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[edit] Using an image from German Wikipedia on English Wikipedia

{{helpme}} I would like to use the image at http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:BMBF_Logo.svg on the English Wikipedia page for the Federal Ministry of Education and Research in its {{Infobox Govt Agency}} transclusion. How do I do this?

Unfortunately, since it's not on Commons, you will have to upload the image here. See Wikipedia:Uploading images to see how to do this. NF24(radio me!) 20:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Headings

Yes, I understand, you should think of this as a standard heading like "contents". So SmackBot will make these headings plural (and correct a number of spelling errors and capitalisation errors) - per MoS [1]. Rich Farmbrough, 08:23 6 December 2007 (GMT).


[edit] Northern Arizona Ethnic Arts Network

Why doesn't this fit? I decided to write this after I found a local small town radio station KWMX. If they fit why doesn't the Northern Arizona Ethnic Arts Network?

I don't know about the KWMX article, but Northern Arizona Ethnic Arts Network is a copyright violation. Also, the group, while admirable in goal, is too new. « D Trebbien (talk) 20:52 2007 December 11 (UTC)
I saw the warning on the web page and removed the mission statement part but what does too new mean? It's a three year old organization. How old does it have to be? User:Craig1014
Thank you for removing the copied part. The only problem now is that the page does not assert significance of the group. Even though it's three years old, it is too new for it to have had a big impact.
I added {{hangon}} to the page. You should go to its talk page and write your comments. I don't decide if it gets deleted.
« D Trebbien (talk) 21:02 2007 December 11 (UTC)
No problems. Thanks for the info. I'll have to think about how I can write up something about the significance of the organization, though probably not today. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Craig1014 (talk • contribs) 21:08, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Sure. Don't forget to sign you comments with ~~~~. « D Trebbien (talk) 21:11 2007 December 11 (UTC)

[edit] Quadratic reciprocity

Regarding your self reverted [2]. Apart from the 'A', the Belgian city name supports Johann Peter Gustav Lejeune Dirichlet and I guess you best know who you are after. But he was born after Gauss' proof of quadratic reciprocity. Maybe that part of your recollection is about Adrien-Marie Legendre who conjectured quadratic reciprocity. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/QuadraticReciprocityTheorem.html says: "Legendre was the first to publish a proof, but it was fallacious." I haven't heard about a conflict between Legendre and Gauss. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:59, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi PrimeHunter, it's exciting researching mathematics history, isn't it!
I am glad that you mentioned Legendre because I did some more research and found out that I was wrongly associating his conflict with Gauss to Dirichlet. According to MacTutor's biography of Legendre, Gauss was extremely critical of Legendre's lack of rigor in his 1798 proof of quadratic reciprocity and Gauss did not mention in his famous 1801 proof that he was improving Legendre's work. Gauss also claimed the result as entirely his own, prompting Legendre to write: "This excessive impudence is unbelievable in a man who has sufficient personal merit not to have need of appropriating the discoveries of others."
« D Trebbien (talk) 03:13 2007 December 16 (UTC)
http://www.mat.itu.edu.tr/gungor/bioindex.pdf pp. 17-18 says the quote is about the discovery of the least squares method. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:01, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
I think that that is correct. Legendre's dispute with Gauss seems to have been about the discovery of least squares regression.
« D Trebbien (talk) 23:02 2007 December 17 (UTC)

[edit] response

By this i mean that on most of the pages of scheduled drugs (before i edited them) they only had the US drug schedule markings and any mention to drug schedules when to the american banned substances act. So i updated the canadian controlled drugs and substances act page and all the controlled drugs pages as you may have seen. I also updated lots of microprocessor architecture pages which it seems you have read :). Rada (talk) 06:27, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Okay. « D Trebbien (talk) 17:07 2007 December 28 (UTC)

[edit] PROD on Talk:Riemann-hilbert correspondence

Did you mean to place the PROD on Riemann-hilbert correspondence instead of Talk:Riemann-hilbert correspondence? In either case, WP:RFD should be the place to take the deletion request and not WP:PROD. If you meant to delete the redirect and not the talk-redirect, I can transfer this to RFD. If you meant to, in fact, delete the talk-redirect, this can be speedy deleted as housekeeping. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:28, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

My bad. I meant to request the deletion of the Riemann-hilbert correspondence redirect, not its talk page.
« D Trebbien (talk) 03:20 2008 January 1 (UTC)
OK - I'll toss it on over to RFD momentarily. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 03:25, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2008 January 1 --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 03:31, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you « D Trebbien (talk) 03:35 2008 January 1 (UTC)

[edit] French communes

I agree though in ten years the graphs will be out of date but I still think they are useful in reading population change and it saves having to add fiddly tables which I'm unwilling to do ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 20:51, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't speak Dutch but before every graph it looks as though it cites the statistics of INSEE which for me is a reliable source enough. I think population change is important for understanding other factors too -e.g a declining population can reflect a declining socio-economic propserity in the village. If it is referenced I don't think it is a problem. Best to think of what's better in the long term though. I thought I was doing a fairly good job setting them up ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 20:57, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

No its a set graph, although hands down it is a rather intriguing way of devising it - trust the Dutch to come up with that!! lol! I think its OK as it shows a lot about change in the last few decades and seems to be reliably constructed using a bot. Hopefully these will all become fairly detailed articles eventually ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 21:01, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

In thousands? Lol -how many people do you think there are in these villages!! What you see is what is -e.g 800 people etc. I'll try to add an INSEE reference next to the graph when I continue so the source of the data is clear ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 21:13, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps I could just directly reference the site here ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 21:15, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Arthur Spencer Roberts

Hi Sandpiper. Thank you for starting the Arthur Spencer Roberts article because it is turning into an interesting article. One thing, though, that you can do to improve its quality is to avoid introducing facts implicitly. Let me explain what I mean.

I, like most readers, do not have and have not read the book Chiaroscuro: The Life of Arthur Spencer-Roberts. Thus when I see the sentence "The family moved to Hastings during Roberts' youth on medical advice that a southern climate would improve his tuberculosis.", I immediately wonder if I missed the part about Roberts getting TB, a fact that was implicitly asserted in this sentence. Another example is the sentence starting with "While a new recruit at the start of World War II", which, after reading, leaves me thinking When did he join?, Why?, and Was he drafted or did he join voluntarily?.

Here are some other examples:

  • medical advice (Who gave this advice?)
  • In 1939 as a gunner (When did he become a gunner? Did he start as a gunner?)
  • while the army stayed in India (Why were they staying in India?)
  • where both his and his wife's father had served (Where did the article say that he married someone? [below] Where was the short introduction for Mavis' father, or, why was her father mentioned here?)
  • but he again took a teaching job (Did he temporarily forgo an art career for a teaching career?)
  • Privations of life in the wilderness and a desire for company (Was life on the Isle of Arran lonely?)
  • After returning from one such visit (Which visit? There was more than one?)

...

I know that many of these things will be worked out in the long run; this is, after all, a stub, but since you have the book, it would be easier for all editors if you incorporated as much of this information as possible.

« D Trebbien (talk) 04:48 2008 January 2 (UTC)

Hi Dtrebbien. I wrote the article the way I did to accurately quote the source. I don't know who gave the medical advice (it doesn't say). There was no part about him getting tuberculosis, only having it. It is a very eclectic book jumping about all over the place, seeking as much to get the feel of the guy as to arrange facts in order. For example, I was not entirely happy stating they lived in Glasgow as it is implied by his father working there rather than stated. I was told elsewhere he was in fact born in Ireland.
I don't know whether he started as a gunner. I would guess this is likely, but the book does not say (or it might, but not in that passage). It reports him refusing to join a newly enlisted mate marching up and down the sea front in Hastings, but it doesn't say if they volunteered or were called up. it mentions training in Wales but not how they got there, his superior shooting at a civilian car before being invited to the occupants wedding, and a squaddy electrocuting himself. I have refrained from presuming anything it doesn't exactly say.
I presume they stayed in India because it was british territory needing an army, but it might have been because the government wanted to slow down releasing soldiers back to civilian life. I cant know from this book. The fathers served in different regiments, but there is some more detail on this. Apparently they were on opposite sides of a river during the same campaign. I have no idea if they knew each other. The book does have a section talking about empathy for the various soldiers and the effect on him of visiting the somme battlefields and his decision therefore to paint a picture about it. I don't know how many he might have painted on this theme, or any other info about his volume of work and which pictures are most famous.
I started adding bits while reading along as the only practical way of reordering information. Yes, I know we need some more obvious normal bio details (the book doesn't say when he was born, for example), but they are at best mixed up. Some more precise dates, length of trips etc, may be ascertained by more careful reading. I didn't introduce the sectioning, someone else did that: I hadn't got to that stage yet and while splitting it chronologically might make sense, it is not entirely natural from this source, which hops backwards and forwards on topics. Similarly, while there is more detail on some points, as it is obviously missing on others it is difficult to initially assess the correct level of detail for particular sections.
It did have a description of the wedding, in Hastings, on a windy day, where all the ladies skirts were blown up over their heads. My difficulty is whether such an amusing story is worth repeating, or isn't very helpful in the face of more important shortages.
It never states exactly what he was teaching. Sounds as though it was several subjects, probably private schools, mentions his doing drawings to illustrate several subjects. His wife was also teaching, sometimes they were at the same place. As another example of the books difficulties it says a headmaster was pleased to employ them as a team in one sentence, then next sentence appears to go on about her working at a different school. Hard to sort out. Then again, this is his biography: it seems likely from having got to the end of it that she was happy to be working earning money while he stayed at home and painted. Ultimatley, she was probably right as he became known and could earn money from painting, they did OK and had fun. But how much to introduce what she was doing? Do we mention her refusing to give greta garbo tea on some greek millionaires yacht? Possibly yes, the millionaire seems to have been something between a good customer and an agent, and a friend. How about the odd person turning up naked? Someone already chopped out the sentence I put in about him being offered acting work: I though it relevant becasue although he never took it up, in the judgement of a professional director he must have had the necessary looks/charisma/whatever and this says something about him.
Doesn't say how many trips to the USA. yes, several, and they seems to have enjoyed staying in posh hotels and with millionaires. I was myself wondering how many over how long when mentioning their return to find their house falling over the cliff.
I got into this because I was looking for illustrations for another article, and Roberts did some drawings. Having discovered a bit about him it seemed likely he was a good enough artist that he ought to have an article. However, he is not long enough dead to have earnt a place in history and just too long dead to have got onto the internet for sourcing. On the whole, I don't think he was too good at marketing. Sandpiper (talk) 10:14, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi Sandpiper. Everything seems okay, then. If the book doesn't say something, then it can't appear on Wikipedia.
It might be fun to incorporate the part about how the couple enjoyed staying in posh hotels with millionaires, as it somewhat gives an overall impression of their actual personalities.
As for some of the other facts, like Mavis' refusal to serve greta garbo tea, or an odd person turning up naked, I think that you made the right decision to not include them. While funny, they are practically bits of trivia and if readers remain interested in Roberts, then they have an incentive to acquire the book.
Does the book cite sources? If so, maybe you could add the references to the article's Talk page.
« D Trebbien (talk) 16:36 2008 January 2 (UTC)

[edit] Heng Pov

I note that you feel the article on Heng Pov to be unbalanced. May I ask what you would suggest? DS (talk) 22:16, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Sure. Here's why I thought it was unbalanced:
I don't know very much about Heng Pov, but when I first read the article about him, it seemed to be somewhat slanted toward sympathy for Heng Pov. The article states that he was shot in the leg while on duty as a police officer, resulting in his leg being amputated, which, at this point, makes me feel sorry for the guy. The next sentence says that while he was out of the country for medical treatment, he was charged with committing a whole list of heinous crimes. This is so sudden of a transition (in the writing) that I wonder what actually happened; ie is Heng Pov innocent or is there really corruption in the government. The next sentence says that Heng Pov was seeking refugee status (This evokes sympathy somewhat, as many refugees really are trying to escape unfair persecution) and that he issued a statement accusing other government officials of corruption and involvement in murders. This seems to "clarify" the confusion caused by the previous sentence and leads the reader into thinking that Heng Pov is just an innocent fall-guy. The next sentence, in which it was stated that Heng Pov was convicted in absentia, clears up any doubt that he really was innocent, at least from my perspective as a United States citizen, because no one in the U S can be convicted like that. Then I read that Finland tried to become involved, but I don't really know why, and as Finland is, in my view, a "good country", it seems that Heng Pov is absolutely innocent. However, the next sentence states that he was deported and sent back to Cambodia where he was sentenced with several life sentences. This leads me to think that it is a giant cover-up. And, if I wanted to read more, the external links section is Heng Pov's statement and website, and two other pro-Heng Pov documents.
It seems that it would be extremely difficult to maintain a neutral point of view here, but I think that it would help to include more information about the Cambodian authorities' perspective on the subject. Additionally, here are some questions that should be addressed:
  • Whom is he accused of murdering? Why?
  • Why was he charged with corruption?
  • Why did Finland become involved?
  • How much counterfeit currency is he accused of possessing? Also, which illegal weapons?
  • What was Hok Lundy's response to Heng Pov's statement?
...
Also, maybe the external links/references section can have more sources that aren't pro-Heng Pov.
« D Trebbien (talk) 03:05 2008 January 3 (UTC)
In no particular order: it's a bit difficult to find non-pro-HP sites. $US 30,000. He applied to a whole bunch of countries for refugee status; they all rejected him except Finland. He's accused of murdering (among others) a judge, in 2002. He was charged with corruption because... well, apparently he's made several very powerful enemies; whether he himself is corrupt, I'm not sure. Also, I've been trying to figure out the timeline myself; it's a bit difficult to follow. DS (talk) 03:21, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
I understand. It's difficult to follow the events for any hot topic. Also, I am sure that it is more difficult researching this subject because of the language barrier.
In the meantime, I think that it might be good to leave the tag on the page as an invitation to others to contribute what they know about Heng Pov.
« D Trebbien (talk) 03:38 2008 January 3 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion of Proceedings of the Steklov Institute of Mathematics

A tag has been placed on Proceedings of the Steklov Institute of Mathematics requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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[edit] Notability of Michael LaHood, Jr.

A tag has been placed on Michael LaHood, Jr. requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article appears to be about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable. If this is the first page that you have created, then you should read the guide to writing your first article.

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[edit] February 2008

Please remember to mark your edits as minor if (and only if) they genuinely are minor edits (see Help:Minor edit). Marking a major change as a minor one is considered poor etiquette. The rule of thumb is that only an edit that consists solely of spelling corrections, formatting changes, or rearranging of text without modifying content should be flagged as a 'minor edit.' Thank you. Jfire (talk) 21:02, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Duly noted. Sorry for any confusion. « D. Trebbien (talk) 21:11 2008 February 3 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks..

for giving me my first barnstar! :D kawaputratorque 10:13, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Also thanks. although, the article itself was not my idea. Oldag07 (talk) 12:35, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome! And it doesn't matter that you didn't start the article. I looked at your contributions and you seem to be a solid contributor. « D. Trebbien (talk) 15:31 2008 February 4 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you re: Mikhail Khorobrit

Thank you I was working on the article when the Speedy deletion thing popped up and therefore I removed it. Thanks for your super-speedy remark even before I had time to do much work on the article.--Mcpaul1998 (talk) 01:51, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Nonsense tag

So I just use {{db-nonsense}} if i want to identify an article as nonsense? --Thebluesharpdude (talk) 02:21, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Alright thanks. --Thebluesharpdude (talk) 02:26, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Roger that. --Thebluesharpdude (talk) 02:35, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ma'agan Michael

No worries. I'm gradually going through all the kibbutz articles adding infoboxes, categories etc. пﮟოьεԻ 57 09:02, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

For the spelling/grammar edits. Zenasprime (talk) 04:16, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Organic farming issues

I'm not following the details, I only got into this because I removed what I saw as vandalism, and I think I agree with you're editing in general - though like I said I'm not tracking the details; but it looks like you fixed spelling errors in P3rkypat's talk page comments here. Probably not a good idea to tinker with his talk page comments, particularly on his own user talk page and especially while you're in the middle of a dispute. Just let errors be to avoid any concern over refactoring. Cheers.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 04:22, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip. « D. Trebbien (talk) 02:08 2008 March 18 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

...for this. Made my day! Renee (talk) 19:09, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Zbl and JFM templates

Thank you for creating these much needed templates! I've posted a note advertising them at the Math Project page, since they should be used whenever Zbl or JFM info appears in the bibliographical references, similarly to MathSciNet. Would you be able to create a template for Lecture Notes in Mathematics as well? It should link to the full text of a specific volume (full text of all LNMs is accessible through SpringerLink) and have fields for the author, title, conference proceedings information (if applicable), etc? That would be very helpful. Arcfrk (talk) 03:34, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi Arcfrk, I am glad that you like {{Zbl}} and {{JFM}}.
As far as Lecture Notes in Mathematics, unfortunately full text is not available to most people. (Are you at a university?) For example, when I visit the link which you provided, I do not see the little green squares next to any of the titles.
All is not lost, though. Every book has a digital object identifier (DOI) as well as every chapter of every book in the LNM series. For example, Representation Theory and Complex Analysis has DOI 10.1007/978-3-540-76892-0 and the chapter "Unitary Representations and Complex Analysis" within that book has DOI 10.1007/978-3-540-76892-0_5 .
If you look at {{cite book}}, you will see both chapter= and doi= fields. Here is an example:
Vogan, Jr., David A. (2008). "Unitary Representations and Complex Analysis", Representation Theory and Complex Analysis, Lecture Notes in Mathematics 1931. DOI:10.1007/978-3-540-76892-0_5. ISBN 9783540768913. 
which is rendered with:
{{cite book| last=Vogan, Jr. | first=David A. | year=2008 | chapter=Unitary Representations and Complex Analysis | title=Representation Theory and Complex Analysis | series=Lecture Notes in Mathematics | volume=1931 | isbn=9783540768913 | doi=10.1007/978-3-540-76892-0_5}}
Cheers. « D. Trebbien (talk) 05:03 2008 March 24 (UTC)

But even if it's not available for free to everyone, since we provide a reference anyway, wouldn't it make sense to link to the source? At the moment, I am doing it manually (only occasionally, given how labor-intensive this is), and yes, I've used doi for this purpose. However, a template-based solution, with

input: LNM volume number, some bibliographical information in human language;
output: a link to the source, which frequently contains alphanumerical gibberish

seems much better. Not only will it remove the aforementioned labor-intensive component, but also the links will be created in a uniform way (e.g. you can decide that they all refer to the last freely available page that contains the abstract and links directly to the text). Do you think that you can implement it? Arcfrk (talk) 05:18, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi Arcfrk, may I have an example of what you mean? « D. Trebbien (talk) 01:57 2008 March 25 (UTC)

[edit] Wolfberry polysaccharides

I respect your point, D, but I made an exception for this particular nutrient and how it was discussed on the wolfberry page where it's been for more than a year. The proponents of special polysaccharide roles from wolfberry have no published literature consumers could go to for understanding their claims, however derived. They just state it out of the blue, and expect gullible people to believe it. I wanted to challenge that and rather state facts about polysaccharides, so felt it justified to make my point visible. I am willing -- with your help -- to rewrite that section to avoid sounding obstinate.

We write an article about wolfberry or any topic on Wikipedia to be factual and provide a scientifically-founded concept about a topic for the encyclopedia. There is a camp in the wolfberry products industry who only want to make money, through applying any means at any cost to deceive consumers. My position is to debate and expose their misinformation with actual science and plain truths.--Paul144 (talk) 04:30, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Red Dog DYK

Thanks! I was going to wait 24 hours or so to see that it survived that long before adding it, but I'm glad it apparently got through patrolling *and* you found it worthy of DYK nomination. This is my first non-self nom. Have a good night :) TRAVELLINGCARIMy storyTell me yours 02:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh and quick question on this article. Thanks for the clean-up, but I'm curious as to why you commented out the section about the 4WD Club? If you don't want to include it, why not just remove it? I don't care either way, I've just never seen it done via a comment out rather than removal. Thanks! TRAVELLINGCARIMy storyTell me yours 04:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't know what a 4WD drive club is, and after another user became irritated with me after trying to speedy delete West London Sharks, I am more cautious about removing material that seems to me to be un-important or non-notable. I might be the only one. « D. Trebbien (talk) 04:37 2008 April 7 (UTC)
Yikes, that's rather rude. I promise, I don't bite. I assume, absent obvious evidence to the contrary that people add and remove content for good reasons. I can't really explain a 4WD club clearly because I'm not a car person. 4WDs there are SVU type vehicles and they meet to travel to certain areas that are inaccessible by regular car. Clubs are those who meet regularly to planned destinations -- if that makes sense. I really wish there were a wiki article to link you to. Google is verbose but not very explanatory. If you don't think it's worth a mention, feel free to remove. Going off line now but am happy to discuss further. Thanks again for the cleanup, wiki needs a better proof reader and I need better grammar TRAVELLINGCARIMy storyTell me yours 04:42, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Mundhum

Hello - I have sought to address your concern, by replacing the blog links by the full publication information of the "History and Culture of the Kirati People" (alas no specific pages though). I have also added fresh book sources. Please examine my changes and let me know if a problem persists. Vishnava (talk) 02:39, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Vishnava (talk) 13:47, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

Updated DYK query On 11 April 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Red Dog (Karratha), which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

- DaughterofSun (talk) 09:56, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Awesome! « D. Trebbien (talk) 03:04 2008 April 12 (UTC)

[edit] Camling phonology table

Hi - could you please have a look at the phonology table, which is referenced from the Rosetta Project (link provided)? I think I've messed up the formatting. Vishnava (talk) 15:01, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

It appears that Circeus has made some changes to Camling language to try to fix the table. Is the way it looks now the way you would like it to appear?
« D. Trebbien (talk) 03:02 2008 April 12 (UTC)
Yes, thank you and to Circeus too. Vishnava (talk) 14:46, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Haraprasad Shastri

Hi! Thanks for the note. The computer I am using right now is not capable of using Bengali font :( I shall add the name in Bengali font soon. Thanks a lot. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 17:07, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

First of all, thanks for all your inputs for Haraprasad Shastri. Class is a grade. First clsss was/is the highest grade a student could/ can acquire. In Sanskrit College, those who secured a first class in Sanskrit post graduate examinarions were endowed with the title of Shastri and they generally opted to use that title. I think, altough I am not sure, the same system is still there. Regards - P.K.Niyogi (talk) 05:29, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Cambodian names

I note that you recently inverted the defaultsort that Gene Nygaard put on the Heng Pov article. The thing is... I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think that's how Cambodian nomenclature works. For instance, Heng Pov's political enemy Hok Lundy has a daughter named "Hok Chindavy"; doesn't this imply that the family name precedes the personal name, and thus that it should be sorted as "Heng, Pov" instead of "Pov, Heng"? DS (talk) 14:33, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm. That's interesting.
It does appear to be correct that in Cambodian, "last names" come first. (I was looking at two, other articles about Cambodians, Ieng Sary and Lon Nol, as well as a few others.)
Another natural question is whether, when referring to a person by their Cambodian name in shorthand, the first name is to be used. For example, on Ieng Sary, there is a sentence (Sary and Saloth Sar studied at Phnom Penh's Lycée Sisowath where their future wives, the sisters Khieu Thirith and Khieu Ponnary also studied.) where perhaps "Sary" should be "Ieng".
« D. Trebbien (talk) 02:08 2008 April 16 (UTC)
In fact, user:Kiensvay has confirmed that, in Cambodian names, the family name precedes the personal name. As for your other question - I don't really know; you'd have to ask him. DS (talk) 23:05, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Costières de Nîmes

Thanks for your comments, it's nice to know that there is more than bots following what we are doing. Costières de Nîmes was most certainly included in the jurisdiction of Inter Rhône, the committee which represents the entire viticulture and commerce of the CDR and the Rhône valley, and federates all activities for the promotion, economy, and technology of the region. As I remember, the Inter Rhône was created in the mid 1990s while I was living near Châteauneuf-du-Pape for 12 years, as a solution to the chaos of the many AOC syndicates that existed more in name than in actively promoting their wines. Costières vinyards are concentrated in the area around Rémoulins and Uzès where the whole CDR thing started in 1650. How the decision to include Costières came about, I have no idea, I was no longer as close to the sources as I used to be.but I would assume that as that part of the Gard has few wineries of renown and no other central governing body, that it was a convenient move. Costières is the last outpost for wines that retain the characteristics of CDR. Although, like the Lirac, it is a slightly lighter red with just a tad more tendency to fruit than the undergrowth, leather, animal and prune that typifies the left bank CDRs, the Costièrs has rather harder tanins and marks the transition to the wines of the Langedoc. If you feel that more information is appropriate, please feel free to voice your opinion, but I may not have the time to do this. At the momentI am in the process of filling a lot of gaps and stubs on CDR, and creating new ones to bridge the gaps which I hope others will jump in and expand. If I don't include all these details in the CDR article, it is because I feel that there is enough info out there on wine and it is not the destiny of Wikipedia to become a wine guide. I think that just more than a stub is probably all that is required. As far as Wikipedia is concerned, I assume the information is correct. I have added the link to the page. Kudpung (talk) 17:41, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] re:Tomas

You may be right, the message wasn't signed and I assumed it was from you. I'ill repost it on his talk page. Thanks. Kudpung (talk) 04:46, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

No worries. « D. Trebbien (talk) 04:55 2008 April 19 (UTC)

[edit] Mecca Time AfD

Hi Dtrebbien - I request you to have a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mecca Time - I had created this article early today thinking it was significant, but later I found that only a BBC report and a Gulf Times article are the sources of this information - all other sources have picked the BBC article, nothing else. The participants in this conference in question are virtually unknown, and I couldn't find any background information on this idea or controversy. I had a discussion with Erechtheus, who had first raised the point, and Johnbod, whose feedback I had requested. Yet, I feel the best thing to do is to get wider community opinion, and your input will be appreciated. Thanks, Vishnava (talk) 14:28, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Vishnava. I have been traveling recently and have just read your message, Mecca Time, and its AfD.
I am using a public computer now which is blocked from editing nearly anything other than my talk page because the computer's IP address, 24.227.237.190, was used by User:Scibaby, or something, I don't know. Anyway, I'll write my response here and copy it to the AfD later (or you could).
Merge with Prime Meridian (per User:Julesn84) or GMT, perhaps under a "Controversy" section, but no more than a sentence or two stating that the choice of timezone 0 is arbitrary, mentioning Mecca Time as an example of contest.
I do not think that notability is an issue here because there were two, well-respected news sources that wrote about this. Instead, I think the issue here is "one-time event" (I can't find the link in WP: to the wording right now), and here is my thinking: if Mecca Time is a term that was conceived (and only used) during this conference of Muslim scholars, then there would be no possibility of expanding the article; its content is currently locked with the conference. Therefore, I suggest waiting until the term becomes more widely used to have a separate article about the subject.
(As a sidenote, I would be interested to know whether there is more coverage in Arabic, which I cannot read, than English.) « D. Trebbien (talk) 15:00 2008 April 25 (UTC)

[edit] Raghavanka

I have played down the adjectives now and removed the tag. Thanks.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 12:33, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] many thanks!

Wow - its quite special for me! I truly appreciate this and the help/advice you've given me over this past month. Once I started, I got addicted to DYK-writing, and its quite pleasing to see my work get on the main-page. I hope to diversify soon, write an FA. Thanks again! Vishnava (talk) 14:12, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CSS changes

{{helpme}}

Recently I have seen a few changes to the appearance of the "article difference" pages, including dotted borders around changes (reverted) and today, a slightly darker background color.

I like the new appearance because it was difficult to determine where changes were made if, for example, the only difference was an extra space.

Where do I comment on this change? « D. Trebbien (talk) 14:16 2008 May 2 (UTC)

There were several discussions, none of which I can find at present. However, you can restore the dotted borders (or something similar) using the code here. If that's not what you want, feel free to post another {{helpme}} here, or try the village pump. Algebraist 15:10, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. I forgot about monobook.css and promptly added my preferred customizations. « D. Trebbien (talk) 22:50 2008 May 2 (UTC)

[edit] Request re Klaipėda Geothermal Demonstration Plant

Hello D - could you maybe take another look at this? Novickas (talk) 15:45, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Sure. Is there anything in particular to look for? « D. Trebbien (talk) 00:07 2008 May 5 (UTC)
Nothing in particular - just a lookover, which you have done, thanks. Novickas (talk) 01:29, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Omid Tahvili

Thanks for your sharp eyes. Please check the article if it is okay now. --BorgQueen (talk) 01:05, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kesiraja

yes, it is true that the only work of KEsiraja which is available is his grammar, Shabdamanidarpana. The other five works are considered extinct now, which is why he is primarily known as a grammarian, though in reality he was a lot more.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 01:51, 6 May 2008 (UTC)