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[edit] Tada!

Just in case you're interested when you come back, Golubac fortress, new and improved. Does it look like I missed anything significant? There are a couple more questions on my talk page (and reworded and mixed with others on the article's talk page), too, if you get a chance. And even if you don't, thanks for stopping by and helping, it filled in and clarified several parts. Good luck with all that RL stuff! -Bbik 03:56, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Great. I replied to some issues on Talk:Golubac fortress. Duja► 10:18, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Extreme Damir Misix

Special:Contributions/Dr. Thug

When I saw his user page (just read it; it's hilarious) and his contributions, I immediately thought it was a troll, and became 100%-certain a throwaway account used only for disruption (a Serbian nationalist who manned his computer in the sole order to show how "evil" the Bosniacs could be). I'm informing You because You've had Your experience with Damir before.

But I was wrong, Duja, the dude's actually dead serious. :))) --PaxEquilibrium 10:08, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

He ain't Damir; Damir was square, but he wasn't as aggressive, and certainly wasn't as Serbophobic. But I'm returning to my wikibreak... Duja► 10:22, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Sure, sure; that's why I wrote "extreme".
BTW didn You see this guy's user page? It's hilarious. :))) --PaxEquilibrium 15:46, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hello

Hello. Please deal with User:Inter16. She has not been here very long so she cannot be an administrator, she is none the less a certain Albanian propogandist. I have investigated that there is no Barakovo in Gnjilane or anywhere in Kosovo, it's a pack of lies, the Albanian propaganda of 1998 wasn't enough so they need to spread more. She threatened me with Blocking and my edits are perfectly allright. This is not on. Will you intervene neutrally? 212.24.91.2 16:04, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Your comment is requested

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barakovo needs a Serbian for information on a local place, supposedly in Serbia. If you have some time, please stop by. Thanks, Jerry 21:25, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Monastery of Daljša

Oh Du-ja! Super-searcher you wouldn't be able to find anything on the place, or even confirm that it still exists, would you? I'm having very little (aka no) luck myself, don't know whether the language advantage you have will help in this case or not.

Also, today's Saturday, isn't it? Hope you're having fun in Smederevo! And I'm guessing you celebrate it, so Happy Easter (Hmm... or "Hristos Vaskrse!"? The things you come across when you get stuck on what you were doing.), too. :) -Bbik 07:48, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

I did that search at the time, and it came out fruitless. I've never heard about Daljša prior to reading Ćorović's book, and the only GHit is from there. I guess it ceased to exist in the 14th century and never recovered.
Vaistinu vaskrse! — Happy Easter to you too! The photos will be on Commons during the day :-). Duja► 07:11, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Oh well. Makes me that much more curious, though.
Pictures, pictures, pictures, weee! :D (Hey, life's a heck of a lot easier if I let even the little things excite me. Besides, I want to see what this place looks like! And I doubt it'll be possible to visit in the foreseeable future, unfortunately. And all this researching and article writing I've been doing is making me want to even more than I did. -- I want to visit everywhere. And anywhere. And learn all about everything, especially languages/dialects {I hate that I can't read all those Serbian links myself. With a passion. Not so much because I have to ask others for help, because that's turned up a lot of interesting information as well, but because it makes it so obvious that I don't know it, and finding some way to learn it? I had a hard enough time finding an online dictionary, and even that's only good part of the time!} and cultures, and history doesn't hurt either, while I'm at it. Cause I'm crazy, and refuse to stop pretending it's possible, because at least some of it's more likely to happen while I think it is, than if I just give up at the start.)
I'm babbling. I'll stop now. -Bbik 07:26, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion of mnerge

Hi Duja,

I’ve just suggested the merging of History of Bosnia and Herzegovina (1941–1945) and Independent State of Croatia articles. If you want to contribute with the discussion, please go there. See you later.--MaGioZal 20:13, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Easter!!!!

Happy Easter, Duja!!!!!!!!!!! --PaxEquilibrium 14:47, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Happy Easter, Pax! Duja► 07:05, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Super-sidetrack

From here, what was that? It certainly doesn't look like a business meeting, which is the best guess I can come up with... What/where are these two?
(Not quite so sidetracked, but doesn't need to be confused in article stuff.) That's rather impressive, too. Not Serbia but... is that common, horses and carts readily available like that? Do you know? -Bbik 05:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

I found the pictures through Google Image search; this is the main page in English; dunno how they got there.
As for the carts, they're very rare to see now in Serbia, except perhaps in the most rural mountainous areas, and except for Gipsies, which drive them even accross the cities collecting old paper and such stuff. Duja► 12:54, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Flag(s?) of Serbia

Drink a rakija, then take a look at Talk:Flag of Serbia#Flag of the People and Flag of the State. Nikola 22:38, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] LONG overdue

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
To Duja, who came out of nowhere, has been answering all my scattered questions, and even those I haven't asked, and all while being busy in real life. I never would've been able to do any of this without your help. Thanks! -Bbik 08:47, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

And even aside from doing anything, just learning about the little differences, and every so often recognizing a word... and getting even more totally wrong... is a blast! -Bbik 08:47, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks :-). Duja► 08:51, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

Please delete this shit:

[edit] Kosovo image

Thanks for the heads up. When I looked this afternoon the image was still there, but they seem to have replaced it by now. Another version was also used by B92 before. Best regards, --Cpt. Morgan (Reinoutr) 21:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] POV in Croatia

Duja, I know you are honest, and I know you are a good editor without any nationalistic bias, like me. There are too few of us from former Yugoslavia. I would ask you to pay attention to the Croatia article. User Medule (a well known vandal and POV-pusher), with his sockpuppet Serboman is inserting POV into this article. I am sadly now behind the 3RR rule, which I will not brake. I have reported the whole sockpuppeting case here [1], and hopefully Medule will either learn his lesson or be banned.

Please be vigilant with the article. Thank you, as a fellow ex-countryman to another :) -- xompanthy 18:00, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Code, code, and more code

So, along with someday being able to read these Serbian sources myself, someday I'll learn some sort of coding and/or programming, too... But in the meantime, any chance you know of a way to center text within the userboxes box, rather than the specific userboxes themselves (If you haven't already found that question in my contrib history, that is!)? -Bbik 04:15, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Done (if that's what you wanted). Don't worry about wikistalking, I just checked your contribs to see whether you re-activated :-). Now, I gotta get back to coding... Duja► 07:02, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Heh, apparently I can't even get in a ":D Thanks!" fast enough to avoid an edit conflict for me. Though, it is amusing that I apparently noticed that soon after. And I'm hardly worried about wikistalking, it's turned out far too useful for that! I'm around... that's mostly there in case I end up poofing for a few days if things turn bad, though they're actually working out right now. -Bbik 07:08, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, that took far longer than it should have, even if I was expecting it to (and seriously hoping it wouldn't, for once...). In any case, I'm back now, since I imagine you're not still checking my contribs while you've gone so much yourself. I've added a couple questions, too, and will probably have several more in a day or two once I get back to it, if you still have any time/interest. -Bbik 09:22, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Antidote

Duja, what happened with the Antidote case? It really makes no sense! --PaxEquilibrium 22:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

How can I know? I barely knew the man, and it all happened last summer. Duja► 06:37, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infoboxes look good

Hi Duja,

The infoboxes look great. Good work! If you have any questions or problems with them— just give me a shout! —MJCdetroit 13:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ban the guy

Earthelemental99 contribs. He continues adding year links to tens and tens of articles after he was explicitly warned not to do so. I'm afraid only a ban will help. --Rabbeinu 00:33, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I see you just got to work. Now let him cool down for a day or 2 without Wikipedia, perhaps... --Rabbeinu 07:38, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
I warned him now in strongest possible terms rather than blocking. Since he and I are in different time zones, and I won't be around for the next 5 days, please report to AN/I if he continues. His behavior appears quite autistic unfortunately. Duja► 07:53, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dražeta

Zašto je članak Dražeta predložen za brisanje kad postoje članci o drugim prezimenima? Vampire in the city 12:37, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Ne postoje baš. Svi ostali članci u kategoriji Category:Serbian surnames, kao i svi iz Category:Surnames koliko sam stigao da pogledam su samo disambiguation strane, koje vode na već postojeće članke o ljudima s istim prezimenom. Ja stvarno ne očekujem da nalazim genealogiju svakog prezimena na kugli zemaljskoj u enciklopediji. Duja► 12:56, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Pa možda bi trebalo očekivati to, jer koliko sam čitao, cilj Vikipedije je da prikupi svo ljudsko znanje, pa čemu sad ova cenzura? Vampire in the city 21:49, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suit templates

I believe you created the Ss Hs Ds and Cs templates (which display suit symbols) for use in bridge (and other) articles, and I think it was a great idea. Have you noticed that User:Dtrebbien is changing all "Ss" to "Spades", apparently just because he wants to use the "ss" template name for something else (related to spelling) ...? Ray Spalding 09:05, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. He's been convinced to revert his changes. Ray Spalding 20:16, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Help

Is there anything you can do because of this person User:MaGioZal. He is saying insults about Serbs, this is just one I seen.[2][3] --Methodius 11:42, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Again: [4]--Methodius 14:23, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Page protection

Hey Duja, any chance I could get you to semi-protect Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything? I'm not quite sure why it isn't already, since it's a fairly obvious target, but... -Bbik 04:29, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't think it fits Wikipedia:Protection policy — it receives barely one attack a day. Duja► 07:42, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Okies. Wasn't sure if the line was drawn based on frequency or ratio of vandalism:legitimate edits, and by ratio (which was what I'd been thinking it was), well, nearly every anon edit's been vandalism. -Bbik 09:40, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please Duja see discussion

Please Duja (i talk to you because you understand any of ex-Yu languages, have arbitrage power and you have neutral view) can you see discussion about Alija Izaetbegovic and eventually protect page from onesided view. He simple ignore official ICTY facts and provide source that does not even talk about Alija IZetbegovic (or does not make any sense) but about Tudjman.Graciella 20:30, 08 May 2007 (UTC)

Please it is rude to tell lies. I included "ICTY" source, acctually it was not ICTY source, but Hartmann's statement. 85.158.35.14 20:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
And the source I provided talks about Izetbegovic as well as other politicians (Tudjman). The problem is that you don't speak our languge and make wrong conclusions. I will be happy that Duja read the source and remove your doubt. 85.158.35.14 20:35, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
U redu.Duja molim te dodji i asistiraj. Dokazi od 85.158.35.14 su apsolutno irelevantni i daleko od svake neutralnosti.Jedna iskinuta recenica iz konteksta koja samo potvrdjuje da je Izetbegovic bio predmet optuznice potvrdju ono sto je vec Hartmann rekao a to je:Izetbegovic je bio predmet nase optuznice... ali cinjenica da je preminuo znaci da je svaka istraga obustavljena[5] zajedno sa oficijelnim iskazom sa Un stranice [6]. btw This is prove to you that i understand excellent all language and that you do not know what you talk about.So please stop to be ignorant.Graciella 20:343, 08 May 2007 (UTC)
How come that you know speak Serbian? Dokazi su apsolutno relevantni. Problem je taj sto tebe rukovodi mrznja, a mene cinjenice. Banjalucki sud je pokrenuo optuznicu protiv hiljadu ljudi od Divijaka do Alije, Tudjaman, i Bog zna koga sve ne. I nakon toga poslao te optuznice na preispitivanje u Haag, nakon cega je haag vodio istragu. I sto je najveca ironija banjalucki sud je sam od sebe povukao optuznice jer nije imao dokaza. Please try to tell the truth it will not hurt you. This is encyclopedia not parlament. 85.158.33.128 20:53, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Da'l ti razumijes Engleski?Da'l mozes da citas ono sto je Hartmann rekao? Ja sam citirao ono sto je on rekao.On govori o prestanku istrage i povlacenu optuznice samo zbog toga sto je Alija preminuo i ni zbog cega drugoga. Ti bez prestanka ignorises to relevantnu cinjenicu i podmeces da je istrage prekinuta zbog nedostatka dokaze gdje nije nigdje receno.Uopce nije sporno ko je dostavio dokaze Den Hagu.Bosnjaci su dostavljali dokaze protiv Hrvata i Srba i obrnuto tako da to uopce nije sporno.Ti izvrces istinu i ne zelis da joj pogledas u oci. Cini mi se da si toliko slijep i da vidis ono sto ne postoji tako da ne mozes da editiras neutralno i pogledas istini u oci.Graciella 21:00, 08 May 2007 (UTC)
Pa zar ti nisi zensko svega ti?! Nigdje se ne govori o optuznici nego o istrazi koja je pocela nakon sto su Srbi poslali tonu materijala. 85.158.33.128 21:18, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Otkada se zanimas za moj spol? Nego u pravu si kada kazes da se radi o istrazi.Ona u biti mora da prethodi eventualnoj optuznici do koje nikada nece doci zbog smrti gos. Izetbegovica. Sve to nije razlog da se govori o povlacenju optuznice bez nedostatka dokaza kada niko nikada to nije spomenuo. U svakom slucaju lijepo da smo postigli koncenzus zahvaljujuci trecoj osobi ali se nadam da neces nastaviti sa igrom editiranja gdje ponovo dodajes nesto svoje i pokusavas ublaziti odnosno promijeniti konteks.A to je da je bio pod istragom ali je obustavljena zbog njegove smrti.Graciella 22:33, 08 May 2007 (UTC)
Nisam nikad govorio o povlacenju optuznice u Hagu jer ona nikad nije ni podignuta. Nego sam rekao da je Banjalucki sud povukao svoju optuznicu istu onu koju je poslao u Haag zbog koje je i pokrenuta istraga. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.158.34.180 (talk) 00:48, 9 May 2007 (UTC).

[edit] IPA

Da li možeš napisati izgovor u člancima Ana Ivanovic, Jelena Jankovic i Novak Đoković. :) --Göran Smith 11:07, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Sređeno. Duja► 11:51, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Could you please do the same for Stefan Nemanja? --PaxEquilibrium 14:59, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orphaned fair use image (Image:Bosilegrad coat of arms.jpg)

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[edit] Proposed naming conventions for Republic of Macedonia

Hi Duja,

I'd be grateful if you could have a look at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Republic of Macedonia-related articles), which is intended to establish a consistent basis for naming RoM-related articles across Wikipedia. I'd appreciate your views on it. -- ChrisO 19:35, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Congrats!

For Eurovision 2007! NikoSilver 22:58, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Maybe you will win one day if your country manages to break up into a sufficient number of smaller states — Cyprus is just not enough :-). Duja► 08:32, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
LOL, imagine if we split it up by region! How will the one on the north be called? (I liked the song -really) NikoSilver 22:22, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Template ff15.PNG

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[edit] Archive box

Dear Duja,

  • Thanks for your suggestion. I was tried some months before, but unfortunately I didnt acvieve. Now may be tomorrow I will try to change archieve system. I may need your help, if something goes wrong.
  • I have a question for copyrights; one user-uploader of some photos, supply info; "my scan from postcard, PD US" and I asked to him for source/URL of that images.No reply.But change copyright from"PD US" to "PD-art-life-70" or delete.What is the policy about this action.? What about old photos/postcards from 1900-1920, is free or not?

Thanks again.Regards. Must.T C 11:49, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your time&efforts.btw;Congratulate for Eurovision 2007 which was the best song for me(But your points came majorly from former provices/new states- a little bit politic:)..)Regards.Happy editing.Must.T C 12:11, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
See my reply to Niko above. Your country should work on membership of Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan etc. in the EBU — that would provide you a lots of 12's :-)). Duja► 08:38, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Belgrade architecture

See Talk:Belgrade, where I found an on-line reference we could use. I'm not sure if I have access to the book. Nikola 10:02, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] props

Well done on fixing some of the citation issues on Belgrade, props for taking the time working on the article when I know you're very busy on Wikipedia already! // laughing man 16:20, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox names

Hi Duja. I have begun a discussion at the talk page of Talk:Bač, Serbia regarding the inclusion of the Slovak name for that locality and, more generally, for situations where a non-Serbian ethnic group makes up more than 15% of the population. Thanks, Ronline ✉ 01:49, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bosniaks in Jasenovac

Whatever the rights and wrongs of Bosniak's comment, it did not come out of the blue. The object of the comment is an informed and conscientious editor but he is also a rather aggressive and abrasive character who is not averse to throwing inflammable fuel gratuitously at a glowing ember. --Opbeith 22:03, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

User:Fairview360 ??? Can you kindly point me to his "throwing inflammable fuel gratuitously at a glowing ember"? He's probably the most rational and polite regular at Srebrenica massacre, who, as I saw it, happened to disagree with Bosniak recently, and in return got yet another "genocide denialist" and "anti-Bosniak" label. Who's next, I ask??? This harrasment must stop. Duja► 07:39, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
You don't seem to have been around when I made my ill-fated attempt to help revise the Srebrenica Massacre content on the mass executions. While the content could have been abbreviated I felt that respect for the facts that were central to the article meant incorporating information that had more recently become available, mainly from ICTY sources, correcting errors and resolving some conflicting details. This wasn't a simple task and the version I produced was lengthier and less polished than it might have been. However I was trying to respond to the person in question's urging to put up my contribution because he needed the exercise to be completed quickly because of imminent commitments (pressures on him that I know are legitimate and in fact reflect very positively on him). I acknowledged that my version was rushed and still needed some work on it and certainly wasn't seeking to impose it as a finished version. I was taken aback by the response I received from him, and I'm a lot less willing now to become involved in "collaborative" editing.
This person has made a lot of valuable contributions. Nevertheless he is also abrasive and provocative, and not just in the instance I have mentioned above. I know from past experience that you yourself have a pretty dismissive attitude towards my contributions, so I'm not replying to you with the aim of engaging in an exchange of views, I simply want to say that I don't accept your judgment as being as informed and authoritative as you appear to believe it is. --Opbeith 09:41, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
For your reference, here are the last edits I made at the end of that attempt at collaborative editing. Fairview360 13:51, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
At the Srebrenica page: I would like to see success with this initiative before I need to step back, but if that is not going to happen so be it. Thank you for your efforts. Best of luck. Fairview360 17:08, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
At Djma12's talk page in reference to Opbeith and Gardenfli: Djma12, I had an unusually large amount of free time in March but that is now evaporating. (Ironically enough, one reason is that I am going to Europe to celebrate a wedding.) I need to step back from the Srebrenica article. I believe you will find, even in the midst of disagreements, that the two other editors involved in this sub-article initiative, Gardenfli and Opbeith, are acting in good faith. Fairview360 18:23, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi again!

Sticking this here mostly because I don't know if you're still watching my talk page or userspace, but I'm back to working on Smederevo again, and have just added (a lot) more questions, though I don't know if you'll be able to clarify any of them or not. Also, any chance of more translation to fill in the gaps?

At this point, I'm thinking I'll just finish rewriting what's there, hopefully find some answers so I can get all those giant chunks of text out of the way, and copy it over to mainspace. It's taking far too long, and it's not looking like I'll have much time for it in the near future, don't know about you, so... Might as well let others have at it. -Bbik 03:47, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Will take a look. Duja► 10:51, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
The whole Hungarian vassal vs Turkish overlordship's moved to my talk page, was starting to take up too much space. You folks have some rather confusing history, you know! (Though, I'd imagine we do too...) -Bbik 06:30, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, and while we're at it... Does Peace of Szeged make sense? I can't look at it anymore without reading what it doesn't say. I'll have to go back through it in a couple days to clean up the last bits, mainly wikilinks and such, but in the meantime, there's another red link gone from Golubac fortress. -Bbik 08:49, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Will (maybe) take a look, my mind is in a similar state :-). Duja► 10:51, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Diyarbakır

Dear Duja,

Dear Duja, Take a look please. Admin user open a nomination for me, due to the this article, Due to Genocide, Unofficial Capital etc. I put my immediate reply there and I will improve later. Due to my languae level I may need help.Regards.Must.T C 21:51, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kubura's edit at the CWOI

I also don't think constantly repeating "rebelled Serbs" whenever Serbs are mentioned is quite NPOV. --PaxEquilibrium 20:52, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

Pa taj municipality infobox treba da napraviš da izgleda kao na strani za razgovor kod Bača - zajedno sa napomenom i manjinskim imenima 70% manjim. PANONIAN 08:22, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok, shvatio san gde je bio problem i popravio sam to - ne treba ništa menjati u infoboxu. PANONIAN 08:24, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Dakle, problem je bio kod upotrebe srpskog imena u latiničnoj verziji. Sada sam to verujem sredio, tako da se infobox slobodno može vratiti na raniju verziju. PANONIAN 08:35, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Aman. Revertovao sam vec na ono staro. Odgovorio sam na Talk:Bač, Serbia. Duja► 08:37, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Template

Dear Duja, Sorry for my intervene. Logo was in wrong place in template.I tried to place it under title.That is all.Regards.Must.T C 08:23, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Dear Duja,

here my two cents for template;

  • Adding "Province": name of province after "District"
  • Linking "population" to ; "List of cities/towns/municipalities of Serbia"(by population)
  • Linking "settlements" to ; [[List of settlements in {{PAGENAME}} , Serbia]] or to a section in [[List of settlements in Serbia#{{PAGENAME}} ]]
  • Linking "Mayors" to ; [[List of Mayors of {{PAGENAME}}, Serbia]] or [[List of Mayors of {{{districtname}}}, Serbia]]

Just some offers.(I may help for this work) Regards. Must.T C 09:02, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

  1. Re population/settlements: the appropriate Serbian pages are in disorder; I have the data ready but it's a major work to organize them. I appreciate the suggestion, but I'd rather not link to them in this moment :-)
  2. Re mayors: we don't have pages of lists of mayors, nor I think they would be appropriate; majority of municipality mayors are not notable, and it's certainly difficult to get to the data from the past.
  3. Re district: it is omitted both for brevity (saving horizontal space) and for avoiding redundance: isn't it nicer to write: "District: Northern Bačka" than "District: Northern Bačka District"?
Duja► 09:20, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Protection?

Does Vampire get enough vandalism to warrant (eternal) semi-protection? It used to be, a month or two ago; for some reason that ended, and from that day on... Let's just say it's a very noticable change. I hadn't even realized it was semi-protected until it wasn't, and I went to see why it was popping up on my watchlist so much all the sudden. -Bbik 19:39, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

So, can it be protected again? Six hits since the protection expired just over 24 hours ago.
Since people don't seem to want to set it to indefinite semi-protection, is there some policy behind that? When is it ok for a page to have it set to indefinite, as compared to only temporary? Logic would say the temporary protection would be for temporary problems (a single vandal that won't go away or starts using sockpuppets or the like), and indefinite's for when the vandalism's constant, rather than by a single person (or small group of people). Is there something more to it? Because by my understanding, I can't see any reason why Vampire shouldn't be indefinitely protected, since it's hardly a time-based or specific person-based problem. -Bbik 21:27, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
Figures, the article actually went quiet for a couple days after the first spat. That's the first time I remember seeing that happen. In any case, thanks. :) -Bbik 22:19, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Studentski protest

Yes, it says DO INVITE not "don't invite", so you did good. :) I will try to dig out some sources and to find and scan some "memorabilia" (badges, fliers, what not, if I still have it). I am also short with time, but hopefully I will be able to spare some hours by this weekend. Cheers and hope to see you for a drink soon :) --★čabrilo★ 12:48, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Belgrade

Concerning the article's FAR. You say "you'll leave the copy-editing to somebody with a better command of English". A friendly advice: don't just "leave it", becasue nobody will appear! Try to mobilize yourself a copy-editor. And if you have problems finding or knowing any of them, I can recommend you the best around! Somebody will finally accept! After all, I do not think the article has serious copy-editing flaws. It is going to be a smooth job. Cheers!--Yannismarou 08:12, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Check the page's recent history Belgrade (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs); admittedly, I wasn't around when it was being promoted to a FA, but I'm kind of pissed off that practically no one else stood up to adress the issues. So, I want to exercise my right to immaturely pout regarding the issue. :-) Duja► 08:36, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I understand, but if copy-editing is the last problem left in the article (if we admit that this is a problem), it is a stupid reason for the article to lose the star (if it finally loses it, something I seriously doubt). After all, I'm also the only one right now trying to save Byzantine empire, something that also happened with Manuel Komnenos and Greek mythology. I had also thought to "exercise my right to immaturely pout", and to kick some asses, but then I decided not to, and just do the job, because, otherwise, nobody else would do it we would have one FA minus in Wikipedia!--Yannismarou 09:18, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] NS cleanup

Poz :)

Želim da konačno bude gotov NS text, pa sada sam krenuo da sređujem neke delove. Video sam da si ovo napisao:

"During the socialist period, new blocks with wide streets and multi-story buildings were built around the city core. Fortunately, not many communist-style high-rise buildings were built, and the total number of 10+ floor buildings remained at 20-30, most of the rest being 3-6 floor apartment buildings. Two new boulevards (today's Bulevar oslobođenja and Bulevar Mihajla Pupina) were cut through the old housings in 1962-1964, establishing major communication lines. Several more boulevards were subsequently built in a similar manner, creating an orthogonal network over what used to be mostly radial structure of old houses. Those interventions paved the way for a relatively unhampered growth of the city, which almost tripled its population since 1950[verification needed], and traffic congestions (except on a few critical points) are still relatively mild despite the huge boost of car numbers, especially in later years.

Kapiram da je ovo iz glave, ali mislim da bi nam za taj deo trebale neke reference, ako imaš. I ako vidiš da nešto treba menjati, menjaj :))) --Göran Smith 19:17, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Erm, jeste iz glave :-D. 'Ajd probaću nesto da nađem. Duja► 07:04, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nationality

HELLOOO, you seem confident in your knowledge, well let me correct you on just a few things: firstly, speaking as one who has lived in an English speaking country since he was born, the word "nationality" has two meanings in any good detailed dictionary, to which ethnic group or its nearest description is both the first of the two, as well as the one which originally defined the word. In the UK, people often enquire about nationality not knowing themselves exactly what the Hell they mean; ask me, I've been there thousands of times. As for "Citizenship means Nationality", that too is inaccurate. Citizenship is merely one form of that type of nationality (legal individual status - the second description). There are atleast four other strands of nationality which are not citizenship; whoever acquires what is down to the circumstances. Finally, if as you say, the English language nationality means legal status, why apply it to a politician? Where is the sense in a Swedish citizen/national running affairs in Malta? Unless he were Maltese by some form of documentation, there would be a conflict of interest. And even if you can answer that one, perhaps you should check Ibrahim Rugova, remember him? What does it say on his nationality? Or will you poke fun at the user who submitted his entry? Evlekis 22:01, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm not saying that nationality and citizenship are exact synonyms; well, I can't explain it all in the edit summary. In any case, the issue is moot: someone already complained on vagueness of the entry. The apparent disparity cames from "western" and "eastern" understanding of the term nation, (see Nationality#Alternative usage). As for the infobox itself, I think that using "Serbian" is fairly redundant, while using "Yugoslav" is intruding and bordering with rude (that's his own business after all). Should we remove the entry altogether and be done with it? Duja► 07:03, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
I totally forgot about this! I suppose lots of things are rude and intruding, but who cares? They gave up their privacy when they decided to become politicians, pop stars, rock stars, footballers, prostitutes, reality TV stars and the like. Expose them all, if you can source the size of his penis - do it! Only joking. I had a similar discussion on the Nationality talk page with a user called Leon some months back where it became clear to both of us that the term is rendered differently according to society and custom. Perhaps it is pointless keeping in on but I am not the sort of user who deletes things just because they are not interesting, there are those who oppose the infoboxes all together and prefer its details to be distributed throughout the passage in text form, which is fair given that this is an encyclopaedia, but then "Oliver Dulić is a Serbian citizen, hence has Serbian nationality" won't fit anywhere. In the end of the day, we all seek information; I often like to know how tall someone is, particularly sportists; personal though this may be, it is never the less something which one is interested to know if he/she follows that sport: in the case of Nikola Žigić or Ivo Karlović where their heights are clearly above average in their sporting feilds, it is fine to mention it in text; with someone closer to average in their game (eg. Nemanja Vidić or Mario Ančić), it is not notable but still interesting, so there it can stay in the infobox. That's my view if you're asking me about personal details on infoboxes; as you can see I am not militant and I won't go back and touch the Dulić nationality section. A small note: I know that we do not follow a strict policy when listing individual's countries of birth; I often fill these in. As you know, most of the time, it involves the country Yugoslavia (in one of its old forms). Of course, there are times it is something else (Austria-Hungary, Ottoman Empire, Republic of Venice, Austrian Empire, Kingdom of Serbia etc), and usually it goes unchallenged, but there are those who take issue particularly with Yugoslavia. My policy to date has been to viciously revert them because I know that they serve only to promote their interests as opponents of the old country, my most recent battle involved a User:Tomizgro who it appears, does not repsond to talk comments, nor post any serious notes on his summaries. The automated services have collared him about image uploading and I have spoken to him about removing country of birth. It looks to me like this user is ignoring everything. Any comments? Personally, I'd have him blocked but then it is not for me to judge. Evlekis 11:02, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] MaGioZal

you were correct.

The anon is him.

What is precisely the reason you asked for the Checkuser? --PaxEquilibrium 17:36, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

"'EQUALLY GUILTY?. JUST LOOK INTO ICTY AND SEE THAT MOST OF THE CRIMINALS WERE THE SERBS UNDER THE COMMAND OF BUTCHERS ARKAN, MLADIC AND MILOSEVIC. SO SHUT UP, YOU IDIOT CHETNIK!"
MaGioZal has just confirmed that he said this as that anon you were chasing, but he apologized because he was slightly annoyed. I just thought you should know. Cheers. --PaxEquilibrium 14:32, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
As he declared, he gave up fighting evil Chetniks, so the issue is moot now; I don't know what caused such hate of his in the first place. Duja► 14:39, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
However, he has failed to keep his promise. --PaxEquilibrium 21:27, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I would like to remind you that I usually connect to the internet via Telefónica’s PPPoE DSL service, so each time I and other users of the service connect, different IP numbers are given each time. So, not all 200.232.231.107 edits can be attributed specifacally for me or any other user of the service here.--MaGioZal 04:10, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

And I would to remind you that you that you admitted and apologized for the trolling in question, if you deny it now you'll only attach even greater problems, so just stick to that, please. --PaxEquilibrium 13:07, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Meanwhile

Well... while you were making a statement on Eio's talk page regarding Suyab, I was blocking him for 3RR. I seem to think the block is necessary, but do you believe I should unblock now that the stern warning is in place? -- tariqabjotu 16:01, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I thought to unblock... in order to extend the block to 48 hours at least. He was behaving like WP:DICK the entire day; the incident at WP:AN/3RR was just the tip of the iceberg. Duja► 16:03, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I was not aware of those events when I was making the block (I spent about ten minutes trying to wade through the history of Suyab). I'll keep it at twenty-four hours for now, but feel free to bring up the idea of extending the block length at ANI. -- tariqabjotu 16:07, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Never mind; the block has been extended to 96 hours. -- tariqabjotu 16:10, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Answer

AS YOU KNOW I CHANGED MY MIND AND WHEN I CONSIDER SITUACION I WAS DELETED 'CALLING VANDAL POST',SO YOU DON'T HAVE REASON TO BE BITTER. I AM TRYING TO BE GOOD EDITOR,OK,EVERYONE MISTAKES.IT HAPPENS! CHEERS! User:Bg007 31 maj 2007 12:14 AM (US Central Time)

[edit] Thank you Duja

Thanks man for sticking up for me at my Talk Page. I trully appreciate it. It's time for the Balkans to focus on the future. Bosniak 00:27, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] burnt out

I'm feeling a little burnt out editing here. How have you lasted so long? :) // laughing man 02:03, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm burnt out too... for what it's worth. Too much stress. Still, wikipediholism is a tough thing to get rid of... :-) Duja► 10:48, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Lipovac

Zapravo onaj kod Ražnja ima čak 558. Ali, onda sam googlao "Lipovac site:dzs.hr", i našao ih još i po Hrvatskoj... ko kusih pasa ih ima :) Mislim da je najbolje da zasad ostavim ovaj najveći tamo kako i je, pa kad netko doista poželi napraviti članak o nekom drugom, da onda to riješimo, jer inače je disambiguation svrha sam sebi, a to sa minornim stranim toponimima na en: baš i nema nekog posebnog smisla. --Joy [shallot] 22:17, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Montenegrin language percentages

What exactly was your source on this?

It says over 22% when it should be below 22%. The full-scale figure's 21.53%, so... I guess that there was a bad calculation - it's less, not more. --HolyRomanEmperor 15:10, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
The census was 3 years ago — if we could count it now, I'm positive that the percentage would be much closer, if not over, 50%. Duja 15:47, 26 June 2006 (UTC)Italic text

--Igor82 14:11, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

If I had the source, I would have put it in the article -- as it is, it's only a speculation... or an educated guess, if you prefer. I'm not aware of any polls and statistics carried on the issue in the meantime. That certainly further widens the door for politization (compare "number of Albanians in Kosovo" or "ethnic composition of BiH") -- until a census or at least a proper statistic research is conducted, it's anybody's guess. Duja► 14:45, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

The NDI (National Demographic Institute) claims that around (or over, can't remember) 60% of the population of Montenegro considers Serbian as their native language... and don't expect a new census any time soon (by then most citizens could possibly declare Montenegrin). --PaxEquilibrium 19:37, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nationality?

Duja, I've come to understand that "nationality" means citizen of state on people's bio templates, is that right?

I know that it should say "Slovene", "Croatian", "Bosnian", "Macedonian" and "Montenegrin" for the corresponding states - but that is no case for Serbia. Inhabitants of Serbia are still "Yugoslavians". Shouldn't it say than "Yugoslav", at least until the authorities regulate that?

Should I change that (for now)?

Hint: look at your passport. ;) --PaxEquilibrium 22:03, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Er, Duja? So yes or no? --PaxEquilibrium 13:19, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Of course no. It only proves that passwords issued in Yugoslavia are still valid in Serbia. And nothing else. Duja► 13:35, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
But isn't citizenship of Serbian citizens "Yugoslavian", rather than "Serbian" (and that's not just the passports) still? Do you not write "Yugoslav" in the nationality section when asked? --PaxEquilibrium 14:40, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
No. Why would that be? Duja► 15:48, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] lazio_gio

Hey Duja, this is lazio gio. Please write to me at lazio_gio@easy.com I may have violated wikipedias rules of etiquettes but I am not Vince B, I have no idea who he is. Can you explain to me how I can get unblocked? Thanks

[edit] Belgrade

Added info that during World War I most of offensive occured near Belgrade and short intro into "why" with reference to Gavrilo Princip, see article Belgrade. Hope it doesn't get deleted as it is part of Belgrade's history! Bosniak 05:27, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanx!

Thanks Duja. Keep active. Bosniak 04:32, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "Crap"

Hi Duja, why did you delete Anti-Bosnian sentiment article, and why did you call it "crap"? You know well what happened with Bosniakophobia article, as it was decided by popularity contest, rather than a fair decision, read here. So, now Bosniaks were prevented from having Bosniakophobia article and now we are prevented from having Anti-Bosniak sentiment article. You need to acknowledge that you were wrong here and that you acted with total lack of objectivity. Don't you agree with me? There were times I acted with lack of objectivity, now be a man and recognize your own mistakes, and let's build Anti-Bosniak sentiment article again. Bosniak 22:18, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Update, I have also posted my opinion at admin noticeboard (not to be constructed as complaint, but as my dissatisfaction with your decision) here. Bosniak 22:41, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Serbophobia

Duja, you and I are apparently of (at least partially) different opinions about how to write the Serbophobia article. My first option is to delete the article alltogether. This since I don't think Serbophobia is a real, systemic and established concept only a name used by some. However, if the decision has been to keep the article, I think it should be as NPOV as possible. To me, this means that is should start off by saying that Serbophobia means xxx and only then, in separate sections called something like "Political use of the term" go on to explain how different people believe that the term has been used. It's important to be clear about the difference between opinion and fact.

In the interest of avoiding another long arbitration process I think it would be best to agree on something. I don't think the current version is acceptable. In my opinion, the most constructive way forward would be if you or Francis proposed another version. Comment? Cheers Osli73 21:43, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

My first option is to delete Serbophobia as well; nothing good can come out if it, and I'm kind of surprised it survived the AfD. I think Francis erred rewritting it in the middle of the AfD; the garbage is still in the history and Nikola is fighting a sterile edit war to restore it. I don't think that passing mentions of the term and its (mis)use for nationalistic purposes are worth an article.
I'm still advocating the refactoring most of the thing into Serbo-Croatian relations (a NPOV fork? :-))—there is lots of scholarly material available: Google books En, a fine one, another fine one, V. Krestic's study on 19th century, Google Scholar, etc. There are (at least) two sides of a coin; no NPOV version can be achieved without explaining them both. There already is Serbo-Albanian conflict which can be made NPOV and better sourced; I'm less enthusiastic for "Serbo-Bosniak relations", due to lack of scholarly material and inherent focus on the Bosnian War. However, I don't really have time these days for research and writing. I don't really have either vested interest or time to defend Serbophobia from crap; until the next AfD, the best solution would be to keep it to bare bones. Duja► 07:38, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Duja, this is the first time I hear that you deleted Serbophobia along with Bosniakophobia and various anti-Ethnic Sentiments. I was not accusing you per se, I was just disagreeing with you. Why was Serpophobia restored? Let's delete all of these neologisms and focus on real articles. Let's stop politics. My latest article, The Bosnian Book of Dead dealt with the manipulations that were propagated by ethnic politics in Bosnia-Herzegovina. We need to put a stop to this crap (as you called it), and move forward! Who is FOR and who is AGAINST? Bosniak 01:11, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On June 26, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Vlasina Lake, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Well done on the article, and your hard work and persistence in these Balkan topics Duja. We don't see enough of the good Balkan work on DYK so feel free to self nom in substantial quantities. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 03:37, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Blnguyen; if only I had more time. I wrote the article out of need to walk out of the tension, and write something interesting and non-controversial... for a change. Duja► 07:49, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sin Sizzerb

Just letting you know that I've nuked the articles associated with Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sin Sizzerb, except for Big Mike and Purple City Productions. I don't think they're related to this advertising campaign. —Xezbeth 21:30, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] unblock request [[7]]

Hi Duja This user has requested unblocking. Since, I'm not familiar with VinceB; would you mind giving me a heads up of how you determined it was a sock? Feel free to use e-mail if you prefer. Thanks Spartaz Humbug! 17:21, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I blocked him on the "quack" basis; see his talk. Admittedly, the pattern of his edits was too short to positively identify him as a sock, so it might have been just a coincidence. His persistence in unblocking requests, somewhat paradoxically, persuaded me that he might not be VinceB's sock -- Vince was on a dynamic IP and he would just create another named or anonymous sock when blocked; he wouldn't bother with unblock requests. I unblocked him for now. Duja► 07:18, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] q:Vladimir Putin

It is easy to spell q:Vladimir Putin. It is very difficult, however, to correct all the links referring back to Wikipedia that it contains. I don't have an account on Wikiquotes. If you do, please correct all internal links.Colchicum 14:07, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] BiH infoboxes

Duja, since I am currently in Bosnia and at times have nothing to do, may I start merging to BiH infoboxes? I think having two separate infoboxes is pointless. The RS one does not even mention Bosnia and Herzegovina that makes it, to some extent, appalling... I have seen that in the Dubica article you have mentioned that the infoboxes need to be merged and I agree, that is why I am just wondering what your stance on the presiding issue is. Thank you, Vseferović 17:42, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Great Minds Think Alike™; the same thing was passing through my head yesterday, and I had you in mind. Right now, I'm quite busy to discuss the details (and I won't be around until Monday), but I'll throw in few details:
  • I find {{Infobox RS}} better designed and more flexible (optional arguments) overall (after all, it was based on my code :-) ), but I also think that forking the {{Bosnia and Herzegovina municipalities}} solely for aesthetic and quasi-legalese (municipalities fall under entity, not federal law) reasons unacceptable.
  • The infobox should probably be called Template:Infobox BiH municipality
  • A (semi-) temporary solution might involve retaining both currently used infoboxes, but as redirects to Template:Infobox BiH municipality, similar to creating a wrapper in programming language. That would save some work on editing all municipality issues For example, the code of "Bosnia and Herzegovina municipalities" could look like
    {{Infobox BiH municipality |name={{{native_name}}} |name_cyr={{{name_cyr}} |...}}
  • The maps could turn out to be the biggest point of contention; ones used for RS visually emphasize the RS/FBiH borders too much, while ones used for FBiH do it too little (political agendas hidden in colors, eh). I'm not positive if municipality borders on both are correct (there was some discussion somewhere on that issue, I recall you participated). I'd suggest using different shades of same color instead, to make everyone happy, but it would also require a lot of manual work on images. (Although, I'm a software developer and I have some libraries ready, so perhaps that could be automatized). Duja► 10:50, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Great, so the name of the infobox would be: "Infobox BiH municipality", which is perfectly fine with me. I would need a lot of help regarding the code and design of the infobox. I will be at a Bosnian Wikipedia conference which will be held on the 14th and can check with them, since you currently do not have the time. The maps will present the biggest issue. I would suggest we follow the CIA World factbook one or a UN one. I personally see those maps as the most accurate ones. Thank you and greetings, Vseferović 13:47, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the help with Pennsylvania Punch Bowl. Would you mind taking a look at User:JohnnyNutty? Thanks again. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 21:18, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. See also WP:DFTT; you seem to have many on your back. Duja► 13:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Gepids

Can you change name of the Gepid article to Gepids? Since this speak about entire people, it should be in plural form. PANONIAN 08:50, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] River

Thank you for sorting out the river list. I was working on translating the information but there was still work to do.

As far as the names of the rivers are concerned, they follow the recommendations of the Wikipedia rivers project. I had some doubts about where the name river should be included and where not, as in the example you quoted. However, many rivers have names which coincide with localities, mountains or other features where the name river is warranted. If River is added only to those, it leads to an non-homogeneous result. How could you know beforehand, that Abrud should be Abrud River because there is a Village Abrud, but Arieş should not. Besides, when somebody discovers this ambiguity, all links have to be changed. Therefore, as a general rule I prefered to have the rivers with the River added (except where the name River is included in the foreign language name) and to have redirects. In this case however you search you find it.

I have another problem where I would like your input. It is the name of international rivers. I have suggested in the discussion of the Wikipedia River project, that we adopt the rule of naming the article after the name in the country with the longest reach, if there is no usual English name for it. This would mean that the Danube remains Danube, but the Tisa river is Tisza as the longest reach is in Hungary. However it would mean that the Brzava should be Bârzava. Anyway, a rule should be set to avoid conflicts. Maybe you can post your input on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rivers so that a consensus can be reached.

Thanks againAfil 14:52, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Back at it...

A question for you, since I'm back to working on the Smederevo fortress stuff at least for a while:

...One was a sacral complex, Blagoveštenje You named it Blagoveštenjska below (now in it's own "Further reading" section so I don't lose the links), what does the spelling difference mean, or does it? ...

You can answer here or there, doesn't much matter to me. Something that minor when I still have all the rest to do, it's not a rush, mostly just bringing it to your attention since it is such a minor, so hopefully easy, thing.

Stay cool! I hear it's been hotter over there than our heat waves here, even. -Bbik★ 21:22, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Blagoveštenjska is feminine adjective of Blagoveštenje (Annunciation), referring to crkva (church) (-ski(y), -ska(ya), -sko(e) are common Slavic adjectival suffixes).
Today it's rainy with predicted daily high of 20 °C, which is a pleasant refreshment compared with 35°C the day before yestarday. Since I basically hate the heat, I'd prefer it to stay that way, at least until I go to vacation :-). Duja► 06:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Hmm... so what're the (y, ya, e) parts? Are they used in Serbian, or just the "common Slavic" bit? I know I've seen the three endings, but can't recall seeing the extra letters. (Eternally curious and love languages. Shame I can't look these details up myself, this is I think the best thing I've found so far... So complete. Image:Confused-tpvgames.gif (They need some decent eye-rolling faces.))
Only 20 there today? Maybe I should've been telling myself to stay cool, I think you sent the heat to us! Don't think we've hit 40 yet, but it must be close. And it was so nice the past couple days, too. Agreed, though, heat can go find somewhere else to visit. And humidity, for that matter, nasty stuff. Tell the rain to get itself out and dried up now, so you can have sun for vacation! -Bbik★ 18:59, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
The "extra" -y, -ya, -e (Русский, Русскaя, Русскoе) are used in Russian (and possibly other East Slavic), and can be also found in Old Church Slavonic. Offhand, I'd say that all or most other Slavic languages dropped them. Duja► 07:09, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dear Duja

You may wish to see updates at User talk:Mosquera, particularly the revision history. Cheers, Iamunknown 08:57, 12 July 2007 (UTC)