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Contents 1 Tawassul suggestion 1.1 POV check 1.2 Bias 1.2.1 Flat English 1.3 ==== 1.4 Article starts with horrible misspelling of du'a in Arabic! 1.5 RE:Tawassul

[edit] Tawassul suggestion

Tawassul takes a different meaning in sufi texts. It may be important to include what tawassul is in sufi contexts. In the non-sufi veiw, people generally do not do this but sufis usually go to garveyards and perform tawassul through dead saints. They make them their intermediary to Allah. The hadiths are claimed to be fabricated in the salafi madhab, but sufis go by hadiths that say, "Go to dead saints" (to perfrom tawassul). It is agreed upon many scholars that these hadith are fabricated, but it should be mentioned and shown in the article that sufis perform tawassul as such. Salafihater 18:27, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] POV check

This article reads like a dawa / preaching introduction to Islam. It's not that it's wrong... it just cites Qur'an and hadith directly (incidentally the Qur'an has been interpretted in many ways throughout history)... so, that should be worked out but I have no concept of where to find scholarly sources on this subject... gren グレン 02:13, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bias

This article explains the concept of dua according to the puritanical wahhabi sect rather than mainstream sunni Islam, but this is never explicitly mentioned anywhere which is deceptive. The practice of Tawassul through the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), for instance, is a form of dua that is accepted by the main sunni schools of thought.

[edit] Flat English

The quality of the English in this article is atrocious, it requires a major revision. Text is bloated, tenses are wrong, sentences are flat and have little impact on the reader.

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[edit] Article starts with horrible misspelling of du'a in Arabic!

Someone spelled it starting with a dhal and then a ghain!! (instead of dal followed by ain). Would someone proficient in Arabic confirm/correct this?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yerubal (talk • contribs) 18:46, 13 November 2007 (UTC) APOLOGIES -- When I enlarged the font, I could see that these were not dots (no ghayin, no dhal), but rather the vowels, a damma and a fatha. So there was nothing wrong. It only looked as though those were dots. yerubal 04:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC) The only leftover: Maybe the Arabic should be enlarged, so that more people would see it clearly as it is. yerubal 04:29, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE:Tawassul

If many Scholars agree that the Dead Saints Hadith is fabricated, then I think we should leave it out of the du'a section in Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TrainTC (talk • contribs) 19:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

which dead saints hadith? The permissibility of tawassul through the Prophet (sallAllah 'alaihi wa sallam) is established by the hadith of the blind man related by Imam Tirmidhi with a chain of transmission through Uthman ibn Hunayf, a hadith he rated as hasan sahih gharib in his terminology. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.150.84.155 (talk) 21:42, 24 March 2008 (UTC)