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[edit] Seasons

IMDB notwithstanding, the pre-1996 episodes and the post-1997 episodes were always treated as a single series; the post-97 eps were even called Season 3 and Season 4. There is no historical basis for treating the two blocks as separate series. Bearcat 08:18, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

In Canada they were treated as two separate series. The 1996 Canadian TV guide refers to the final episode of season two as a 'series finale', and the 1997 Canadian TV guide refers to the first episode with Callum Keith Rennie as a 'series premiere'. Publication articles from 1996 state that the series was cancelled. Although CTV did secure international investment for a revival of the series a year later, they can't go back in time and change the original cancellation. That is why most television sites refer to them as two series.
The 1996 guide refers to it as a series finale because nobody knew at the time that the series would be subsequently revived. The point remains that the episodes airing after 1997 were produced and packaged as "Season Three" and "Season Four", and therefore have to be considered a continuation of the existing series, not an entirely separate series. Oh, and the other assertion that you made in the article, that "this is a common phenomenon in Canadian television" is also completely baseless.
And furthermore, the fact that a series has been cancelled does not mean that a subsequent revival is automatically an entirely new series, else Cagney & Lacey, Designing Women, The Family Guy and others would also have to be split into multiple articles. The precedent is always that if a series is cancelled and then later revived with the same name and premise, the new episodes are treated as the same series. Every reputable reference work on Canadian television treats the two blocks of Due South as a single series, as do most fan sites. IMDB seems to be, from what I can tell, an isolated exception based on their own Americentric view. Bearcat 03:37, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
CTV did refer to it as a spin-off when it first started. But they have the right to go back and change their minds at a later date. It's an interesting conundrum as to what to refer to it as, because even CTV and the Canadian news couldn't make up their minds. Most of the 1997 references were about a 'brand new' DS, not a rejuvenated. That's not saying I'm agreeing or disagreeing with any particular side, just that it was presented that way. D'Amico 00:18, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stanley Raymond Kowalski

1) In other words, the man's name includes the Raymond. It was an integral part of the character's development. SB added.

Ray: Yes, I think. Look, I'm not Ray. I mean, I am Ray, but I'm not Ray Vecchio. I'm... Kowalski. Stanley Raymond Kowalski. Fraser: Your name is Stanley Kowalski? Ray: Look, my Dad had a thing for Brando. Me, it was always Steve McQueen. So I go by Ray. Fraser: Well, it's a pleasure to meet you, Ray Kowalski. [they shake hands]

(Dialogue courtesy of 'Real due South' http://www.realduesouth.net/) (Is that sufficient citation for a website?)

2) Could a pic of Kowalski be included?

Ashlan 23:52, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Capitalization

Does anyone know for 100% (quote/ref from somewhere) if officially, the shows title is due South or Due South? I always thought it was without the initial capitalization, but someone has changed this, citing that on allianceatlantis.com they capitalize it (a google search of their site doesnt show any useful pages, only pdf's mentioning the show). However on all official products I've seen, books, DVDs, the shows titles, the 'd' is clearly not capitalized. On this Paul Gross website [1] it is uncapitalized as well as a number of fansites [2] I've seen. Since both of those sites seem to be pretty comprehensive regarding the show, I'd assume they'd have it right? I am aware that some sites capitalize it, but is that because they're not aware its supposed to be uncapitalized? Thoughts anyone? -- Lewis 22:37, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I was wondering about this. It would be nice to keep the capitalization standardised throughout the article (a petty concern, I know) --Lucian Gregory 16:58, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
I agree, I'd just also prefer it to be the correct way too. I dont want to switch it back to uncapitalized without some sort of consensus as someone already changed it back citing that the small d is just a logo design choice, but isnt everything that does this like eBay and so forth just a design choice too? -- Lewis 17:27, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Defenestration

It was previously reported here (and elsewhere online) that every episode of the show featured "defenestration of some kind or other", which isn't true. Episodes often feature characters jumping out of windows under varying degrees of duress, but for example, in the episode "They Eat Horses, Don't They?" the nearest anyone comes is Fraser leaning out of a window to talk to someone on the street.

Well, there is the scene of Fraser jumping out of the window from the Pilot in the title sequence of every episode. I know it doesn't really count, but anyway...! --Guypuz 17:09, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] tvmilk.com link-spam bot?

Is tvmilk.com spamming this page via a robot, or is it a misguided human? There's an allegation at talk.thewb.com that tvmilk is a pirated DVD site, and I see little sign of human intervention in these repeated commentless anonymous edits.

FlashSheridan 16:53, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

It happened again; I've reported this on the Spam blacklist page.

—FlashSheridan 17:08, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Duesouthcd1.jpg

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[edit] Diefenbaker and Garfield

Having learned that the wolfdog was named after Prime Minister John George Diefenbaker, I surmise the reaction for Canadians is similar to that of Americans when they hear of comic strip / cartoon cat Garfield being named after President James A. Garfield. --BlueNight (talk) 17:35, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Red Green Actors

So if there is a mention of Steve Smith in the article, should we put in that Patrick McKenna (Harold) is in the episode "Pizzas and Promises" as one of the car salesmen?SmartSped (talk) 06:23, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Name Thing

In the article it says,

When Fraser was asked by an official for his mother's maiden name, he answered, 'Pinsent.'

I don't get it. Katie ( Let's talk!! ) 16:37, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


Pinsent is the surname of the actor who plays the ghost of Benton's Father. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.172.230 (talk) 03:45, 7 April 2008 (UTC)