguy (T) 22:51, 9 May 2004 (UTC)
Oh, I'm sorry...Can you recover it? I think the Earl of Selkirk stuff should mostly be in its own article, regardless. john 23:29, 9 May 2004 (UTC)
Is this the same family that Alexander Hamilton is descended from? Forrest McDonald's 1979 Alexander Hamilton: A Biography mentions that
- "Hamilton's father, James Hamilton, was of noble lineage. He was the fourth son of a Scottish laird, descended from a ducal line, who had married the daughter of an "ancient Baronet," Sir Robert Pollock. Such a bloodline, as Hamilton remarked late in life, gave him "better pretensions than most of those who in this Country plume themselves on Ancestry."
Ron Chernow's 2004 Alexander Hamilton similarly states
- Hamilton's other star-crossed parent, James Hamilton, had also been bedeviled by misfortune in the islands. Born around 1718, he was the fourth of eleven children (nine sons, two daughters) of Alexander Hamilton, the laird of Grange in Stevenston Parish in Ayrshire, Scotland, southwest of Glasgow. In 1711, that Alexander Hamilton, the fourteenth laird in the so-called Cambuskeith line of Hamiltons, married Elizabeth Pollock, the daughter of a baronet. As Alexander must have heard ad nauseam in his boyhood, the Cambuskeith Hamiltons possessed a coat of arms and for centuries had owned a castle near Kilmarnock named the Grange. Indeed, that lineage can be traced back to teh fourteenth century in impeccable genealogical tables, and he boasted in later years that he was the scion of a blue-ribbon Scottish family: "The truth is that, on the question who my parents were, I have better pretensions than most of those who in this country plume themselves on ancestry."
Publius 21:40, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Earl of March
Gentlemen, if the 1st Duke of Hamilton had been created Earl of March instead of Earl of Arran, Lanark, and Cambridge, would he and 2nd Duke of Hamilton have done anything differently during the Civil War (Did the Scottish Earldom of March still have special responsibilities or privileges associated with it at that time?) --Anglius 23:33, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
- Comment on the titles - When the Dukedom of Lauderdale was created, the Duke had as a secondary title that of Marquess of March to demonstrate his descent from the Dunbar Earls of March. When he died those two titles died with him. Comment on the question - I think the old responsibilities for the Scottish Marches were eroded if not defunct by the time of the Civil War. I've never seen mentions of anyone with those responsibilities in the 17th century. I could look it up. Possibly Dawson mentions it. David Lauder 15:02, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
